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(Message started by: Philip on Aug 22^nd, 2007, 6:29pm)

Title: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Philip on Aug 22^nd, 2007, 6:29pm

Hi All,

first of all, support for those who dance with the "beast"

I myself for 11 years now, some of them epis, some of them chronical, bout 50/50.....

I ve tried, verapamil, deseril, prednisone, O2, imitrex, etc etc etc etc...and am just comming of Lithium......

Ever since the beginning of my CH years, i've always felt a sore, hard, painfull spot in my neck, pushing on to this spot, gave the same pain , or even triggered an attack.

Since 14 years I'm a physicalmassage therapist, and I've discovered 2 years ago MyofascialTriggerPoint therapy. A study based on the works of Dr Travell, & Dr. Simmons. I've discovered in their book, that the spot in my neck directly relates to my CH pain.
now 2 years further, and still treating this spot regulary, I've had almost no attacks .....the ones I did had, where mild, and dissappeared with a little O2.

Are there more of you, who tried this therapy, or learned it themself ( it is selftreatment)
and or are there people with similar neck, and or shoulder, pain spots like I have?

Maybe this can help .....if only even one ( becides me..)

For all, stay strong, it will pass!!!!!!!!!!!
and what doesn't kill you, will only make you stronger ;)

Regards, Philip
(NL)

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Jonny on Aug 22^nd, 2007, 7:36pm

Bye bye, John! :-*

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Aug 22^nd, 2007, 7:39pm

Trichlorethylrne plants lend themselves to automatic operation.
The general principle is that the work is carried out on a conveyor.

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by LeLimey on Aug 22^nd, 2007, 7:47pm

Just been looking at a price list from a local beauty salon - £11 for a leg wax - is this a good price?

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Philip on Aug 22^nd, 2007, 7:48pm

can't seem to understand the messages sent back????

legwax? and the other???

what has this to do with triggerpointtherapy??

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by JenniferD on Aug 22^nd, 2007, 8:17pm

I agree, but did you know that the perfectly arched crossed pane window is everywhere?

It is among the blue ribbon winners at wapello county fair crafts barn built out of 16 popsicle sticks.

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Jimi on Aug 22^nd, 2007, 9:39pm

If a cow and a calf ate a pumkin and a half in a day and a half, how many did they eat in seven days?

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Lenny on Aug 22^nd, 2007, 9:41pm

the website del.icio.us ( pronounced as "delicious") is a social bookmarking web service for storing,sharing and caring...That 's so amazing,dont you think...BTW,i do agree that grilled onions make it...

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by luveemom on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 1:51pm

UMMMM, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit........

okay...done.

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Thimk on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 2:47pm

Trigger points seem to play a role in migraine - maybe they do for clusters, maybe not. Worth a try since it is free - anyone can find the tender spots and deactivate them if they are willing to learn that massage technique.

Quote:

Eur J Neurol. 2006 Mar;13(3):244-9.

Trigger point evaluation in migraine patients: an indication of peripheral sensitization linked to migraine predisposition?
Calandre EP, Hidalgo J, García-Leiva JM, Rico-Villademoros F.

Instituto de Neurociencias, Universidad de Granada, Granada, Spain. epita@ugr.es

Although migraine is a neurovascular disorder, both scalp tenderness and referred pain have been observed in migraine patients. The present study was carried out to investigate the presence of trigger points eliciting referred pain in 98 migraine patients and in 32 healthy subjects. Trigger points were found in 92 (93.9%) migraineurs and in nine (29%) controls (P < 0.0001). The number of individual migraine trigger points varied from zero to 14 (modal number: 4), and was found to be related to both the frequency of migraine attacks (P < 0.0001), and the duration of the disease (P = 0.017). About 74% of the total detected trigger points were found in temporal and/or suboccipital areas; other locations were mainly found in patients showing more than four trigger points. Trigger point palpation provoked a migraine attack in 30 (30.6%) patients. Pericraneal allodynia was found in 15 (15.3%) patients. These data indicate that nociceptive peripheral sensitization is a usual finding in migraine, and that central sensitization can develop in patients with frequent attacks and long-lasting disease. Trigger points' detection in migraine patients could be useful when applying therapies like acupuncture, needling or botulinum toxin injections directed to reduce peripheral sensitization.

Interesting to see that in migraine, massaging the trigger points could actually bring on a migraine. But maybe in combination with other treatments, the short term increase could be blocked and lead to a long term reduction in hits.

No evidence yet, but I am betting that people with low magnesium levels are more likely to develop trigger points - the muscles knot up easier and develop tenderness/sterile inflammation. This can refer pain elsewhere, maybe activate the trigeminal nerve.

Got TMJ/jaw problems? You probably have trigger points, and massage might help. Got neck problems? Same thing. Seems that any inflammation around the head can make things worse for some of us - sinuses, colds or flu, dental stuff, etc.

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Rosybabe on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 3:01pm

A woman set fire to her ex-husband's penis as he sat naked watching television and drinking vodka, Moscow police said Wednesday.

Asked if the man would make a full recovery, a police spokeswoman said it was "difficult to predict."

The attack climaxed three years of acrimonious enforced co-habitation. The couple divorced three years ago but continued to share a small flat, something common in Russia where property costs are very high.

"It was monstrously painful," the wounded ex-husband told Tvoi Den newspaper. "I was burning like a torch. I don't know what I did to deserve this."

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by LeLimey on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 3:11pm

As everyone here knows I've had dangerously low magnesium levels but no trigger points which leads me to believe I AM the king of wishful thinking! ::) Mind you, a total of 300 tons of bombs were dropped on Britain during the First World War causing some 5,000 casualties, a third of which were fatalities. Some form of early warning system was badly needed, especially to counter the night raids.

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by nani on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 3:15pm

For readers who have not yet caught up with Trapped in the Closet, R. Kelly's 23 "chapter" R&B opus, here's a brief synopsis. Sylvester (R. Kelly) wakes up in the bed of a strange woman (Cathy) whom he picked up the previous evening in a nightclub. He's forced to hide in the bedroom closet when Cathy hears her husband, Rufus, coming up the stairs. Rufus enters and begins making love to Cathy, but Sylvester's cell phone rings before he can put it on vibrate, and he is discovered. Sylvester takes out his gun. A heated argument ensues. Rufus reveals that he has been having an affair with a man, Chuck. Incidentally, Rufus is a pastor. Chuck arrives at the house. More bickering, more threats of violence. Sylvester fires his gun in the air and then phones his wife, Gwendolyn. A man picks up the phone. Is Gwendolyn having an affair?

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by seasonalboomer on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 3:23pm

It wasn't just that the ink was out of registration, the degree of variance led one to believe that images of Mary were appearing in recurring tiles across the entire page of the leaflet. And strangely, when folded, the mosaic then became Jesus (not baby Jesus, or teenage Jesus, but wise, garden of Gethsemane Jesus).

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by cbad07 on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 3:24pm

If a man speaks in the woods and there are no women around is he still wrong?

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by nani on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 3:27pm

on 08/23/07 at 15:24:48, cbad07 wrote:

If a man speaks in the woods and there are no women around is he still wrong?

Yes! ;)

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by luveemom on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 3:39pm

Cbad,
I'm with Nani.....YES!!! ;;D

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Linda_Howell on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 3:42pm

All was quiet along the Potomac in the Autumn of 1861. After Bull Run, the confederate command had felt that the next move in Virginia was pretty much up to the Yankees.

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by aubmari on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 3:44pm

[smiley=crackup.gif] TFF

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Jonny on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 3:57pm

Southeast Arizona is one of the state's most beautiful areas. Driving from Willcox to Apache Pass is an excellent way to see some of it. From the start, you'll see what the area is known for: mountains pushing up from grasslands, agave leaning on the hillsides. Agave was an important part of the diet of Apaches, who traveled through here often, so often that they eventually clashed with U.S. troops at a pass between the Dos Cabezas and Chiricahua mountains. The government built a fort here, the remains of which are preserved at Fort Bowie National Historic Site. You can make the trip in just about any kind of vehicle, although the last 10 miles or so are on a graded gravel road.

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by LeLimey on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 4:18pm

Is willcox where everyone caught smallcox?

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Redd on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 4:31pm

Radish Guy and his evil henchmen "Spinacha" and "Broccolio" were growing wild and taking over every inch of fertile ground.
They were trying to persuade all the good vegetables to come over to the Shady Side of the garden where they would grow stronger and more vile tasting!
It was a sad time.
The good veggies were very afraid, and they looked to their leader "Garden Man" for help and guidance.

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by tanner on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 4:37pm

SPUCATUM TAURI

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by luveemom on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 4:40pm

According to studies, an average roll of toilet paper lasts five days in the bathroom

In a survey conducted in 2000 by Kimberly-Clark, it was found that men prefer to fold their toilet paper, and women like to wad it.

Most toilets flush in E flat.

On a ship a toilet is called a head.

On average, the Pentagon uses 666 rolls of toilet paper in one day.

The American Airlines Sports Center, in Dallas, has the most toilets per capita than any other sports and entertainment venue in the USA.

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 7:12pm

I had written him a letter which I had, for want of better
Knowledge, sent to where I met him down the Lachlan, years ago,
He was shearing when I knew him, so I sent the letter to him,
Just `on spec', addressed as follows, `Clancy, of The Overflow'.

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by artonio7 on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 7:19pm

In 1986, the Gold Bond Ice Cream Company in Green Bay, Wis., purchased the U.S. operations of Popsicle Industries. Three years later, Gold Bond was purchased by Unilever, and in 1993 the name was changed to the Good Humor-Breyers® Ice Cream Company. Today, Popsicle® is the No. 1 kids’ novelty brand.

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Aug 23^rd, 2007, 8:07pm

on 08/23/07 at 16:18:51, LeLimey wrote:

Is willcox where everyone caught smallcox?

http://bestsmileys.com/lol/4.gif

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Wayne on Aug 24^th, 2007, 3:10am

In cooking, a syrup (from Arabic sharab, beverage, via Latin siropus) is a thick, viscous liquid, containing a large amount of dissolved sugars, but showing little tendency to deposit crystals. The viscosity arises from the multiple hydrogen bonds between the dissolved sugar, which has many hydroxyl (OH) groups, and the water.

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Brewcrew on Aug 24^th, 2007, 8:34am

After he left the Graham Bond Organisation, Jack Bruce then joined the John Mayall Bluesbreakers group, which featured Eric Clapton, but later had his first commercial success with Manfred Mann in 1966. In July 1966 he moved on to his most famous role as bass player, main songwriter and lead vocalist with Ginger Baker and Eric Clapton in the power trio Cream, considered the first supergroup. While with Cream, Bruce changed his electric bass for a Gibson EB-3. He wrote most of Cream's original material, with lyricist Pete Brown, including, "Sunshine of Your Love", which they co-wrote with Clapton, "White Room", "Politician", and "I Feel Free". Bruce also wrote a number of compositions by himself, including "N.S.U." and "We're Going Wrong".

By 1968, Cream were successful; they grossed more than the next top six live acts of the day added together (including Jimi Hendrix and The Doors). They topped album charts all over the world, and received the first platinum discs for record sales, but the old enmity of Bruce and Baker resurfaced in 1968, and after a final tour, Cream broke up.

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Big_OUCH on Aug 24^th, 2007, 8:48am

on 08/23/07 at 16:18:51, LeLimey wrote:

Is willcox where everyone caught smallcox?

Smallcox, otherwise known as Ali's Disease, is a rare genital disorder which causes uncontrollable, hysterical laughter among women. There is no cure except for the affected woman to view someone with Biggcox, an equally rare disorder, though many men claim to have it. Bill Cox is a guy that I went to high school with.

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by luveemom on Aug 24^th, 2007, 8:52am

LMAO [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Triggerpointtherapy
Post by Lenny on Aug 24^th, 2007, 8:54am

on 08/24/07 at 08:48:37, Big_OUCH wrote:

Now that was funny [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]