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(Message started by: SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 6^th, 2007, 2:56am)

Title: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 6^th, 2007, 2:56am

Ok... guess I'm looking for some advice on the shroomie treatment. I've done my homework and I'm "experienced", so I feel pretty good about things, but all thoughts are welcome.

I'm episodic usually 1-3 cycles lasting 2-3 months per year. Never used any meds.

I'm 7 weeks into my first cycle I've had since I found out they were clusters. O2 has been GREAT, but waking up to massive hits at 3am, 5am and 7am does not a good next morning make even with o2. And the only way I can afford the o2 is by the kindness of others. I was eating great, working out, feeling great, but now the cycle has killed all that. Working out is a trigger, life is junk food and depression lately and not sunshine and happiness. So I need to end the cycle.

I tripped on 10 grams fresh + 1/2g dried aborts.... I figure it was equivalent to 2g dry. I did that Monday. Tuesday (this morning) I had a sort of wierd hit. It felt like a bad one, but pain level was low. The O2 killed it completely, quickly. It just didn't feel "right", (ie it didn't ruin my day).

The last 10 years has been switching between 1 or 2 years of mushroom use and 1 or 2 years of horrible cluster cycles. Back and forth, one then the other, never at the same time, with me no wiser. So with hindsight I'm pretty confident this is my knight in shining blue armor and I'm about to be saved.

I'm thinking of tripping on Friday with 2.5g regardless of what happens wed/thurs. That's 4 days break. I know 5 days is recommended. From experience I think that 5 days are unnecessary. I can't do it on the weekend and I don't want to wait till monday.

That's my story in a nutshell I guess, advice is welcome.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by Lotus on Jun 6^th, 2007, 3:08am

I am no expert on this but from what I read on the clusterbusters website I thought the idea of using shrooms as medicine for CH is that one uses a dose low enough not to "trip" ?

All the people I have spoken to who have succesfully used shroom to treat their CH said that the effective dose for them were a lot lower than what it takes to "trip".

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Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 6^th, 2007, 4:57am

I hardly think 1 or 2 grams is a big dose, rather conservative and in line with what others have used I believe. Sorry if my characterization as "tripping" is offensive.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by tommyD on Jun 6^th, 2007, 6:08am

Hi SchwarzenSchafe -

Sounds like things are going well so far, thanks for the report. Four days wait may be enough. The "weird hits" after dosing are common, even to be expected, and are a good siign that the dose has had an effect.

As far as Lotus' comments - the Clusterbusters advise using small doses to avoid tripping not because it won't work on clusters, but because it avoids tripping. Recreational doses are indeed effective, and some folks tolerate them well. But not everyone wants a psychedelic experience, and a trip is not necessary. Therefore a small. barely psychoactive dose is recommended so as to be tolerated by the largest number of people.

Also, there is a danger in hallucinogens - they can trigger or exacerbate certain existing mental conditions. Those prone to schizophrenia and some other serious mental conditions should avoid any hallucinogenic experiences.

There are a few reports of people who, inadvertently or on purpose, took an "entheogenic dose," one large enough to see God, shake his hand and trade lawyer jokes. The results of these very large doses have been inconsistent as far as cluster treatment goes, and would not be recommended in any case.

I'm certainly not offended by tripping at all - good luck and have fun if you want to. There is no sin in enjoying your medicine.

-tommyD

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by birdman on Jun 6^th, 2007, 8:14am

Been thinking about going this route myself. Currently ending a bad cycle and have researched this for next cycle. Do you grow your own or are you relying on mother nature?

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by Lotus on Jun 6^th, 2007, 9:54am

on 06/06/07 at 06:08:40, tommyD wrote:

I'm certainly not offended by tripping at all - good luck and have fun if you want to. There is no sin in enjoying your medicine.

-tommyD

Have fun and enjoy ones medicine ? Novel concept !

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by pattik on Jun 6^th, 2007, 10:23am

on 06/06/07 at 09:54:57, Lotus wrote:

Have fun and enjoy ones medicine ? Novel concept !

I'm assuming that you meant that sarcastically, as usual. Most all medicines have side effects, and if an individual happens to derive pleasure while at the same time eliminating their pain, who are you to criticize? The important thing is that this treatment is used with respect and knowledge of the side-effects, especially the psychological ones. Smaller doses can be very effective for some, but others need larger doses based on their individual reponses. Enjoy ones medicine? I'll take the mild effects of psilocybin anyday over the effects I experience from the prescription triptans and anti-seizure meds.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jun 6^th, 2007, 10:26am

Argh, i hate to hear stories like that......used to live a normal life but now you dont. This CH hits us hard, but dont give up on living your life!!!

I also need a regular dose of shrooms to get the most efffect from the shrooms. I have tried sub-recreational doses and they help, but a larger dose helps much more. (for me)

It normally does take a week or so for the shrooms to kick in and start helping. During that time I get weird hits at weird times. This is normal.

You might want to wait another week before doing it again....especially because you are already 8 weeks into your cycle. I would give it another full week before making any decisions. Gotta see where you are at.

PF wishes
B$

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by Wayne on Jun 6^th, 2007, 12:23pm

on 06/06/07 at 02:56:08, SchwarzenSchafe wrote:

life is junk food and depression lately and not sunshine and happiness. So I need to end the cycle.

I can completely relate to that feeling and I reckon that anything is better than the feeling of hopelessness I get sitting around waiting for the next hit.
I haven't been down the psychadelic road in a long time but if it can get rid of these things without me having to pop pills three times a day I can see nothing wrong! The psychological and physical effects can never be worse than long term use of something like Topomax.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 7^th, 2007, 3:29am

Another weird hit this morning. Came late, then just as it was really coming on and I'm ready for o2 it disappears. That's pretty abnormal, it didn't start out like shadows, again it "felt" like a big one (because of other sensations that accompany bad hits) but not much pain, then poof it's gone. And I should be hooked up to the o2 all morning anyway, and spending all afternoon recovering, so that in itself is also WEIRD. I hope it get WEIRDER :)

Birdman, I'll take the 5th there, but I will say that both options take little effort/time/money.

I haven't committed to tripping Friday but I probably will, considering it isn't likely to do harm and I'd like to see my little blue friends again anyway to say thanks.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by Pinkfloyd on Jun 7^th, 2007, 11:34am

on 06/07/07 at 03:29:52, SchwarzenSchafe wrote:

This is ALL very typical and signs of good things to come.

The "weirdness" is what sets this treatment so far apart from conventional medications, and what tells us that this treatment is doing something much different than the usual medications. Rather than treating one attack at a time, or being constantly drugged up to blunt the symptoms, this treats the cycle itself on a deeper level. (JMHO and YMMV, as everyone is a bit different, but I think I speak of the majority of cases)

Nothing wrong with a medication making you feel good, in my book. Isn't that what they are all supposed to do? I guess we're allowed to feel good, but just not TOO good :(
What do the French say? Sail a V ? ;)

Good luck on Friday. 4 days is probably ok for you, based on your related experience, this time. I would suggest wating longer after dose 2 because you might be surprised (weirded-out) to find the cycle fade away completely after dose 2 and not need a 3rd.

Bobw

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by Margi on Jun 7^th, 2007, 11:45am

LMAO Sail a V? LOL LOL LOL

you 'mericans. LOL LOL LOL

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 7^th, 2007, 4:10pm

Thanks Bob. I had some minor shadows this morning, I think I'll partake tomorrow. But since monday theres a big change, I have ups and downs but this respite is unusually long.

Sail a V... hehe... that's up there with "Walla!" (viola). Around here (SK, Canada) butchering the french language is a provincial past time.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 8^th, 2007, 3:53am

Weirder...

Hit again at 5pm today while away from home. That's a first for this cycle. Started to get bad, I thought "Oooooh shit", and then bang it's gone. I mean goes up quickly to about KIP 6, eye starting to tear, sniffling, pacing a parking lot wondering what the hell to do (o2 is 30 minutes away, my balance is buggered and I'm on a motorcycle), to not even a hint of pain or other symptoms in less than a minute! I sat there in disbelief... I've never had it dissappear fromt hat level so quick, ever. It surprised me, I was literally rubbing my head thinking "ow, ow, ow..." when I realized theres no pain.

WTF?

:)

I have 25 grams (wet) in the fridge for tomorrow. After that I'll wait a week minimum and re-evaluate, but I'm hoping that after that all I'll need is maintenance doses at whatever interval.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by Sandy_C on Jun 8^th, 2007, 4:26pm

I can't speak to the shrooms, because I haven't tried them. I'm episodic, with cycles lasting from 8 to 16 weeks, then with glorious 18 to 24 months of PF time. After my last cycle, using Imitrex tabs to no avail and causing heart palpitations, my doc says no more Trex, so, I decided to go "alternative".

I chose rc seeds, and I chose to follow some clusterbuster advice of using a low, sub-trip dose every month while out of cycle, in the hopes it would completely abort the cycle. So, I did 11 to 12 seeds monthly.

My next cycle was due in January of this year. It began right on time despite the monthly doses. But, at onset, I dosed with 25 to 30 seeds, then another 25 to 30 seeds five days later. Even with this number of seeds, it was still not at "trip" level, just nice and relaxing. I had that first k7 hit, a couple of k2-3 hits, and the cycle was gone in less than two weeks. I'm back to my monthly low dose (12 seeds) and will continue this schedule for the rest of my life. I'm a believer in the alternatives, and take no meds, whatsoever. I do have 02 to abort when necessary, but, dayummm, that tank is getting dusty.

If your shrooms are working - stick with it. Just remember, you don't HAVE to take a "trip" sized dose for the alternatives to work. You just have to find the level that works for you.

Happy PF days!

Sandy

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 9^th, 2007, 2:53am

It's good to know I don't have to take large doses, I enjoy the trip but it does take a good 6-8 hours of clumsy stupidness.

I had a little over 20 grams wet today. Just after coming down, around 7pm, I had a kip 6 hit of about 10-15 minutes. So the pattern now seems to be strange times, short durations, and reduced pain.

I guess now I sit back for a week and then re-evaluate.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 9^th, 2007, 6:58pm

Big nasty hit this morning at the normal time, normal level, normal everything. I'm kind of bummed. I still think it's going to work, but damn it WORK NOW.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by Wayne on Jun 10^th, 2007, 3:57am

Howzit

I've been following this thread with more than a passing interest and I must tell you that I'm more than a little bummed on your behalf following this last post. hang in there mate, I hope the PF days come real quick.

Cheers,

Wayne

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by ClusterChris on Jun 10^th, 2007, 10:33am

are you in B.C?? if so, can yasendme a bag of shrooms over to ontario for me?? They get free pickin over there!! ;;D

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 11^th, 2007, 12:01am

Hit again this morning. Some persistent shadows that seemed like they might develop into more a couple hours ago. :(

I've read about it getting worse for a few days after dosing. I hope that's what's happening. Although it's not worse, just back to normal. Sort of. Shadows late in the day aren't normal but the morning hit is.

Thanks Wayne. I'm trying to stay positive.

Sorry Chris, until the terrorists win the war on drugs you're best to grow/pick your own.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 12^th, 2007, 9:23pm

Nothing yesterday, but a real bad morning today. Started at 5am, the o2 kept it away for a couple hours at a time but it never works quickly on these ones, it was rough till about noon. Didn't get much rest even though I spent over 10 hours in bed. This is my normal mid-cycle pattern.

Just said fuck it and ate a bunch of junk food. I feel like shit, I'm pissed off. Cut my hand twice working, accomplished nothing, lousy weather, lousy day.

I have life to live tomorrow but I'm tripping on thursday, triple the dose. If I see god I'm going to punch him in the throat.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by ClusterChris on Jun 12^th, 2007, 11:31pm

on 06/12/07 at 21:23:23, SchwarzenSchafe wrote:

If I see god I'm going to punch him in the throat.

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Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by Pinkfloyd on Jun 13^th, 2007, 12:33am

Hang in there. See how the next couple days go. Don't yet get discouraged. Aviod triggers the best you can. The fewer attacks the better (of course) in trying to break the cycle. Some people make the mistake of tempting the beast with known triggers too soon. (Not that you have,..just wanted to forewarn you)

I would advise against tripling the dose. First of all, tripling the dose does more than triple the effect. Psychedelics are "rated" more along the lines of the richter scale and not a linear scale.
Second of all, most people have reported that too much is often counter-productive and upsets the applecart more than you want. If you think the followups on day 2 &3 are bad, they would most likely be worse with going that much more on the dose.

good luck,
Bobw

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 15^th, 2007, 1:59am

Well, I took your advice Bob, sort of. Very hard to judge the amount as some was wet and some half dry, but it was probably close to 30 grams wet. Strong visuals, cognition screwy, but didn't leave the planet.

I had them ready to go, I figured if an attack woke me up I was just going to rollover and wolf down a fist full of shrooms, and that's what I did. Could be coincidence I suppose but it killed the headache just before my pupils blew up, a little longer than it usually takes the oxygen. Some very slight shadows hours later and nothing since.

The "side effects" of the medication are getting annoying. Mushrooms are fun and all, but theres only so much fun I can take, I have shit to do. I actually tried hanging drywall. I know this should go without saying, but DO NOT HANG DRYWALL ON MUSHROOMS.

Avoiding triggers is also becoming hard. I had a craving to do pushups before I came down, like a food or drug craving. Just do one, it won't hurt. I'm starting to think the summer will be gone before I can excercise again, and that makes me REALLY unhappy.

I'm expecting to get slammed tomorrow. I'm going to give myself at least 10 days and concentrate on rest and avoiding triggers.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by Lotus on Jun 15^th, 2007, 2:49am

Thank you very much for your candid report of your current experience with shrooms. It has been an eye opener for me. :)

Painfree wishes to you, hope the beast leaves you soon.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by Sandy_C on Jun 15^th, 2007, 5:09pm

Schwarz, I'm concerned about you.

Do you have, or can you get oxygen? With my rc seeds and 02, so far, I have needed nothing else. Rc seeds at low dose, no trip, and hit the 02 the minute I have a CH hit coming on. I use welders 02, with a non-rebreather mask, and regulator that goes to at least 15 lpm.

I do NOT dose, and dose, and dose again with the seeds with every hit, with every pain, no matter how much it may hurt. I space my doses no less than 5 days between, and every dose is sub-trip. I use the 02 in between, as needed to abort the hits. So far, this has worked 100%.

You seem to be taking a lot of shrooms, quite often, and at fairly high doses.

Im worried about you.

Sandy

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by thebbz on Jun 15^th, 2007, 5:42pm

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Quote:

Thank you very much for your candid report of your current experience with shrooms. It has been an eye opener for me.

Careful there JUDGE Judy
Suggestion
Dry your mushrooms completely...get a gram scale and take the lower dose 1 to 1 1/2 grams. Weigh them out. From what you have described you dont know anything except that you are tripping.
I hate it for you but just like 02 it has to be administered correctly and with some control of dosage.
This is another example of why mushrooms should be tested and developed for medical use and not to feel good tripping.
I hate that feeling but it works and works well.
By now I hope you have had some further success. My limited experience has shown after three doses in such a short time you should wait awile and see what the result has been.
Hope you are detoxed properly?
all the best to you
jb ;;D

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 15^th, 2007, 5:54pm

Thanks Sandy! I am going to chill for a while now and see what happens. I've had several people tell me that low doses never worked for them. I am a little desperate too, I might be going a little too hard but I am waiting about 5 days between trips, 3 total now of 20g wet on average.

I do have oxygen, it helps a lot but that's not a solution for me. I need to be out of cycle, I have other health problems and I need to be able to excercise, but just a brief jog will virtually guarantee an attack right now.

I was expecting a lot of pain this morning, but it wasn't bad at all. Barely needed the o2.

I'm going to concentrate ona stable schedule and avoiding triggers... one of which is staring at this damn monitor so hopefully I won't be back here till next week when I post about how great I'm doing :)

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by LeLimey on Jun 15^th, 2007, 6:00pm

Well good luck from me!

Have you tried strong coffee or red bull as an abortive? I know you would prefer O2 to not be an option but until you are out o cycle don't knock it - wallop those hits with it and don't suffer any more than you have to!

Helen

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 15^th, 2007, 6:02pm

on 06/15/07 at 17:42:50, thebbz wrote:

Dry your mushrooms completely...get a gram scale and take the lower dose 1 to 1 1/2 grams. Weigh them out. From what you have described you dont know anything except that you are tripping.

I've done this before, so I know what I'm taking. Doses have ranged from 1.5-3 grams dry weight equivalent. My estimation won't be off by much.

on 06/15/07 at 17:42:50, thebbz wrote:

limited experience has shown after three doses in such a short time you should wait awile and see what the result has been.

That's exactly the plan.

on 06/15/07 at 17:42:50, thebbz wrote:

Hope you are detoxed properly?
all the best to you
jb ;;D

I briefly read about detoxing but from what I know it doesn't apply to me, I've never taken any meds.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 15^th, 2007, 6:04pm

Helen, I did try red bull once, helped a bit. I much prefer o2, it works and I don't have to put that sewer water into my body.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by LeLimey on Jun 15^th, 2007, 6:07pm

Oh I do understand! I hate the taste too but sometimes its convenient and I just wanted to make sure you knew about it - O2 gets my vote all the time too :)

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by thebbz on Jun 15^th, 2007, 6:28pm

I was so happy to read your response. One would want to know what worked to repeat it the next episode. Keep up the good work and I prefer to phrase it as dosing VS tripping. There are some that may take that term out of context.
I hope PF days ahead for you.
jb

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 19^th, 2007, 2:27pm

Haven't used o2 since my last post, about 4 days. Still have some shadows, a couple days ago even thought I might need o2 but toughed it out and it never got bad.

Hopefully this trend continues to it's logical and happy conclusion. I do have ups and downs when in cycle but never this long. Or it could just be coinciding with the natural end of cycle, it is due sometime soon. I don't care either way, as long as it leaves quick.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by thebbz on Jun 19^th, 2007, 5:28pm

Glad your doing better. Keep up the good fight.
jb

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by Pinkfloyd on Jun 20^th, 2007, 12:29am

on 06/19/07 at 14:27:38, SchwarzenSchafe wrote:

Or it could just be coinciding with the natural end of cycle, it is due sometime soon..

Happy to hear of the improvement.

Mushrooms are a much more "natural" end of a cycle than anything you can get at a pharmacy ;;D

Bobw

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by UN solved on Jun 20^th, 2007, 12:36pm

Wow :o those sound like BIG doses to me ! I know everyone is different, but for me, a recreational dose would be somewhere between 3 - 5 grams dried. Sounds like I'm either a lightweight, or the 'product' I get is alot more potent than yours. For me, 20gm would be a long, hard 'trip' to wonderland.

Goodluck with it and plz post your results.

UNsolved

PS. did anyone see "Tenacious D's - Pick of Destiny" ? Jack Black was sitting in the woods leaning up against a tree and he was hungry so he started eating mushrooms. He went for a long 'trip' too. Him and sasquatch (sp) went flying around and swimming in a strawberry river !!

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by Sandy_C on Jun 20^th, 2007, 12:37pm

I'm glad to hear that things appear to be ramping down a bit for you. Keep us posted on how you are doing.

Sandy

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by LeeS on Jun 20^th, 2007, 1:02pm

All the best with it Lee - keep us posted.

on 06/20/07 at 12:36:43, UN solved wrote:

Wow :o those sound like BIG doses to me !

I'm pretty sure SchwarzenSchafe is refering to 'fresh' weight here UNsolved, in which case one can normally divide the dose by 10 to get to the dried weight e.g. 20g fresh = 2g dried; although this does vary by species etc.

I know what you mean by the strawberry river though ;) :)

-Lee

Edited to get the smilies right ::)

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 22^nd, 2007, 1:19am

Yeah, the doses weren't that big, that was wet weight. Just enough to make the walls dance a bit. I decided not to do a really big dose.

Haven't used o2 since the 15th, haven't needed it. I'm getting some strong shadows in the morning at my normal time for attacks, but brief, only 10 minutes.

I am DYING to excercise, but not going to, I've been good with avoiding triggers.

It's been a week since the last (3rd and biggest) trip, and since then there's been a huge reduction in frequency and severity. Gonna give it more time, not sure if I need another dose to finish it off or if it's already on the way out or what.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 22^nd, 2007, 1:21am

Oh yeha, I love tenacious D and thought the movie was lots of fun. They have a song called Lee, I love it. Check it out Lees if you haven't heard it, you'll laugh your ass off.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jun 22^nd, 2007, 1:37am

Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee.

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Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by LeeS on Jun 22^nd, 2007, 4:41am

;;D [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 25^th, 2007, 3:09pm

Nothing the last few days, but I can still feel it, usually during the normal time in the morning. No pain, just that familiar sensation for 5 minutes or so.

Still not working out and avoiding triggers.

Going to take the oxygen tank out of my bedroom today, haven't used it for quite a while and it's huge :)

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by thebbz on Jun 26^th, 2007, 5:37pm

That is some cool news. No pain. ya man.
Hope that continues.
jb

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jun 29^th, 2007, 6:29pm

Nothing lately... I can still feel it lurking once in a while though. Big upset in my sleeping schedule today, which is normally a trigger. It seems to be getting less. I'm out of town next week, hoping to be completely pain free and start working out when I get back.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by Sandy_C on Jul 1^st, 2007, 4:44pm

Congratulations! I'm so happy to hear things are getting so much better for you.

Have a safe and pain free trip.

Sandy

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by DannyV on Jul 5^th, 2007, 7:21pm

on 06/20/07 at 00:29:30, Pinkfloyd wrote:

Mushrooms are a much more "natural" end of a cycle than anything you can get at a pharmacy ;;D

Bobw

Mushrooms are safe to do, and I say trip all you want. Whatever works for YOU.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Jul 9^th, 2007, 3:32pm

I've been out of town for a while - pain free! Despite several triggers (sudden big change in sleep schedule, some beer) I didn't notice anything, not even shadows. Cycles don't end that quickly and completely for me, at least they don't without shrooms. When I did the first dose I was at peak cycle so I should be getting infrequent attacks right now.

I'll be tripping again in a couple months and at regular intervals from now on. I'm working out again starting TODAY and that'll be the true test, but I'm going to start slow and I think I'll be fine.

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by SchwarzenSchafe on Dec 9^th, 2007, 3:15pm

I haven't posted here in a while because I've been (mostly) pain free since my last post. I don't like to think about clusters more than I have to much less write about them.

Anyway, the only time I've had activity in the last 5 months has been caused by excercise. I still can't work out, it doesn't cause anything major, but it'll cause shadows and some minor hits, and I don't want to mess with that. I've been trying to "get used" to excercise and build up my tolerance, because I think it works something like that, but haven't been able to. Usually I have a light workout, it causes a minor hit, I get depressed and say to hell with it, then start over again in a couple weeks.

I've done shrooms once since the little binge that broke my last cycle. That was about a month ago and I took a little over a gram dry I think, not much.

I've really wanted to start HIT training for a long time, which is high intensity "super workouts" once a week. If I do anything remotely like that I'm going to get hit hard, but with the o2 I'd consider it worth it, since it's on my own terms and just one hit. The only reason I haven't done that is because I'm afraid it'll set off a cycle... does anyone know if that's reasonable? Can you antagonize it and cause a cycle?

Title: Re: Me and my mushrooms
Post by annar on Dec 13^th, 2007, 2:06pm

Thank you for such detailed reporting. My husband is a sufferer and considering this route for aborting his cycle as well as prolonging his remission. Your accounts of everything have put my mind at ease and made me feel much better about his decision!

Thank you and I wish you many pfd&n!