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(Message started by: billyjoe on Jul 24^th, 2007, 5:07pm)

Title: Ambrotose is helping
Post by billyjoe on Jul 24^th, 2007, 5:07pm

I thought I'd share with you all my current experiment with Ambrotose which is a glyconutrient.

I starting taking Ambrotose 3 days ago and the last 2 nights, I made it till 4am with a minor 1kip that I didn't have to abort and felt good all day. This is the first time I have had it through the night in 4 months!

I am currently using 480mg of verapamil, and am doing well except for the 1 night time CH that I usually use 3mg of trex. I hope to ramp up the Ambrotose and ramp down the Verapamil, to avoid the side affects. The only downside, so far, is the cost!

-Billy

Title: Re: Ambrotose is helping
Post by godsjoy777 on Jul 27^th, 2007, 4:00pm

Awesome...

I am glad it is working for someone else....The cost of all the pharmacy meds is extremely high when you add them all up....and all the bad side effects.....yuck!

Hope you continue to see the awesome Good side effects of Ambrotose....Becides the Clusters I didn't know how bad I felt until I started feeling good....AND it broke my cycle!

Blessings!
Karen

Title: Re: Ambrotose is helping
Post by MR_FLOOR on Jul 27^th, 2007, 7:16pm

Way to go Billy. ;;D

Dave

Title: Re: Ambrotose is helping
Post by thebbz on Jul 27^th, 2007, 7:48pm

http://www.raysahelian.com/glyconutrients.html

http://www.glyconutrientsreference.com/mannatech/scam.html
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/mannatech.htm

[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]
For general health maybe....maybe.
For CH... [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]
Not for me, I am glad your feeling better
thebb

Title: Re: Ambrotose is helping
Post by billyjoe on Jul 28^th, 2007, 9:15am

Here's an update after 5 days.
I am Trex free!!!! Haven't had a shot in 5 days and I've cut back on the Verapamil by 25%. I'm making it through the night and no shadows.
I also have found comparable products at half the cost of Ambrotose and no MLM sh@#t.

Since I need to taper up on the glconutrients and taper down on the Verapamil, it will be a while to see how far I can take this.

I don't think this is buster solution, but it may be a natural preventative with no side affects. That's what I hope anyways.

At the least, this is helping me to detox, while I wait for the RC seeds. I want to bust and not prevent after 4 months!

Your mileage may vary.

-Bill

Title: Re: Ambrotose is helping
Post by zapparulz on Jul 28^th, 2007, 11:47am

can someone tell me the best place to get the seeds?

Title: Re: Ambrotose is helping
Post by thebbz on Jul 28^th, 2007, 12:41pm

Billyjoe,
I am reading that you have been invovled with the current episode for 4 months? If that is true, is it not possible that the episode had just run its course and your contributing that to the glyco nutrients?
Just a thought but I really dont believe that they have just beat the demon.
thebb

[quote][but it may be a natural preventative with no side affects. /quote]
This is really a stretch. IMHO

Title: Re: Ambrotose is helping
Post by godsjoy777 on Jul 29^th, 2007, 8:38am

First off Billy isn't the only one getting relief from using the Ambertose...

There is good science to back up the Ambertose....The product only gives YOUR OWN BODY the ability to heal itself.....and who cares if someone else is able to make some profit besides the Drs and the HUGE Pharma companies?....Don't you get paid for your work? It seems nobody cares that BIG PHARMA and the Drs that get the $$$incentives for prescribing poison are making big bucks off of our sicknesses and their products only add to more problems...

For me....I started on the Ambertose on the 3rd week of my cycle....deffinately well into but nowhere near the end of a cycle for me....Mine have gone from 3 months all the way to nine months ( thanks to the supposed prevents the Drs had me on....So I know it was the Ambertose that intervened....I just had to ramp up on the amount as the cycle went on....I had small breakthrough clusters....BUT...this was the easiest cycle I have ever been in....and I have to believe it was with the help on the Ambertose and natural suppliments along with it....

Title: Re: Ambrotose is helping
Post by thebbz on Jul 29^th, 2007, 12:37pm

Dont be so defensive...I simply posed a question. The information I am finding,,,and I am not done, is preliminary. I am a big advocate of whatever works.
I still think it's crap though. I cant have my opinion ?[smiley=laugh.gif] You stated yours and I dont care, only that all the information is presented, including the AMWAY method of distribution.
Glad you think it helped you.
thebb

Title: Re: Ambrotose is helping
Post by kcopelin on Jul 29^th, 2007, 1:45pm

Most large pharmaceutical companies fund research on their products, or new uses for old products. Mannatech does the same.
Let us reason together on this. Some chemists or researchers, paid by pharmaceutical companies to study their product and arrive at positive conclusions about the benefits, are willing to do so regardless of the true outcomes.
In my humble opinion, this is ethically despicable. It is intellectually inexcusable. It is greed. It is also very common.
Whether Ambrotose, Mannatech, or their ilk fall into this category seems likely. Should there be double-blind, scientific research that supports this, and is independent of the manufacturer, AND that research substantiates the claims, THEN I will eat crow. There would be nothing better than to find a natural substance that either effectively treats CH or cures it.

If this, or any other product, works for you, then I am happy for you. If you are a victim of a fraud, then I am sorry for you. If you are a perpetrator of a fraud, hoping to make money on the pain and suffering of others, then there is a special place for you-a place full of empty promises and dark hearts and no hope.

PFDAN y'all,
kathy

Title: Re: Ambrotose is helping
Post by Linda_Howell on Jul 29^th, 2007, 5:28pm

Here here Kathy....I couldn't have said it better myself.

If you are the victim of a fraud because you, like all of us are desperate, then at least some of us here can better educate you on cluster headaches.

Linda

Title: Re: Ambrotose is helping
Post by thebbz on Jul 29^th, 2007, 8:55pm

[smiley=deal2.gif]
thebb

Title: Re: Ambrotose is helping
Post by godsjoy777 on Jul 30^th, 2007, 12:07am

Thank you for all your interesting comments..... ;;D Since the product has worked on my system to help curb my cluster cycle, I am not a victim nor a purpetrator of a fraud....just sharing information about what is helping me......Many of you have met me...a fellow clusterhead of 16 years.....I don't care how it is sold....or how I purchase it...or who makes the money....

BUT....back to the real point....and that is I wanted to share with you all what has worked for me....FINALLY....and since this is where we do that....ta da!

Pain free wishes,
Karen from Dallas

Title: Re: Ambrotose is helping
Post by billyjoe on Jul 30^th, 2007, 9:42am

I should be close to the end of my cycle, but the day before I started, I tried to make it through a nighttime KIP6 and it didn't work, so I used Trex.
Last night, I substituted Glycomannan for Ambrotose, dose for dose, and had a PF night :) I will say the Glycomannan does not taste as nice, but I like the price.