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Title: Clustertabs Post by MR_FLOOR on May 14th, 2007, 11:51pm I'm trying some new herbal pills called Clustertabs I've been on them for 4 days along with my regular meds (Calan).I have not had a CH in 5 days .The tabs are suppose to take 1 month to work so I am going to wait to stop taking my Calan so I could see if these work.Has anybody heard of them? ::) |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by George_J on May 15th, 2007, 9:54am Heard of 'em. ::) George |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by Brewcrew on May 15th, 2007, 11:10am Here we go. |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by ClusterChris on May 15th, 2007, 7:58pm I haven't heard of the clustertabs but maybe you could explain it to me while i give you a big ClusterKickInTheAss! >:( |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by MR_FLOOR on May 15th, 2007, 9:08pm Try it a-hole. YOU THINK I'M F**KING AROUND GO TO WWW.CLUSTOTAB.COM. There made from Rauwalfia,Serpentina,Santalum,Album,Coriandrum,Sativum,Base.I Thought we were all in this togather,whats with the smart ass coments.The product is from,Scotland Health Solutions.But it came from Afganistan,if tyou could believe that |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by AussieBrian on May 15th, 2007, 9:19pm Clustotab was discussed just recently http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=meds;action=display;num=1170207316 but we never heard the result. Their advertising is pretty spectacular and difficult to believe but as you're giving it a go, Mr Floor, I'm especially interested to hear how you get on. Please keep in touch. |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by ClusterChuck on May 15th, 2007, 11:35pm I am very sceptical of these claims, but I am also VERY interested in hearing your results! After all, who would have thought that kudzu would work so well for so many sufferers? I look forward to your results, good or bad. Chuck |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by Guiseppi on May 15th, 2007, 11:53pm I agree with chuck, we should stay a little more open minded to ideas so people aren't afraid to post them. If Bi-Polars hadn't also had CH they might not have ever stumbled onto my best prevent when I'm in cycle, Lithium. Please do let us know if it works for you. Is that the one that contains magnesium? I've been taking a magnesium supplement for several years and I swear it's helped the length and severity of my attacks. Wishing you luck and some pain free time. Guiseppi |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by ClusterChris on May 16th, 2007, 12:30am Well, In my opinion, That site is bullshit, It claims it has been around for years but when you try to click on the medical research tab it says that information is not available! Also looks like that webpage was made up overnight! Pretty funny that its been around for years specifically for cluster headaches but nobody here has heard of them! Lmao What a fucking joke! |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by Guiseppi on May 16th, 2007, 12:43am And it's certainly possible the products owner is a snake oil salesman. We should all unite and attack anything we discover is a snake oil salesman. Care should be taken when launching an attack at a member of the board who is asking about someting like this. If he had been a first time poster, offering to sell us a "cure" for this condition, then I agree there are no holds barred and we nail him to the nearest tree. Mr. Floor I will repeat what I said earlier, please let us know how it works for you. I've read enough of your posts that I certainly don't see you as a salesman. Just Guiseppi's 2 cents worth! Guiseppi |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by MR_FLOOR on May 16th, 2007, 1:45am Thanks Guiseppi, I was offended by what Chris said.Believe me if these things work I will try to tell as many people as I can about them,also if they don't I will spread the word as fast as I can to tell people NOT to buy them. Again thank you. Dave |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by ClusterChris on May 16th, 2007, 5:10am I stand my ground. Show me some proof! Till then, It's bullshit! |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by MR_FLOOR on May 16th, 2007, 9:46am I will let you know in about 22 more days so far I started taking the tabs about 8 days ago, and I wasn't taking my normal meds,cause I wanted to see if these things worked .But I was getting slamed with about 4 a day .Soon as I started taking my Calan again after 2 days the CH stopped . Since then I've gotten about 2 CH in the last week or so.So im 30 days I'm going to stop the Calan again to see if they worked cross my fingers .They say if they don't work I get my money back .The damn things were 180.00 for 2 months worth. Wish me luck. Dave |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by Redd on May 16th, 2007, 9:58am My concern about this product is the time frame it states to start working. 6-8 weeks is a "typical' cycle, (though we know there is very little that is typical about these damn things). So after a few 3-4 weeks of hell, and then start taking this, why...did the cycle end because of the pills, or just because the cycle ended on it's own? I always wish anyone luck when venturing on a new path, but this time frame thing is awful suspect. Thats just my humble opinion. |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by MR_FLOOR on May 16th, 2007, 10:26am That's a good point REDD but I'm chronic so I would take them year around(if they work) mabey there just for chronic CH [smiley=confused2.gif] |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by testy01 on May 16th, 2007, 1:50pm Well, the big question; Have there been double-blind studies of this done by a reputable research organization? If so, what were the results? If not, why not? I'm not a big fan of "alternative" medicine and consider it just another term for "doesn't work reliably or doesn't work at all." If it could be proven effective, it wouldn't be "alternative." Who knows, maybe this will turn out to be a miracle combination of herbs and spices that kills CH. I kinda doubt it though. Just my two cents worth Jack |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by Lobster on May 16th, 2007, 3:34pm Someone else asked about CLUSTOTAB's back when the website (www.clustotab.com) first appeared. Here is how I know that CLUSTOTAB's are bullshit... Websites registered on December 29 2006... ABDOTAB.COM ABSOTAB.COM ACHLOTAB.COM ALBATAB.COM ALOTAB.COM ALZHOTAB.COM AMENOTAB.COM AMYLOTAB.COM ANGIOTAB.COM ANORATAB.COM ARTHOTAB.COM ASTHOTAB.COM ATAXOTAB.COM ATELOTAB.COM ATHEROTAB.COM ATROTAB.COM BACK-TAB.COM BEHCOTAB.COM BELPHOTAB.COM BRADNOTAB.COM BROMOTAB.COM BRONCHOTAB.COM CARDIO-TAB.COM CARDITAB.COM CARDOTAB.COM CATRATAB.COM CERVITAB.COM CERVOTAB.COM CHEILOTAB.COM CHOLEOTAB.COM CHONDROTAB.COM CIRRHOTAB.COM CLAMOTAB.COM CLEAROTAB.COM CLUSTOTAB.COM COLIOTAB.COM COLOTAB.COM CONCUTAB.COM CONSTITAB.COM COSTOTAB.COM CYSTOTAB.COM DACROTAB.COM DERMOTAB.COM DIVUTAB.COM DROOLOTAB.COM DUCTOTAB.COM DYSMOTAB.COM DYSPITAB.COM DYSTROTAB.COM EJACUTAB.COM EMUTAB.COM EOSIOTAB.COM ERITAB.COM FALTOTAB.COM FERTOTAB.COM FIBRANGIN.COM FIBRITAB.COM FIBROTAB.COM FISSUTAB.COM FOLLITAB.COM FORMOTAB.COM FROSTAB.COM FROZITAB.COM GANGLITAB.COM GASTRITAB.COM GASTROBAT.COM GASTROTAB.COM GINGOTAB.COM GLOBUTAB.COM GLOMOTAB.COM GLOSSOTAB.COM GONORRHOTAB.COM GUILLATAB.COM HEMATAB.COM HEMNOTAB.COM HEMOROTAB.COM HEMOTAB.COM HERNOTAB.COM HERPOTAB.COM HIVOTAB.COM HOOKNOTAB.COM HYDRA-TAB.COM HYPOTAB.COM HYSTOTAB.COM ICHNOTAB.COM IGANOTAB.COM IMPOTAB.COM INSITAB.COM IRNATAB.COM KELOTAB.COM KERATAB.COM LEUKOTAB.COM LICHNOTAB.COM LIVNITAB.COM LIVOTAB.COM LU-TAB.COM LYMPHATAB.COM MASTOTAB.COM MD-TAB.COM MELATAB.COM MENOTAB.COM MENROTAB.COM MEOLTAB.COM MILKOTAB.COM MOTOTAB.COM MYDOTAB.COM MYELITOTAB.COM MYOTAB.COM NARCOTAB.COM NEPHRATAB.COM NEPHROTAB.COM NERVOTAB.COM NEUTROTAB.COM NODUTAB.COM OBESOTAB.COM OCCLOTAB.COM ODUTAB.COM OSTATAB.COM OSTEOTAB.COM OSTOTAB.COM OTIOTAB.COM PALSITAB.COM PALSOTAB.COM PANCROTAB.COM PAPUTAB.COM PELVOTAB.COM PEMPHITAB.COM PEMPHOTAB.COM PENIATAB.COM PEPTOTAB.COM PERIOTAB.COM PERITAB.COM PHYRATAB.COM PHYROTAB.COM PICKNOTAB.COM PITUOTAB.COM PNEUMOTAB.COM PP-TAB.COM PRESS-TAB.COM PRIATAB.COM PRICKNOTAB.COM PROLATAB.COM PRUROTAB.COM PTOSOTAB.COM PUBOTAB.COM PUROTAB.COM PV-TAB.COM RAYNOTAB.COM RECTOTAB.COM RENOTAB.COM RESTOTAB.COM RETNITAB.COM RETRATAB.COM RHINOTAB.COM ROSATAB.COM ROSOTAB.COM SARCOTAB.COM SCHISTOTAB.COM SCHIZOTAB.COM SCIATAB.COM SCLEROTAB.COM SENSOTAB.COM SIGHTOTAB.COM SILUTIN.COM SINDROTAB.COM SJORGOTAB.COM SONITAB.COM SORBOTAB.COM SPINOTAB.COM SPONDOTAB.COM STENOTAB.COM STROTOTAB.COM SYPHOTAB.COM SYROTAB.COM TACHRATAB.COM TACHYTAB.COM TB-TAB.COM TEMPOTAB.COM TENDOTAB.COM TESTITAB.COM TETNATAB.COM THROMBITAB.COM THROMBOTAB.COM THYROTIN.COM TINEATAB.COM TRAUMATAB.COM UTEROTAB.COM UTRINOTAB.COM UVEINOTAB.COM VAGNOTAB.COM VITROTAB.COM VOCOTAB.COM WALDOTAB.COM WILLETAB.COM WILSOTAB.COM |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by MR_FLOOR on May 16th, 2007, 4:10pm You lost me Lobster. Do you mean all those sites are the same pills? For different ailments? Dave |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by testy01 on May 16th, 2007, 5:30pm Hokay. I've been Googling the ingredients they mention. The first one, Rauwalfia Serpentina, is a root supposed to be good for high blood pressure, insomnia, and believe it or not, snakebite. That sounds a bit "iffy", especially for snakebite. According to the WHO, there is some real evidence for this being useful in hypertension. The problem is that the Clustotab people aren't telling how much of this is in the pills. It could be a lot or it could be almost nothing. The next one, Santalum Album, is sandalwood. I'll admit it smells nice but that's all I've ever heard of it being good for. Makes nice incense. The last one, Coriandrum Sativum, is coriander or cilantro. Great for Mexican and Thai food but that's about it. One last thing. The site mentions that you can download a "clinical trial." Great, just what was wanted. When I went to get it, there was no clinical trial available. All in all, this doesn't sound like a winner. Pills full of coriander, sandalwood, and some kind of mystery anti-hypertension root root. An offer of a clinical trial summary but no actual information available. The exact proportion of ingredients is not given. In any event, those pills are overpriced by a factor of 100 unless they gave you a bushel of them. As an oh-by-the-way, the WHO mentioned that you need to take a diuretic with the Rauwalfia root or you'll start retaining fluid. I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade here, but draw your own conclusions. Regards Jack |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by ClusterChris on May 16th, 2007, 6:30pm Like I said, This is complete bullshit. Lobster beat me to the punch but if you google any of thoseweb addy's he posted you will notice that they are all the same site and they also say 100% effective mwithout any proof.. Just like the clustertabs. The_Floor if you really are who you say you are, I'd start filling out that refund slip. My guess is that you won't be geting it back anyway! |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by UN solved on May 16th, 2007, 7:20pm on 05/16/07 at 00:30:26, ClusterChris wrote:
Just wondering ?? >>> Are you still using Windows 95' or maybe you are on dial-up .... because all the links work fine for me. And where exactly is the 'medical research tab' you were trying to click ? And BTW, I would bet I know alot more about cluster headaches than you do! I've not only heard of them, I live with them. Let me guess, you can make webpages? woohoo ... if this site is such 'bullshit' .....where is the million member site you built ? Comments like those are not any way to make friends around here ! UNsolved PS/ when you guys get done fucking around with clustotabs, try the peanut butter and let us know how it works out for ya ! ;;D |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by ClusterChris on May 16th, 2007, 7:54pm don't know where the hell you are coming from unsolved but as far as the links part, They work just fine here as well. This is what I'm talking about: Clinical Research on Clustotab Clustotab is clinically proven to treat Cluster Headache successfully. You may download a summary of our clinical study in Adobe's PDF format. Click here for details. NOW, when you click on the link, THIS is what you get: Clinical Research Study The unique formulation of Clustotab is a result of extensive study and research. Clustotab is clinically proven to be a safe and effective treatment for Cluster Headache. To download the summary of a clinical research study on the effectiveness of Clustotab please click the link below. Clinical Study soon to be posted here (Size: 96 Kb) Requires Adobe Acrobat Reader. So I guess you must have a Super Computer if you were able to get infomation from there. Please don't make accusations you can't back-up. I have no problem with you and none of my comments were directed to you. Unless of course that is your website. If your having a shitty day and felt the need to start some shit, Fine by me. Otherwise show me some proof that I'm wrong before you go off next time! Cheers. Oh and by the way, Where ever the fuck this comment came from is beyond me, Quote:
Ok I think I covered pretty much everything! Any more questions, feel free to ask!! Cheers |
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Title: Re: Clustertabsand Post by MR_FLOOR on May 16th, 2007, 8:22pm Unsolved,I've been going to diamond for about 12 years I've had 2 histamine desensitization treatments 1 lasted for 8 years the other lasted for 2 they were both pretty sucsessfull.My doctor would kill me if he knew I was taking those Clustotabs (URBAN) .But my cycle was so bad that I was willing to try anything,but after all this info I'm giving up.I'll just stick to my Calan and Imitrex.Sorry if I stirred up trouble. Dave |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by Guiseppi on May 16th, 2007, 8:31pm No need to apologize floor man. With the possible exception of your first response to the profane attack on you, ;;D (Probably how I would have responded to such an attack!) you have been a gentleman, clearly trying to get information from a group of people who share your ailment. I believe this is the primary purpose of DJ's board. Copntinue to ask away. As you've seen from some of the more civil responses on the board, there are many educated people on this board who will happily do extensive research, (see unsolved response), give you their personal experiences, (see Redds response), and do anything they can to help you. Wishing you luick and some pain free time. Guiseppi |
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Title: Re: Clustertabsand Post by AussieBrian on May 16th, 2007, 8:48pm on 05/16/07 at 20:22:34, MR_FLOOR wrote:
Damn, so we still don't know whether it works or not. Ah well, thanks for at least trying. |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by Lobster on May 16th, 2007, 9:06pm on 05/16/07 at 16:10:50, MR_FLOOR wrote:
Yeah, pretty much, Dave. They started those dozens of sites on the same day using the same template. Taking advantage of anyone they can. |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by MR_FLOOR on May 16th, 2007, 9:07pm See if Chris will try them [smiley=laugh.gif] Just kidding Chris I just don't see any point in waisting time on something that cures snakebites has sandalwood and cilantro in it.Besides there mite be a chance that I could still get my money back.I'll let you all know how good that goes. Dave |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by MR_FLOOR on May 16th, 2007, 9:13pm Well I'm glad we exposed them [smiley=moonwiggle.gif]for what they are.At least something good came out of it. Dave |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by ClusterChris on May 16th, 2007, 9:16pm UNSLOVED! Your post is still bothering me, After reading it a few more times, it seems to me that you have made a big mistake in your perseption of my post. I think you mistakenly think I was talking about this sit with those comments. That is th only reason i can see for you defending a peice of shit site like that! Hopefully that is the case oherwise I lose all respect for you! Chris |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by ClusterChris on May 16th, 2007, 9:19pm Floor, I'll try anything once, Just wouldnt buy them from a shady site like that. p.s Check your e-mail! Chris |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by MR_FLOOR on May 16th, 2007, 9:22pm Who are you calling that name Chris? |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by ClusterChris on May 16th, 2007, 9:24pm huh [smiley=huh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by UN solved on May 16th, 2007, 11:20pm LOL ... [smiley=laugh.gif] It's funnier everytime I read it too ! My bad dude. I thought you were making those comments about this site and it struck a nerve. So, I'm apologizing here. Except it or not. PF wishes UNsolved |
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Title: Re: Clustertabs Post by Phil L on May 26th, 2007, 10:54am Interesting thread here, but personally I'll stick to the peanut butter. |
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