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(Message started by: gcormier04401 on Feb 9th, 2007, 2:19pm)

Title: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by gcormier04401 on Feb 9th, 2007, 2:19pm
I think my cycle is starting (shadow for past 7 days). This will be my first cycle after having been diagnosed. I've had CH for 20+ years... glad to finally know what it is. I'm doing the water thing and no drinking for the past week to hold off... we'll see...

Question: sleep always triggers a CH for me. After 6-8 weeks I'm a mess. Is there anything I could take before bed to stave off a CH?

Imitrex pill?

Thanks for your input.

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by thebbz on Feb 9th, 2007, 2:56pm
Melatonin 3 to 9 mg per day. Depending on metabolism and body weight. Triggers them for me...makes me drowsy and thats a bad thing. Works good for many.
all the best.
jb

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by chewy on Feb 10th, 2007, 10:46am
Imitrex is not a preventative.

Might stave off an attack you might get immediately after falling asleep though.

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by Bob_Johnson on Feb 10th, 2007, 11:08am
Ergotamine sub-lingual tablets are an old timer which will block night attacks for some folks. Dissolve one under your tongue about a hour before bed.

Problem is, I don' know whether they are available in the U.S. or not. They have come and gone because they are no longer one of the favored meds so ask your druggist.

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by BigCoffinHunter on Feb 11th, 2007, 1:03pm
Some Neuros will try a regiment of a long lasting triptan overnight, like Amerge.  1/3 of a tablet will let me sleep through the night with no hits.  Sometimes (not often at all) this seems to push my regular night attack into the day however.  But I find it a lot easier to deal with after a full night's sleep, rather than living sleep deprived.

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by JohnM on Feb 12th, 2007, 5:08am

on 02/10/07 at 11:08:17, Bob_Johnson wrote:
Ergotamine sub-lingual tablets are an old timer which will block night attacks for some folks. Dissolve one under your tongue about a hour before bed.

Problem is, I don' know whether they are available in the U.S. or not. They have come and gone because they are no longer one of the favored meds so ask your druggist.


Hi Bob

I recalled reading that Ergotomine and Triptans should not be mixed (Just in case you use Trex or another similar abort and are planning to use Ergotamine at night)

Ergotamine and triptans should not be used within 24 hours of each other.
Quoted from:
http://www.migraines.org/treatment/treatcls.htm


John

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by Found_a_cure on Feb 13th, 2007, 2:08pm
Imitrex is for Migraine headaches to be taken @ the very first feeling of a Mirgraine to disrupt the cycle and this dreaming while you have a CH is phooey as you cannot sleep when you are in such terrible pain, and that's a FACT. and whomever says you can is full of it.

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by JeffB on Feb 13th, 2007, 2:30pm

on 02/13/07 at 14:08:30, Found_a_cure wrote:
Imitrex is for Migraine headaches to be taken @ the very first feeling of a Mirgraine to disrupt the cycle and this dreaming while you have a CH is phooey as you cannot sleep when you are in such terrible pain, and that's a FACT. and whomever says you can is full of it.


Couple of things, Pal.
1st, change your fucking name, it does nothing for you or anyone else.
2nd, trex is an abortive and it DOES get rid of the pain for most.
3rd, I have never heard of ANYONE claiming that they can sleep through these things.
4th, read some info and ask some questions before touting cures and giving any KIND of advice.

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by Found_a_cure on Feb 13th, 2007, 2:37pm
Now I know where all the filthy mouth no life halfwits from the CB went to this site what a fool

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by thebbz on Feb 13th, 2007, 2:40pm
Well then there's two of us. Are you really saying I',m full of shit? You should retreat and regroup.
jb
Good post Jeff

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by georgej on Feb 13th, 2007, 2:42pm
Three.

Welcome to the real world, Mr. Troll.

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by JeffB on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:01pm

on 02/13/07 at 14:37:38, Found_a_cure wrote:
Now I know where all the filthy mouth no life halfwits from the CB went to this site what a fool


You haven't seen shit yet. Stick around and you may learn a few things about your wife!

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by Found_a_cure on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:02pm

on 02/13/07 at 14:40:23, thebbz wrote:
Well then there's two of us. Are you really saying I',m full of shit? You should retreat and regroup.
jb
Good post Jeff

No You said it I didn't

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by Found_a_cure on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:04pm

on 02/13/07 at 14:30:09, JeffB wrote:
Couple of things, Pal.
1st, change your fucking name, it does nothing for you or anyone else.
2nd, trex is an abortive and it DOES get rid of the pain for most.
3rd, I have never heard of ANYONE claiming that they can sleep through these things.
4th, read some info and ask some questions before touting cures and giving any KIND of advice.

DUH!!! couple things is this not 4!!!!?

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by thebbz on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:07pm
DONT FEED THE TROLL

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by Found_a_cure on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:07pm

on 02/13/07 at 15:01:15, JeffB wrote:
You haven't seen shit yet. Stick around and you may learn a few things about your wife!

Well stupid ay least I have a wiife and she is Female not like yours you big filthy mouth sheman

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by seasonalboomer on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:08pm
and the visual I ask everyone to call up is the sleeping german shepherd, awoken, running toward the intruder, wound chain unwinding, full stride, barking, and just in time, the chain stops him before the teeth go into outstretched arm with the hand holding up an extended middle finger.......

hey found_a_cure, realize the chain can be disconnected at any time.

scott

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by LeLimey on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:17pm

on 02/13/07 at 14:08:30, Found_a_cure wrote:
Imitrex is for Migraine headaches to be taken @ the very first feeling of a Mirgraine to disrupt the cycle and this dreaming while you have a CH is phooey as you cannot sleep when you are in such terrible pain, and that's a FACT. and whomever says you can is full of it.



I suggest you have a read of this before spouting off any more half baked idea's.

http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_imitrex_injection.pdf

I particularly like the bit on page 2

CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY
Mechanism of Action: Sumatriptan has been demonstrated to be a selective agonist for a vascular 5-hydroxytryptamine1 receptor subtype (probably a member of the 5-HT1D family) with no significant affinity (as measured using standard radioligand binding assays) or pharmacological activity at 5-HT2, 5-HT3 receptor subtypes or at alpha1-, alpha2-, or beta-adrenergic; dopamine1; dopamine2; muscarinic; or benzodiazepine receptors.
The vascular 5-HT1 receptor subtype to which sumatriptan binds selectively, and through which it presumably exerts its antimigrainous effect, has been shown to be present on cranial arteries in both dog and primate, on the human basilar artery, and in the vasculature of the isolated dura mater of humans. In these tissues, sumatriptan activates this receptor to cause vasoconstriction, an action in humans correlating with the relief of migraine and cluster headache.

And also, the bit at the bottom of page 5

Cluster Headache: The efficacy of IMITREX Injection in the acute treatment of cluster headache was demonstrated in 2 randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, 2-period crossover trials. Patients age 21 to 65 were enrolled and were instructed to treat a moderate to very severe headache within 10 minutes of onset. Headache relief was defined as a reduction in headache severity to mild or no pain. In both trials, the proportion of individuals gaining relief at 10 or 15 minutes was significantly greater among patients receiving 6 mg of IMITREX Injection
5
compared to those who received placebo (see Table 3). One study evaluated a 12-mg dose; there was no statistically significant difference in outcome between patients randomized to the 6- and 12-mg doses.



Now trundle off like a good boy and prove where I'm wrong. Oh and while you're at it, show me where anyone with a confirmed diagnosis of Cluster Headaches has said you can sleep through it

Helen

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by JeffB on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:18pm
I see your an idiot and can't spell a simple word, so it's more than likely your wife has four legs and a feed bag around her face. Good luck with that!
Just wondering who mounts who in your house.
So why don't you take those cocks out your ears and go away you piece of shit!

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by LeLimey on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:19pm

on 02/13/07 at 15:07:41, Found_a_cure wrote:
Well stupid ay least I have a wiife and she is Female not like yours you big filthy mouth sheman



Hey little man, your mommy is calling you to wash your hands before you can have your fish sticks and tater tots. Hasn't she told you not to play on Daddies computer?  ::)

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by Redd715 on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:26pm
If I wasn't at the office...Me and my troll stick would have at this one....

Keep this going till I get home from work...I don't want to miss all the fun.


Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by LeLimey on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:32pm
Redd I don't think h's quite worth the bots butwear 'em anyway cuz you look GOOD in them  ;)

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by Redd715 on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:39pm
the boots?  you mean these?

http://www.gyfootwear.co.uk/co4l-46.jpg

I got new ones this year... ;)




Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by Paul98 on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:48pm
[quote author=Redd715 link=board=meds;num=1171048740;start=0#22 date=02/13/07 at 15:39:04]the boots?  you mean these?

http://www.gyfootwear.co.uk/co4l-46.jpg

I got new ones this year... ;)



[/quote

Whip me, beat me; call me daddy.  LOL

-P.

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by LeLimey on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:48pm
that'll do it! They'll make more perforations than a teabag  ;;D

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by Found_a_cure on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:48pm

on 02/13/07 at 15:19:01, LeLimey wrote:
Hey little man, your mommy is calling you to wash your hands before you can have your fish sticks and tater tots. Hasn't she told you not to play on Daddies computer?  ::)

Now this has came from the side we have had to bail out several times. You remind of some of the doctors I went to , Duh!! they didn't know which way up was either.

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by Charlotte on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:50pm
Dear Found a cure, it is not too late to change your name and start over.  Just go into profile.

Charlotte

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by LeLimey on Feb 13th, 2007, 3:52pm

on 02/13/07 at 15:48:53, Found_a_cure wrote:
You remind of some of the doctors I went to , Duh!! they didn't know which way up was either.


Some people make it very hard to tell  ::)

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by JeffB on Feb 13th, 2007, 4:00pm

on 02/13/07 at 15:48:53, Found_a_cure wrote:
Now this has came from the side we have had to bail out several times. You remind of some of the doctors I went to , Duh!! they didn't know which way up was either.


If you would quit sticking gerbals up your A$$ then maybe you would not have to see so many doctors.
It's obvious that you're 12, now turn off the computer that belongs to who ever your mom is fucking today and go away.

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by Found_a_cure on Feb 13th, 2007, 4:07pm

on 02/13/07 at 15:18:53, JeffB wrote:
I see your an idiot and can't spell a simple word, so it's more than likely your wife has four legs and a feed bag around her face. Good luck with that!
Just wondering who mounts who in your house.
So why don't you take those cocks out your ears and go away you piece of shit!

You must be queer as you seem to know what it's all about. I can tell I'm dealing with a real upstanding bunch here, come to think of it I think I saw all of you in the zoo last time I visited that place as you all act the same, one makes an ass out of himself and the rest follows through

Title: Re: Imitrex at night? Sleep aides
Post by JeffB on Feb 13th, 2007, 4:18pm
I shouldn't say anything about your wife, I mean if she can lick her own balls, she has to be talented. Now go away!



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