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(Message started by: vietvet2tours on Jan 5th, 2007, 2:15am)
Title: Re: Xango
Post by vietvet2tours on Jan 5th, 2007, 2:15am
good golly no.could you tell us all about it.
Title: Re: Xango
Post by floridian on Jan 5th, 2007, 7:58am
One of the compounds in mangosteen inhibits the serotonin 5-HT2 receptors, in a way that kudzu does.  There was some discussion here a while ago, not sure that any conclusion was reached.  Here's a link on my take:

http://www.med-owl.com/clusterheadaches/tiki-index.php?page=Xanthones
Title: Re: Xango
Post by nani on Jan 5th, 2007, 7:58am
Hi michelle. A few Xango juice sellers have come here trying to tell us it's a cure, LOL. There may be some helpful components, though. Look here:
http://med-owl.com/clusterheadaches/tiki-index.php?page=Xanthones
Title: Re: Xango
Post by nani on Jan 5th, 2007, 7:59am
GMTA, Flo... LOL  
Title: Re: Xango
Post by FramCire on Jan 5th, 2007, 8:38am
I have 1/3 of a bottle left in me refrigerator.  A friend gave me it to see if it helped my headaches.  It didn't, but I do know a Medical Health Professional (PA) who swears by the stuff for a lot of things and suggested I try it for CH.

Anyway, neither of them were interested in selling it to me and I did try it, but it didn't help me at all.
Title: Re: Xango
Post by bowles96 on Jan 5th, 2007, 11:44am
Tried Xango juice several years ago for CH had no luck at all for that though was promised it was the cure of cures but the wife and mother-in-law thought it was a great energy boost for them. Little expensive then, not sure if the price has droped but I think I had to pay something like $75.00 (US) for 4 1 litre bottles. May work for you though. I'm actually having a lot of success right now with Red Bull if I drink it right when I feel the attack coming on. Hope this helps.

P.B.
Title: Re: Xango
Post by vietvet2tours on Jan 5th, 2007, 12:15pm

on 01/05/07 at 12:04:30, michellepaul wrote:
Thanks for the responses.  Like many of you, I heard about Xango a year or two ago and have tried soooo many things up until now.  Sorry it didn't work for a couple of you.  It's the second day, so here we go again.  Don't want to jinx it by saying ANYTHING yet :-X  I'll keep you posted.  Keep smilin'
Ya wouldn't have some for sale now would ya?
Title: Re: Xango
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 5th, 2007, 2:05pm

on 01/05/07 at 12:04:30, michellepaul wrote:
 Like many of you, I heard about Xango a year or two ago


Yes, a few have logged in just to mention briefly the success of using it with day to day posting on their CH, like yourself but they seem to move on and we can only assume it is because the Xango has kept them completely free of CH now.  We are hard pressed to figure the reason it is only given such reviews by these very few and not consistently a repeat reminder to us of their CH treatment they've discovered, it's hard to imagine so many here have simply "forgotten" about this infrequently reported CH treatment option.  



Quote:
and have tried soooo many things up until now.  


Can you tell us what has simply not worked for your CH and what made you try Xango, is there literature about it in conjunction with CH or did you hear from another former suffering friend?  
 There is also a tahitian Noni juice which is similar it seems.  Is there an advantage to Xango that should be of notable awareness to the convinced if anyone should decide to venture this choice upon your reminder?



Quote:
Sorry it didn't work for a couple of you.


If it was just only a couple here, are you aware of others it has worked for, they don't seem to have posted to this thread, of the many thousands registered, and we may be neglectively deprived of success stories with it, follow-ups are not ever posted, even though it has been known by us for a couple years now, as you mentioned.  There seems to be little reported about it after the first post of introduction and convincing implications for a short while.  What do you think is the problem with the aversion by so many here when this pain is so devastating and yet those bringing it up seem to do so accompanied frequently with reported day-to-day successes with it.?




Quote:
It's the second day, so here we go again.  Don't want to jinx it by saying ANYTHING yet :-X  I'll keep you posted.  


If you could be clearer, are we to assume it has abated any hits coming through for you with the first-day use so far?  Good hopes for your second day too, although I really am at a loss as to what to expect from your second day's posting.  Hoping it is a success!

Just a reminder though, this is a CH "help" section you've posted to about this.  
Title: Re: Xango
Post by georgej on Jan 5th, 2007, 7:57pm
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r51/georgboise/mangosteen.jpg

That's a mangosteen.

I hear they taste good, anyway.

Best,

George
Title: Re: Xango
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 7th, 2007, 4:18pm

on 01/07/07 at 16:08:10, michellepaul wrote:
When found out that a friend of ours in Mexico (Homeopathic Doctor) became a distributor of Xango juice, I asked him more about it.  

I signed up as a distributor only to get the discount on the cases.  My intention is not to sell the product to anyone, but to find out more about what they can do for all of us.  Anyone can go on line to www.xango.net to find out the finer details about the juice.



Quote:
Just a reminder though, this is a CH "help" section you've posted to about this.  


Did you happen to notice the "funnies and joke" section on this board?
Title: Re: Xango
Post by Pinkfloyd on Jan 7th, 2007, 4:23pm

on 01/05/07 at 14:05:14, Kevin_M wrote:
Just a reminder though, this is a CH "help" section you've posted to about this.  


She knows jonny doesn't check this page out every day.
;;D
Title: Re: Xango
Post by Guiseppi on Jan 7th, 2007, 4:41pm
What they are trying to say is they are unsure of your true motives. We get a lot of snake oil salesmen who come here promising relief to us, many like your husband, who have suffered for many years and are willing to try damned near anything.

I think what raised their hackles is your first post sounded like many of the distributors who have come here looking to make a quick buck.  If you are truly the supporter of a CH husband, don't get turned off by some of the skeptics on the board. We look out for each other and will tar and feather, then drive out people looking to take advantage of our friends.

If you're a true CH supporter and are looking for help, advice and information you have come to the right place and should definitely stick around. People here will give you the shirt off their back to help anyone with CH. Let us know how the mongosteen trial works for your hubby. I hope it does provide some level of relief.

If you are a distributor, looking for a quick buck, please just go away.

Guiseppi
Title: Re: Xango
Post by vietvet2tours on Jan 7th, 2007, 4:56pm

on 01/07/07 at 16:47:46, michellepaul wrote:
Thanks for that last post.  Many people might be interested to know that Pinkfloyd left my husband and I hanging when we tried the "seeds" about a year ago.  My husband had gone 5 days without all of his prescribed medication and when he was in the middle of "dosing" we really needed to get ahold of him (he said to call him anytime with anything that we needed).  He got back to us about a week later and said, what's up?

Who's the real phony here?
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Yep it's you
Title: Re: Xango
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 7th, 2007, 4:56pm

on 01/07/07 at 16:47:46, michellepaul wrote:
Who's the real phony here?



Did you happen to notice the "funnies and joke" section on this board?
Title: Re: Xango
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 7th, 2007, 5:19pm
Think about contributing there with your so far seeming natural talent.
Title: Re: Xango
Post by vietvet2tours on Jan 7th, 2007, 6:07pm

on 01/07/07 at 16:08:10, michellepaul wrote:
So, technical and my post so broken down into little pieces.

I'm not a scientist, just a wife who has been there every step of the way with her husband who has been diagnosed with and has suffered with Chronic Cluster headaches for the last 18 years.  The longest holiday (and the only one pretty much) has been for 9 days - and that is something that we would love to reproduce but can't.  As far as treatment goes, we've tried everything mentioned on this website except for just a few things like lithium injections, surgeries and that kind of thing.

As far as Xango, I read about the Mangosteen fruit a couple of years ago and the information peaked my curiousity.  We put it on hold only cuz we were in the middle of some "other" treatment.  There's not a day, week, or month that we're not trying something new to at least slow down the number or severity of attacks.

When found out that a friend of ours in Mexico (Homeopathic Doctor) became a distributor of Xango juice, I asked him more about it.  He began to tell me how his father, who had emphysema and diabetes, wasn't doing very well.  Then, he started to visit with his Dad in a farewell capacity.  After taking the Xango juice, the diabetes became manageable and the breathing problems cleared up (this got me going because my Dad has emphysema as well).  He claims that the Xango juice will help the headaches too and that we need to try the juice.  

From what I understand, the fruit is found in Southeast Asia and it's all about the Xanthones as mentioned in earlier posts.  The link that a couple of you mentioned about "Xanthones" is excellent and anyone that wants to know more can go to that link as well.

I signed up as a distributor only to get the discount on the cases.  My intention is not to sell the product to anyone, but to find out more about what they can do for all of us.  Anyone can go on line to www.xango.net to find out the finer details about the juice.

We both have been drinking a 1 ounce shot in the morning and one before bedtime - with food in the stomach.  It's too early to tell yet, but my husbands head has felt clearer in the morning.  The night is still bad.  It's only been about 3 days though.

Yes, the juice is pricy.  A bottle costs about $37.50 but if you become a distributor you can get it for $25.00 a bottle.  Each bottle contains a little over 25 ounces.  We bought a case to get us going for at least a month to give it a good shot.  The product gets to you in real time.  I think in only took a few days before it was delivered.

That's the basics for now.  I'll be happy to help in any way that I can.
                                                                                       http://texasholdemblogger.wordpress.com/files/2006/08/bullshit-o-meter.gif
Title: Re: Xango
Post by Shedz on Jan 7th, 2007, 6:13pm
Oooohhh you are awfull!!!!!!!!!! Right, think i've got my breath back, i'll get up off the floor now [smiley=thumb.gif] Cheers Vet ;;D
Title: Re: Xango
Post by vietvet2tours on Jan 7th, 2007, 6:37pm
You come here selling some bullshit cure and have the gall to ask about anger issues. Take a hike.
Title: Re: Xango
Post by Pinkfloyd on Jan 7th, 2007, 6:37pm

on 01/07/07 at 16:47:46, michellepaul wrote:
Thanks for that last post.  Many people might be interested to know that Pinkfloyd left my husband and I hanging when we tried the "seeds" about a year ago.  My husband had gone 5 days without all of his prescribed medication and when he was in the middle of "dosing" we really needed to get ahold of him (he said to call him anytime with anything that we needed).  He got back to us about a week later and said, what's up?

Who's the real phony here?


Sorry you and Larry weren't happy with my service Michelle.
We had 5 emails between jan1st 2006 (1st contact) and feb 8th.
Between that time, we spoke on the phone.
On the 6th, you still had not ordered seeds and had questions.
On the 8th, you had questions about detoxing.
I then left to make a presentation at the National Headache Foundation in California.
When I left, on the 13th, Larry was still on Ultram and Imitrex.
You called and left a message for me (I believe on the 15th) when I was in California (I had told you I was going to be out of town) and I called back after the conference, to answer more questions.
That was the last I heard from you.

I think I was the one left hanging, but, again, sorry I couldn't be more help.

Bobw
Title: Re: Xango
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 7th, 2007, 6:59pm
You posted about short-term success with neurontin, Dec. 2005.  Inquired about Innopran, Mar. 2006.  In between apparently inquired with Bob.

Xango?  

Did you happen to notice the "funnies and joke" section on this board?


To further confuse my understanding of this recent visit..


on 01/07/07 at 18:33:07, michellepaul wrote:
Wow, what's with the anger management issues?  

I'm not going away.  You might want to think about channeling your energy in a more positive way.  That's what our site is all about.




on 01/07/07 at 16:47:46, michellepaul wrote:
Who's the real phony here?


These two posts seem in contrast.
Title: Re: Xango
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 7th, 2007, 7:15pm

on 01/07/07 at 16:08:10, michellepaul wrote:
We both have been drinking a 1 ounce shot in the morning and one before bedtime

Each bottle contains a little over 25 ounces.  We bought a case to get us going for at least a month to give it a good shot.  The product gets to you in real time.  I think in only took a few days before it was delivered.

That's the basics for now.  I'll be happy to help in any way that I can.



I see 4 ozs a day in use, times thirty days is 120 ozs.  That's five bottles to give it a "go" for a month at $37.50 times 5 is $187.50.  Now how would one cover that cost of personal use? (you drinking it also but without as a CH treatment)
 Instead you by a whole case, to give it a try for a month.  A distributor would need to sell 30 a month to maintain that status.  In what way did you mean the words emboldened above?
Title: Re: Xango
Post by Redd715 on Jan 7th, 2007, 7:15pm
Michelle,

I don't mean to bust your chops, but please re-read Guiseppi's post.

We protect and look out for each other here, and if you've been reading the site for 2 years you would know this.  

We don't take kindly to people attacking our friends, specially someone who has done so much for so many as Bob has. Specially over that fatefull time when he wasn't able to return your call.


He states he told you he would be out of town, and you blast him with

"..You weren't there for us.."

BS!!!

We've all been in bad spots.  But we also know that people have their own lives to lead as well.

You sound like like a spoiled child who didn't get 100% of Bob's time and attention.  

I think it is you who needs to get a life.
Title: Re: Xango
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 7th, 2007, 7:37pm

on 01/07/07 at 19:24:12, michellepaul wrote:
people who are just trying to get questions answered and help when they can.




on 01/07/07 at 16:08:10, michellepaul wrote:
I signed up as a distributor only to get the discount on the cases.  My intention is not to sell the product to anyone, but to find out more about what they can do for all of us.  Anyone can go on line to www.xango.net to find out the finer details about the juice.

The product gets to you in real time.  

I'll be happy to help in any way that I can.



Thank you for the concession.
Title: Re: Xango
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 7th, 2007, 7:45pm
I made note of this in his post.



on 01/07/07 at 16:41:22, Guiseppi wrote:
Let us know how the mongosteen trial works for your hubby. I hope it does provide some level of relief.

If you are a distributor, looking for a quick buck, please just go away.
Title: Re: Xango
Post by Pinkfloyd on Jan 7th, 2007, 8:19pm
Well, thats weird....where'd she go?

Just wanted to clarify that I haven't spoken to michelle in email since last february......but now that her post intimating we cleared things up (unless she was talking about some other Bob) makes clarity a bit difficult  :-/

Anyway...thanks Redd ;-)

Bobw
Title: Re: Xango
Post by georgej on Jan 8th, 2007, 12:38am
$37.50 for a bottle of fruit juice seemed kinda high, so I looked around a little.

A few interesting articles about smuggled fresh mangosteens being sold in NYC markets, and then this, amid all the MLM sites hawking Xango:  

http://www.enzymestuff.com/rtxanthone.htm

Not particularly impressive results for the money.  Some of the MLM sites make testimonial claims that xanthones can cure headaches, but they also say it can cure cancer and lots of other stuff.  Xanthones are antioxidants.  If you want antioxidants, they are present in all sorts of fruits and vegetables.  Pomegranete juice is a lot cheaper--unless the antioxidants in mangosteen juice are somehow "special" in some unspecified way.

If you'd like to google around a bit looking for information about mangosteens (and I'd like to try a fresh one--they sound tasty), you might wish to google "mangosteen"-xango in order to get around all the MLM hoohaw.

FWIW.

Best,

George

For some reason, the censor won't allow me to type "supplement watch" as one continuous word.  As in .com after "supplement watch" (one word) .  It comes up like this:  http://supplementhingych.com .  What's up with that?  Oh well.  Search "mangosteen" there.

Edit:  Liz just had an idea what's up with the censor.  I'll try it out.

thingy

New edit:  Yep, that was it.    [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: Xango
Post by floridian on Jan 13th, 2007, 11:58pm

on 01/08/07 at 00:38:55, georgej wrote:
Xanthones are antioxidants.  If you want antioxidants, they are present in all sorts of fruits and vegetables.  Pomegranete juice is a lot cheaper--unless the antioxidants in mangosteen juice are somehow "special" in some unspecified way.


Yes, mangosteen contains compounds that are different from ordinary antioxidants.  Mangostin blocks the serotonin 2 receptors, as does kudzu and olanzapine.


Quote:
1:       Chairungsrilerd N, Furukawa K, Tadano T, Kisara K, Ohizumi Y.
Effect of gamma-mangostin through the inhibition of 5-hydroxy-tryptamine2A receptors in 5-fluoro-alpha-methyltryptamine-induced head-twitch responses of mice.
Br J Pharmacol. 1998 Mar;123(5):855-62.
PMID: 9535013 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

2:       Furukawa K, Chairungsrilerd N, Ohta T, Nozoe S, Ohizumi Y.      
[Novel types of receptor antagonists from the medicinal plant Garcinia mangostana]
Nippon Yakurigaku Zasshi. 1997 Oct;110 Suppl 1:153P-158P. Japanese.
PMID: 9503424 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

3:       Chairungsrilerd N, Furukawa KI, Ohta T, Nozoe S, Ohizumi Y.      
Gamma-mangostin, a novel type of 5-hydroxytryptamine 2A receptor antagonist.
Naunyn Schmiedebergs Arch Pharmacol. 1998 Jan;357(1):25-31.
PMID: 9459569 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

4:       Chairungsrilerd N, Furukawa K, Ohta T, Nozoe S, Ohizumi Y.
Histaminergic and serotonergic receptor blocking substances from the medicinal plant Garcinia mangostana.
Planta Med. 1996 Oct;62(5):471-2.
PMID: 8923814 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


Whether the amount in an 'ordinary' serving of various mangosteen juices is enough to help with CH is unknown - a few people have said yes, a few people have said they didn't see any effects.  It is also unknown if mangosteen is better than kudzu or other 5-HT2 blockers in anyway (ie, longer acting, fewer side effects, etc). But there is a clear difference between mangosteen and other common fruit juices.  
Title: Re: Xango
Post by AussieBrian on Jan 14th, 2007, 3:05am
Forgive me, but I get annoyed when people remove their original posts.  I was just so impressed with the product that I wanted to buy shares in the company, or at least trade some of the shares I currently own.

Wanna buy a bridge?
Title: Re: Xango
Post by BB on Jan 14th, 2007, 12:39pm

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/bargainbazzar/fruit1.jpg


Mangosteen can be bought fresh from a Chinese/Vietnamese fruit shop. Its available in Sydney here and cost about $15 a kg. Its very small, a bit smaller than a tennis ball. The skin is very thick and bitter and is not edible. Only the white meaty part is edible but each piece has a large, firm, bitter stone inside. There is really not much flesh to it at all and certainly not much juice. I am not sure when you buy its juice in a bottle, really how much of the real fruit you would get. The white meaty part taste a bit like mango, soft and sweet and custardy. It sticks to the stone like mango but since its so small one often accidentally swallow the whole thing, stone and all !  :P

Asians eat them by the bucket full but I am not aware of any proven medicinal benefit.

Wait ! Maybe thats why I didnt get CH !  ;;D

Annette


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