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Title: litocaine drops Post by She-ra_mommy on Jun 2nd, 2006, 6:36pm We are on to a new treatment Litocaine drops in the nose I have to hang my head upside down and put a dopper full in the nostril where the headache is and stay like that for a few mminutes. it works well at night not so good during the day. has anyone tried this? it does not last to long but the neuro say it might take a while because of how long as i have had this headache going 12 weeks. |
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Title: Re: litocaine drops Post by deltadarlin on Jun 2nd, 2006, 7:32pm I'm not a ch sufferer, but I've lived with one for 20 some odd years and I've not heard of lidocaine drops. Am I to understand that you've had *one* headache for 12 weeks? If so, I'm doubting that what you have is a cluster headache (that doesn't even coincide with what I know about migraines, and I have those!). Carolyn |
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Title: Re: litocaine drops Post by Redd715 on Jun 2nd, 2006, 9:50pm I've got them here, have for 2 years. It sometimes will knock down a very low level attack to bareable for a very short time, and only if it's one that is hitting the nostril at the time. I use it more for the kids scrapes and scratches, and once to numb a deer tick bite in the armpit of a 6 year old so we could dig the head out that broke off in his flesh. They don't work for me for anything above a Kip 5. |
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Title: lidocaine drops and 12 weeks headache Post by She-ra_mommy on Jun 3rd, 2006, 12:50am My neurologist says it is a form of a cluster headache. hemicranium continum. it starts low in the morning and grows throught the day I am never pain free. I see shadow where there are none,burning in the face,dizzy, light senitivty, sound sentivity. YES ! I have had it for 12 weeks tried just about everything nothing takes it away. did 72 hrs of i mg of dhe every 6 to 8 hrs it bearly put a dent in it. this is the current plan 75 mg of topamax, zomig nosil spray which I have not used, lidocaine drops.which only work if I stay in bed. I have been to 3 dr. 1 trip to Er and they all say cluster. I am going to headache clinic in July that is the earlest I can get in. I was just asking about the Lidicaine drop if you all do not think it is cluster they I will not bother posting any more. |
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Title: Re: litocaine drops Post by Squanto on Jun 3rd, 2006, 9:01am She-ra_mommy About Lidocaine nasal solution: I've used it. It hasn't actually aborted my headache(s) - for me it just ameliorates the pain. That is, reduces it and moves it to a different location in my head. But sometimes that's a real blessing. I've found it works best if I sorta roll my head around while the solution is pooled in the upper part of the nasal passage (with my head hanging off the side of the bed.) That gets the medication near the trigeminal nerve the thingie that's sending out the pain signals. As you read the posts here, you'll find that the responses (benefits, side-effects, etc) to various remedies are hughly individual. If there was a single very best medication or treatment that worked for everyone this website would have one line - telling you where to find the magic bullet- and this forum wouldn't be here. So, as is ofen said here, "Your mileage may vary!" I personally limit my use of lidocaine via the nose because I'm concerned that I may develop an allergy to the med. (Putting medications on the mucous membranes is a great way to sensitize your immune system to the chemical) If you create an allergy to Lidocaine that will cause a whole new set of problems - for example with dental work, small lacerations, and if you ever need lidocaine intravenously after a heart attack. So I try other things first (like high flow 100% oxygen) and save the lidocaine as a last resort. But when I'm desperate, I use it. Interestingly enough, lidocaine is probably the least expensive cluster headache medication that you can get by prescription. About Hemicrania continua: Obviously you're seeing an MD (maybe more than one) who has a LOT better chance of making an accurate diagnosis than someone who's never seen you. Just the fact that your Doc knows about Hemicrania continua and is using things like Lidocaine puts him/her several light years ahead of most folks. As your Doc may have told you, hemicrania continua is a headache syndrome that falls between cluster headache and classic migraine headache. It has features of both but what distinguishes it is a constant one-sided headache that lasts for more than 15 days a month with symptoms and signs that are somewhat like cluster headache (one side of the head, tearing, conjunctival injection, ptosis, etc) and migraine (visual auras, light senstivity, nausea, etc) Your MD may have good reason(s) not to offer you a trial of Indocin (generic name indomethicin) - but you might want to ask him/her about it. Indocin's best use (and probably only use) in headache therapy is when it's used for hemicrania continua. I wish you the best of luck in finding relief. Squanto |
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Title: squanto Post by She-ra_mommy on Jun 3rd, 2006, 1:23pm thank you for the nice post. Actual my neuro said it's that hemi thing. The Lidocaine lasted about rounds for my and now it does not work anymore. Thanks agian for you kind post. I am having a rough time figuring out where I belong I am just looking for a friend who understands. I am not a cluster not a mirgrain but still in alot of pain and pretty wore out.. |
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Title: I forgot Post by She-ra_mommy on Jun 3rd, 2006, 1:25pm I was on Indocin 75 mg for 7 days it did nothing there is talk of going on 300 mg of Indocin right now we are just try to find something that works. |
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Title: Re: litocaine drops Post by E-Double on Jun 3rd, 2006, 1:27pm The research suggests that Indomethacin will keep HC at bay. Why suffer? Is there a reason why doc will not perscribe this to you? |
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Title: Re: litocaine drops Post by Guiseppi on Jun 3rd, 2006, 1:51pm I tried the lidocaine nasal drops in the early 80's. It would sometimes take the edge off of a headache, would never abort it, and always upset my stomach. Guiseppi |
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Title: Re: litocaine drops Post by Squanto on Jun 3rd, 2006, 4:09pm E-Double (and others) The most compelling reason for a doctor not to prescribe Indocin is if the patient gives a history of GI bleeding. Indocin is sorta the "grand-daddy" of non-steroidal-anti-inflammtory-drugs (NSAID's.) It came along after butazoladine and before ibuprofen and all those things we can now get over-the-counter. Indocin really worked well for some things - acute gouty arthritis and acute costochondritis to name two. But it'll eat holes in your stomach and cause you to bleed if you have any tendency to GI ulcers. It's one of those double edge sword medications; it has a good track record of benefit but a low threshold for adverse side effects. Squanto |
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Title: Re: litocaine drops Post by Bob P on Jun 4th, 2006, 11:23am Used lidocaine nasal spray some years back. May have taken a little of the edge off but never blocked an attack. |
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