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Title: What do you guys do about rebound headaches Post by D_Robinson on Apr 26th, 2006, 2:14pm Okay, I think I am out of my cycle and well just like last time I am rebounding from the zomig. I will say it does not really hurt it is more bothersome then painful, but nothing does anything to help get rid of them. Anyone have any ideas about how to help them go away other then time? My body feels so much better now other then this mild headache from having had so many chemicals running thru it for 30 days. And I will say mild is in comparision to a CH. Hell my wife even noticed my heartbeat has changed in the last few days much lower last night while I was holding her watching TV then it was in the last month. David |
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Title: Re: What do you guys do about rebound headaches Post by unsolved1 on Apr 26th, 2006, 9:03pm Sounds like your HA's aren't as painful now. That's a good thing :) The rebound part sounds awful familiar though. If you think the Zomig is the cause of these headaches, maybe it's time to get rid of the Zomig. They (the docs) say I'm in "Triptan Rebound" now. Regardless, the HA's are 'bad ones' and the ONLY thing I can do to get rid of one is to hit the Trex. It's a vicious cycle I can't get out of. UNsolved |
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Title: Re: What do you guys do about rebound headaches Post by D_Robinson on Apr 26th, 2006, 9:30pm Well it is time to get rid of the zomig since its been two days with rebounds and no CHs, and that was what happened last time with the zomigs. I am staying on my preventative till I am clear of any headache for a full week per my doc, but I was hoping to for an idea on something as a help other then a triptan for the rebound. Its not like I am that effected by it, I can work and get things done, but it is just bothersome. David |
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Title: Re: What do you guys do about rebound headaches Post by Bob_Johnson on Apr 27th, 2006, 2:01pm Part 1 of 2. 'Medication Overuse Headache / Rebound Headache' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Medication overuse headache (MOH), or "rebound headache", is a common and disabling headache disorder that can develop and persist by the frequent and excessive use of symptomatic pain medications. Often these headaches begin early in the morning, and the location and severity of headache may change from day to day. People who have MOH may also have nausea, irritability, depression, or problems sleeping. Alternate terms for MOH, besides rebound headache, include drug-induced, and analgesic-dependent headache. Currently, there is on-going debate about whether medication overuse is a cause or consequence of chronic daily headache. The exact incidence and prevalence of MOH are unknown. One primary care study found MOH to be the third most common cause of headache.1 In European headache centers up to 10% of patients have MOH, and in U.S. headache clinics, up to 80% of patients with CDH overuse pain medications.1 One of the major problems in estimating the frequency of MOH is that the diagnosis can only be made after the patient has stopped taking the medication without any other type of intervention. In susceptible individuals with a pre-existing episodic headache condition (most frequently migraine or tension-type headache), the frequent, near-daily use of simple analgesics (aspirin or paracetamol), combination analgesics (containing caffeine, codeine, or barbiturates), opioids, ergotamine, or triptans "transforms" the headache into one that occurs daily. Characteristic features of MOH include the following: 1. the frequency of the headaches increases over time, without the patient being aware; 2. patient often wakes up in the early morning with a headache, even though this was not a feature of the original headache type; 3. some of the headache attacks may become nondescript – lacking features specific to migraine or tension-type headache; 4. the patient gets a headache more easily with stress or exertion; 5. greater doses of the medications are needed to alleviate the headache; 6. headaches occur within a predictable period after the last dose of medication, usually with reduced efficacy. |
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Title: Re: What do you guys do about rebound headaches Post by Bob_Johnson on Apr 27th, 2006, 2:01pm Part 2 How much medication is too much? The new 2004 International Headache Society (IHS) criteria guidelines2 state that MOH can be associated with the use of: simple analgesics for 15 days or more, for more than 3 months combination medications for 10 days or more, for more than 3 months opioids for 10 days or more, for more than 3 months ergotamine and triptans for more than 10 days per month, for more than 3 months Frequent and regular use (ie. two or three times per week) is much more likely to cause MOH than taking medication in clusters of several treatment days separated by prolonged treatment-free intervals. Caffeine is an ingredient in some headache medications. It may improve headaches initially, but daily intake of caffeine-containing medications, or caffeine-containing beverages, can result in greater headache frequency and severity. Stopping caffeine may actually make headaches worse, and some patients require professional help to overcome caffeine dependency. As well, the new IHS criteria defines headache secondary to medication overuse as headache which has worsened in the face of 10 or more days of triptan use or 15 or more days of analgesic use. Headache must be present 15 or more days per month. Treating MOH Patients with CDH who overuse acute pain medications are advised to discontinue or taper the overused medication. There is the possibility of developing tolerance to the drug, and/or dependence. There is also the risk of developing liver, kidney and gastrointestinal disorders. Most patients with MOH can be treated in the outpatient setting. Hospitalization is usually for patients overusing opioids, barbituates, or benzodiazepines, those with severe psychiatric comorbidities, or those who have failed previous withdrawal attempts as an outpatient. Simple analgesics, ergotamines, triptans and most combination analgesics can be abruptly discontinued whereas opioids and barbituate-containing analgesics should be gradually tapered. Patients should be given a pain medication in a class they are not overusing, in limited doses, to help alleviate withdrawal symptoms, such as headache, nausea, vomiting, sleep disturbances, etc.). These symptoms typically last from 2 to 10 days. The first step to treating MOH is to educate the patient about the role of medication overuse in the patient’s chronic daily headache. If there is comorbid depression and/or anxiety, it needs to be addressed at the same time. Biofeedback can be used to help the patient learn relaxation techniques, and lifestyle habits have to be modified. This can include decreasing caffeine consumption, increasing exercise, using stress management strategies, and improving sleep habits. The goal of withdrawal is to get rid of daily or near-daily medication use and its associated symptoms, to restore an episodic pattern of headache, and to establish an effective treatment strategy including both preventive and acute medications. In patients with a long history of near-daily or daily headaches it may be more realistic to aim to reduce the intensity of daily pain, restore the patient’s ability to function, and to provide an effective strategy for acute management of severe headaches. References: 1. Dowson AJ, Dodick DW, Limmroth V. Medication overuse headache in patients with primary headache disorders: epidemiology, management and pathogenesis. CNS Drugs 2003 (in press). 2. Headache Classification Subcommittee of the International Headache Society. The International classification of headache disorders, 2nd ed. Cephalalgia 2004;24(suppl 1):1-160. Sources: Gladstone J, Eross E, Dodick DW. Chronic daily headache: a rational approach to a challenging problem. Semin Neurol 2003;265-276. American Family Physican - Rebound Headache. http://www.w-h-a.org/wha2/index.asp |
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Title: Re: What do you guys do about rebound headaches Post by D_Robinson on Apr 27th, 2006, 10:12pm Bob, Thanks for the info, basically I get to dry out the oldfashioned way. What a fun way to end my cycle. what an exciting way to celebrate the end of my CHs is with rebounds. I guess I need just thankful the real pain is over, but this is friggin sucks. I want to be so excited and well I get to put up with a constant heachache till I get this out of my system. David |
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Title: Re: What do you guys do about rebound headaches Post by Bob_Johnson on Apr 28th, 2006, 12:22pm Here is a link to read and print and take to your doctor. It describes preventive, transitional, abortive and surgical treatments for CH. (2002) http://www.brightok.net/~mnjday/chtherapy.pdf |
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Title: Re: What do you guys do about rebound headaches Post by D_Robinson on Apr 28th, 2006, 7:38pm well the little asshle in my head has gone from a acelyne torch to a propone torch to a cigar so I am thinking the rebound headaches are petty much over. The last time I weaned myself off the zomig myself and well this time I did her way. Well my way worked in about the same time frame with less pain and more sleep. Bob again thanks for the info. David |
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Title: Re: What do you guys do about rebound headaches Post by Radha on Apr 30th, 2006, 11:27pm can you still get rebound headaches if you take a different med daily, like one day darvocet, next day vicodin, next day ultram? radha |
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