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(Message started by: Travis1980 on Jan 21^st, 2008, 10:54pm)

Title: Doc recommends neck injection
Post by Travis1980 on Jan 21^st, 2008, 10:54pm

Hey guys,

I saw my neurologist today and she wants me to come in next week and get two injections in my neck and temple that are a mixture of things including Lidocaine and Pitcher plant extract. has anyone ever heard of this? She said that this has broken cycles in some of her patients.

Trav

Title: Re: Doc recommends neck injection
Post by Gator on Jan 22^nd, 2008, 4:32am

Sounds like nerve blocks which work for some and not for others. Usually, it is done with a mixture of lidocaine and a steroid such as dexamethasone. I haven't heard of using Pitcher Plant extract before, although in reading about the pitcher plant, it would appear that the doc would be using the extract for anti-inflammatory purposes.

What the hell, right? Give it a shot (no pun intended) and see how it works. Please report your experiences with it for others to see.

Title: Re: Doc recommends neck injection
Post by Travis1980 on Jan 22^nd, 2008, 7:20am

I'll let you know how it goes.

Title: Re: Doc recommends neck injection
Post by LeLimey on Jan 22^nd, 2008, 7:36am

Good luck Travis!

Title: Re: Doc recommends neck injection
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Jan 22^nd, 2008, 7:46am

Good luck mate.
Cheers
Barry

Title: Re: Doc recommends neck injection
Post by vitaliy.se on Jan 23^rd, 2008, 1:54pm

Hello Travis,

I tried neck injections (Lidocine and Triamcinolone)twice
first time I thought it help me.
My CH stopped in a week. At that time I didn't know it was CH (it was the usual end of cluster, in my case it lasts about 3-4 weeks).
Next time I tried it when my next cluster started and it didn't help at all.

Steroid are even more dangerous for health than verapamil and sumatriptan all together.

I DO NOT recommend it.

PS Have you ever seen a singe article in the internet that says that Pitcher plant helps in case of CH?

Regards,
Vitaliy S

Title: Re: Doc recommends neck injection
Post by chewy on Jan 23^rd, 2008, 2:01pm

on 01/23/08 at 13:54:26, vitaliy.se wrote:

Steroid are even more dangerous for health than verapamil and sumatriptan all together.

Not nessesarily true. Depends on how the steroids are administered.

I use a predisone taper evey cycle and it has saved me from prolonged agony many many times.

Title: Re: Doc recommends neck injection
Post by monty on Jan 23^rd, 2008, 4:01pm

Haven't heard about pitcher plant extract either, but did come across this:

>>
Curr Pain Headache Rep. 2004 Dec;8(6):427-34.
Biologic poisons for pain.

... Sarapin, derived from carnivorous pitcher plants, has been injected for regional analgesia in human and veterinary medicine, but efficacy is controversial. ...

PMID: 15509455
>>

Looking at some of the other research, it doesn't seem that adding Serapin makes a nerve block any more effective, but it doesn't seem to hurt, either.

Title: Re: Doc recommends neck injection
Post by thebbz on Jan 23^rd, 2008, 8:56pm

Sounds like another torture therapy from the marvelous world of science.
Good luck
thebb

Title: Re: Doc recommends neck injection
Post by vitaliy.se on Jan 24^th, 2008, 4:46pm

on 01/23/08 at 14:01:53, chewy wrote:

Not nessesarily true. Depends on how the steroids are administered.

I use a predisone taper evey cycle and it has saved me from prolonged agony many many times.

I'm not telling steroids will kill you at once. But in general they cause more harm then O2, verapamil and sumartiptans all together(unless you have heart problems).

Regards,
Vitaliy S

Title: Re: Doc recommends neck injection
Post by clavers on Jan 25^th, 2008, 11:21am

I have had three or four of these neck injections. They stopped my attacks for hours.