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(Message started by: LeLimey on Aug 3rd, 2006, 5:33pm)

Title: Re: Anyone used Relaxica yet?
Post by LeLimey on Aug 3rd, 2006, 5:33pm
From the reliefzone website


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Headaches

The most universal complaint of pain is headache pain...and the most common type of headache is the tension headache, followed by migraines and cluster headaches, respectively.


Hmm.. I smell BS already.


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One thing I want to make clear right away. For over 99% of the population (and the type of pains discussed here) headache pain does not come from your brain. Even cutting the brain would not produce pain because it is completely insensitive.


Sort of like the people who write this crap.


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Sinus headaches (or sinus eyestrain) are very rare and it is very unlikely that you've ever suffered from them.


Okay, show's over. I've read enough!
This product is unlikely to relieve anything except your bank account folks.

Helen



Title: Re: Anyone used Relaxica yet?
Post by skorpio1104 on Aug 3rd, 2006, 5:42pm
You're right...didn't finish ordering it...thanks!

Title: Re: Anyone used Relaxica yet?
Post by LeLimey on Aug 3rd, 2006, 5:53pm
Thats okay Skorpio, thanks for removing the links. Thats convinced me you're sincere  :)
Welcome to thesite, lets see what we CAN do to help you. I understand your desperation and willingness to try anything completely.
What have you tried so far and what has/hasn't worked? Let's see if we can't give you some good info that'll help you get some pf time
Helen

Title: Re: Anyone used Relaxica yet?
Post by skorpio1104 on Aug 4th, 2006, 3:39am
Thank you Helen!!! I appreciate your concerns!!
I'm not on any real CH medication; my Doc gave me Fioricet, only after begging him for anything; he was convinced that I should go to the ER...I didn't want to, but that night I was Kip 10, and couldn't take it anymore. There they thought it is regular migraine, and I had no strengt to argue...they gave me Reglan...of course neither of these really worked on my next attack...started pouring coffee down like crazy, and now the frequency is less, so does the intensity and quantity, although I have the shadows at most time during the day. Magnesium seems to help also, and even Fioricet, if I drink coffee with it. It's been a week since my trip to the ER, and will never go back, no matter what! For all to really understand; I'm 42, and my first experience started when I was 19, after giving birth, in Hungary. Have seen professors, all kind of clinics, and specialist, and no one had a clue what it was. Until one night (winter) I was in really bad shape, but only about "8", when my Mom started yelling at my Ex to call the doctor on duty. He did, and that Doc although never told me, knew something, because what ever he prescribed worked as magic. Had to take 2 different kind of pills, one I had to take gradually less through a week or two (don't remember), and after that, I only had minor attacks for 17 years!!!! I regret sooo bad that I didn't keep the medicine's info, but then, I had no clue about CH. My second serious reoccurance was in 1999 (winter) and only lasted for a couple of months, on a scale of 7-8...I was able to manage without seeing a doctor and on huge amount of OTC medicines. About 7-8 weeks ago I started getting it again, slowly but surely, advancing positivaly on all levels...So here I am, the worst I've ever been, without insurance and a job...for now sticking with coffee and what ever else I think might work...I know, I know, I should find a neuro, but I really do hate throwing my money out and not getting help...

That's my story...(what's your's?)

Title: Re: Anyone used Relaxica yet?
Post by LeLimey on Aug 4th, 2006, 6:53am
Hi again Skorpio,
first off you really do need to see a neuro, you need an MRI just to confirm that diagnosis and make sure there's nothing else going on and you need to see someone who is going to prescribe proper meds for you.

I understand your concerns about seeing a doc who isn't right for you but have a look at the OUCH US (http://www.ouch-us.org/index.shtml) site and see if there are any recommended docs near you, that will help allay your fears. If not, look for a headache specialist neuro. Neurology is a huge field and you need to see a guy who actually knows about headaches and not MS or something else.

Also please join OUCH US (http://www.ouch-us.org/index.shtml). The more of us together the stronger our voice and you'll be the first to hear of new trials etc then.

OTC meds and ordinary pain meds, no matter how strong will not work for CH. They treat pain in a completely different way.

In an attack the blood vessels on the affected side of your head will swell by up to 20x their normal size. That's why its so excruciating. What we need is something that will reduce the size of those blood vessels and get them back to normal ASAP thus taking the pain away.

Vaso Constrictors come in many forms. Prescribed ones are triptans. Imitrex injections and Zomig nasal sprays being the most common and most effective. Triptans are also available as tablets but these are useless for CH as they take too long to kick in. The only exception being Frovatriptan which can be used as a preventative. It takes up to two hours to kick in but if you can take it in advance it will give you up to 26 hours protection from further hits.
Triptans are potentially dangerous and shouldn't be used by anyone with a heart condition. They should NEVER be mixed, you shouldn't take more than one type with 24 hours of each other, ie if you use an imi injection you can't have frova or zomig for 24 hours. You should also bear in mind that you can only have two doses of any of them within a 24 hour period. This is because they don't just constrict the blood vessels in your head but throughout your body which can put a big strain on your circulatory system.

Strong coffee and Red Bull and its generic equivalents are also vaso constrictors due to their high caffeine content. They are a good weapon to have when you don't have any medication and I strongly suggest you read up more on both here.

Oxygen is also a vaso constrictor. If used at 15 litres per minute through a non rebreather mask its extremely effective and is my abortive of choice. Unlike the others O2 DOES only constrict the blood vessels in your noggin so is by far and away the kindest to your body as well as working in 5-7 minutes for me (when using a ClusterMasx (http://www.clustermasx.com) )

Well there's a start! Try the redbull option while you're waiting to see a doctor. Lets get you armed with info and dangerous! LOL We'll help all we can okay?
Helen

Title: Re: Anyone used Relaxica yet?
Post by skorpio1104 on Aug 4th, 2006, 9:52am
Thanks again Helen. Saw you on Who's who, as I was up last night, (one pill and some coffee helped, but of course couldn't go back to sleep right away)

Read probably 50-60% of the site's contents, and it is really a great help, as everyone says. I will join OUCH, and reconsidered going back to my regular GP. Thanks for all the advice, I will look for a neuro near me asap.

Will be in touch, you to have pf days/nights!!!
By the way, you don't look a day older than 25!! I have a hard time to believe you're 40....I don't look my age either, except during an attack

Thanks again!

Title: Re: Anyone used Relaxica yet?
Post by chewy on Aug 4th, 2006, 10:13am
Heres something to get you started:

Dr. Roberta Rose
Sebastian

Potter Priscilla
Miami

David Torrisi
Pensacola

Steven Wheeler
Miami

Steven Kobetz
Miami

Frank Wierichs
Venice

Michael L. Waters
Jacksonville

John F. Wilker (Family Practice Associates)
St.Cloud

Dr. Todd Hartley
Maitland

Sam Synder
Ft Lauderdale

James L. Cimera
Ft. Lauderdale

Title: Re: Anyone used Relaxica yet?
Post by jmorgan52 on Aug 4th, 2006, 3:07pm

on 08/04/06 at 03:39:48, skorpio1104 wrote:
one I had to take gradually less through a week or two (don't remember), and after that, I only had minor attacks for 17 years!!!! I regret sooo bad that I didn't keep the medicine's info, but then, I had no clue about CH.

Skorpio

Prednisone or prednisolo (there are several other names and spellings I think) is the drug you probably had to taper down with that stopped your CH for a period. It is a type of cortisone.

It works for some, but not for me.

John

Title: Re: Anyone used Relaxica yet?
Post by skorpio1104 on Aug 5th, 2006, 8:30am
Thank you all for all the help...I am really bad with meds names...or what they're for...learning though, as I must!

Tha Maitland neuro is the closest probably, will call for appointment.

Have a great and pf weekend to all!

Judith



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