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(Message started by: jfrench on Apr 28^th, 2006, 8:43am)

Title: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by jfrench on Apr 28^th, 2006, 8:43am

The name above is the Chinese term for 'Cnidium and Tea Formula' found at most retail outlets carrying Chinese herbs, which have thousands of years of proof of remedy versus our country's much smaller pharmaceutical track record (backed by million$ of marketing and convincing, lobbying DR.'s). I noted the above herb as a Cluster Headace cure I found that has cured me. If you see my post below this topic 'CNIDIUM AND TEA FORMULA' you will see noone believed me, they were jerks, and it got me mad because i was just trying to help. try it and you will believe. I do not want skeptics to respond to this unless you try this suggestion. It has cured me, and I had my 2nd cycle attempt to get me yesterday but I killed it with the herb pills. I'm not selling anything, (its an herb not a brand, there is a lot of different 'compnaies' who carry it, mostly chinese, I don't care who u get it from they aint payin me!) and I dont know any of them, I just want you all to be able to sleep, work, and spend time w/your loved ones w/o being in frustrating agony with your eye closed and head popping. LET'S KILL CH'S!!! SCREW THE DOUBTERS!! THIS WORKS!! DO NOT FALL INTO THEIR PHARMACEUTICAL ENDORSEMENTS THEIR DOCTORS PUSH ON THEM, THESE FOLKS ARE GETTING THEIR BRAINS OPERATED ON TO CURE THIS!! DO NOT MESS WITH YOU BRAIN AND WASTE $ AND TIME, GET THIS, SO YOU KNOW I AM NOT SELLING ANY PRODUCT, GET ANY BRAND FROM ANYWHERE I PAY ABOUT $18 A BOTTLE, 3 PILLS/DAY DURING CYCLE. GOOGLE THE NAME IF YOU HAVE TO. THANX FOR BELIEVING!! AND TO KEEP IT REAL EMAIL ME W/QUESTIONS, JEFF frenchivory@yahoo.com... THANX FAM!!

Title: Re: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by nani on Apr 28^th, 2006, 8:46am

Actually... not everyone didn't believe you. ::)
I suggest you remove the word "cure" though. There is no cure, just treatments. I'm glad this is still working for you, Jeff.

Title: Re: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by jfrench on Apr 28^th, 2006, 8:55am

Thanks Nani. If you backtrack my last post (CNIDIUM AND TEA FORMULA) I got hell for offering advice, and it was the 1st time in my life I did a blog post. It was very discouraging and upsetting. It works Nani, and I say a cure simply for lack of a better word. Will you at least try it for me, because it is obvious yout peers respect you on this site (unlike me), and I will make a deal to confirm my faith in this. I will mail you a money order or a bottle to you for you ro try, and then you can give a testimonial. Deal? I want to help Nani, that's all dear.

Title: Re: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by nani on Apr 28^th, 2006, 8:59am

I was the one who kept coming to your defense in the last thread, Jeff. I will try it, if what I'm using now (clusterbusters) ever fails me. I know what you mean about wanting to help, LOL Sometime, if you have several hours to kill...read the kudzu threads. It's hard not to scream it from the mountaintop if you find something that works.
I'm very happy for you. :)

Title: Re: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by jfrench on Apr 28^th, 2006, 9:22am

I appreciate you, Nani. I was all about trying the kudzu after I read the threads, that's what lead me to the Chinese herb store, they were they only store in my part of LA that carried kudzu (I was desparate at the time to find kudzu based on what i heard on this site, and it was the best route i had w/o good insurance for a DR.). When i told the woman at the store what i wanted (kudzu) for CH's, she had me try the Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San /'CNIDIUM AND TEA FORMULA' , which I never heard of. I was a skeptic, but it worked. She told me kudzu is good for headaches, but, clusters (she knows a lot about Ch's and I was surprised. She told me she is a doctor in China and, this supplement has to be prescribed in China but not here and will work . I didnt believe it either. You made my day Nani, I'm a good guy, and I know the folks on this site respect you, and if I can help them through you giving it a chance, I know I will be blessed. If the crew on this site ( i wish i could call them my fam) knew who i worked for as a talent manager, they would know i don't have time to waste pushing chinese herbs. the funny thing is, I've shown my clients these posts and they get a kick out of me getting frustrated, meanwhile, 90% of the members here have seen my clients' movies and they think i'm bullshittin and my clients get a kick out of it. You would laugh so much if you could see my well known clients bustin my chops for gettin all worked up over this site in the past.They think i'm crazy for responding, but if they had 2-4 weeks of CH's they would know I tell em. I guess it is funny though. Instead of asking for your mail address Nani, I can email you some autographs/pics for u from my crew . I'm pretty sure you'll love it and most of all, I know u will be happy u tried my random discovery for CH alleviation :) THANK YOU, SINCERELY!

Title: Re: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by kayarr on Apr 28^th, 2006, 10:43am

J. French,
I am going ot look into this for my husband. He is pill free right now and all set to try the natural alternatives. I hope it works for chronic:)

Do you have a site on myspace?

Title: Re: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by seasonalboomer on Apr 28^th, 2006, 11:03am

Dude,

I'm glad you have found something that works for you. You really need to ease off on the CAPS and quit screaming about, or at everbody, about it.

The message, from your previous thread, that you should have taken is that the word "cure" is viewed very appropriately with great skepticism. Just don't use it anymore around here, because we have treatments and therapies. Some that work, some that don't. There is not evidence that anyone has ever been cured of CH. I, like many others, have found very effective tools to help limit, cut short, knock back, end cycles. But, I'm not cured. As, you are not cured of CH.

You will in all likelihood have another cycle one day if you have CH. Its' not the end of the world if you do. If Cnidium Tea worked for you, great. Hopefully it will work again. And, hopefully, some others that have found that there present treatments are not as effective as they once were (very common around here) might try it and have success too. If so, great.

But quit all the yelling. I heard ya the first time.

And what's with all the "I'm a very important person" stuff? I can see from your posts you're a person that requires people's special attention, but can you turn it down a notch? You're important. You work with stars, or whatever. Great. Just join us here in the community and be a fellow citizen, and leave the rest at the train station.

Scott

Title: Re: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by Redd715 on Apr 28^th, 2006, 11:39am

Remission periods between cycles can last as little as 14 days to as long as 10+ years. My money is on the fact you went into remission

One thing that astounds me....if I had the $hing to own a 3 million dollar mansion, I'd be able to afford to see a doctor and pay cash for a script....insurance wouldn't be an issue. Just sell the Beemer, the Jaguar, whatever...

How rare too, to get diagnosed with CH with no insurance, meaning no MRI or CT scan to eliminate any organic reason for the pain, and during your very first cycle as well....took 22 years for me to finally get diagnosed correctly, as it has the vast majority of people who suffer this disease.

So many things just not adding up here.

Title: Re: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by Mattrf on Apr 28^th, 2006, 3:16pm

Nani
Does the clusterbuster spray work well? I just ordered it because some on posted about it and it sounds good but everything does. Lol
Does the stuff burn bad when you use it?
Any experience you have had with it good or bad would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Matt

Title: Re: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by Redd715 on Apr 28^th, 2006, 3:33pm

on 04/28/06 at 15:16:42, Mattrf wrote:

I'm not Nani, but are you meaning the Sinusbuster Spray? Clusterbuster spray dosn't exist as far as I know.

As far as Sinusbuster goes...use the search tool here on the site...all your questions on it can be answered in the click of a mouse.

Title: Re: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by Mattrf on Apr 28^th, 2006, 3:43pm

The spray is what I was talking about, just wondered if anyone had personal experience with it before I try it is all.
Thanks.

Title: Re: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by karma on Apr 28^th, 2006, 3:56pm

Matt, I assume you mean Sinusbuster.

You've been the victim of a scam.
Cancel the order and get your money back.

This is a perfect example of why people here are so sensitive to trolls and snakeoil salesman.

Title: Re: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by pattik on Apr 28^th, 2006, 4:13pm

on 04/28/06 at 15:33:06, Redd715 wrote:

Clusterbuster spray dosn't exist as far as I know.

[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]I'd give anything if it DID exist. ;;D

Title: Re: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by Redd715 on Apr 28^th, 2006, 4:38pm

on 04/28/06 at 16:13:08, pattik wrote:

[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]I'd give anything if it DID exist. ;;D

You and me both Patti....you and me both.... ;)

Title: Re: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by Mattrf on May 2^nd, 2006, 3:10pm

To late got it tried it was pealed off the ceiling, man that stuff burns!
And was rewarded by my worst hit in over a month an hour later.
So much for the snake oil, I mean pepper oil.
Trying to find some shrooms now to try that, yes I am getting desperate but aren’t we all.

Title: Re: Chuan Xiong Cha Tiao San (CH Cure!!!)
Post by seasonalboomer on May 2^nd, 2006, 4:09pm

on 05/02/06 at 15:10:28, Mattrf wrote:

Matt, please be on the lookout for folks who come asking about Sinusbuster so you can give them experienced feedback. There are many others who have had the same experience but tire of always being bashed as "negative" toward new ideas when someone wanders by asking about it. Your description of your experience is valuable in trying to save other sufferers money and unnecessary pain.

Scott