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(Message started by: Mikey99 on Mar 29^th, 2006, 10:43pm)

Title: It's a miracle
Post by Mikey99 on Mar 29^th, 2006, 10:43pm

Hello
I have suffered from severe headaches for over 20 years. My main type of headache is Cluster (although I get migraines too). When I was a teenager, I didn't take Meds because I felt they were useless. I suffered intensely every three months for 2 weeks (3-4 headaches a day) lasting 1-3 hours. Eventually I seeked out Medical help. The Doctor gave me meds that I can't even spell. The last treatment I used was Depakote and imitrex. The Depakote was to prevent the attack and the Imitrex was to abort. The Depakote gave me Insomia, however, the imitrex provided some relief. I could go on but just giving you a little history before trying a natural remedy.
I got tired of the side effects of the Meds so I researched the web to find a treatment. Since doctors always gave me an abortive and an anti inflammatory, I looked for two natural remedies and found 3.
Here is what I found. It works!!!
At the very onset of a headache, I would mix the following tea. Must be warm not hot.
Pour a cup of bottled water into a pan
add 1 ginger root tea bag (alvita makes a good one)
let the water get hot (not boiling hot)
add 2 teaspoons of honey
mix the honey well with the tea and let it sit until warm (not luke warm)
remove the tea bag (make sure you drain out all the ginger you can)
add 8 drops of cell food by Lumina health (the vitamin shop sells this).
Done
This little mixture has been a God send for me. I repeat this 3X a day and it works.

Believe it or not, it will abort as well as prevent! God is good! Thanks to the prayers of my family and friends

Title: Re: It's a miracle
Post by Roxy on Mar 29^th, 2006, 11:21pm

Well Mikey, that sounds great, and I'm happy it works for you.

BUT.....if I tried to make that at the onset of a ch, I would get to putting the water in the pan before I was incapable of anything else but breathing my 02.

Glad you found a miracle.

Title: Re: It's a miracle
Post by Mikey99 on Mar 30^th, 2006, 9:20am

Yes, There are times that you may not be able to have it warm so you must prepare it in advance. You can pour the finished recipe into a water bottle. It works at room temperatue as well. Keep it by your bed. I just found out that when it is warm, it works faster.

So, if you ever run out of oxygen, give it a try. It will probably work for you because the cell food provides needed oxygen to every cell in the body.

Title: Re: It's a miracle
Post by seasonalboomer on Mar 30^th, 2006, 10:03am

I'll try to guess which ingredient you feel is most important. Maybe the Cellfood? At $25+ per ounce that's a pricey alternative to breathing, which is, from everything I've read, the way our cells most effectively get oxygen. I went ot get Kudzu the other day at the local healthfood store and the lady in the supplement aisle was pushing this stuff hard. It's only one of the most expensive items on the shelf. Look it up on Quackwatch and other de-bunking websites.

Many people however do find warm drinks to be soothing during CH, many others find cold ones to be the ticket.

Scott

Title: Re: It's a miracle
Post by Mikey99 on Mar 30^th, 2006, 10:58am

Hey Scott

Hope all is well.

The meds that I used to take (depakote, imitrex) costs a lot more than cellfood. The cellfood alone will not get the job done. The 3 mixed together takes care of the pain and all of the soreness that lingers after many attacks. In short, it enables me to have a clear head which is something the Cluster cycles will not allow (between attacks).

I don't know about you but in my 20 + years as a CH patient, breathing regular air does not do it for me.

I thank that Roxy can attest to that.

I tell you the truth, if something costs $100 a bottle, if it can give me even a few days peace, I would do it.

My headaches are no Joke!

Whatever you use, I pray it continues to work for you.

God Bless

Title: Re: It's a miracle
Post by floridian on Mar 30^th, 2006, 1:26pm

There has been a lot of talk here about hot pepper (capsaicin) before. Ginger contains compounds similar to that ... a good ginger ale (like Blenheim) will burn like the devil.

Ginger has been found to help some with migraine - it contains things that block the serotonin-3 receptors (5-HT3). It might help some with clusters as well.

http://www.med-owl.com/clusterheadaches/tiki-index.php?page=Capsaicin

Title: Re: It's a miracle
Post by seasonalboomer on Mar 30^th, 2006, 2:48pm

Okay, the Ginger may have some relevance but don't let go of the CellFood connection. When someone drops the brandname of a product that it's founders have the following bio's I take a look.
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Mark Rubin is an activist in the realm of mind/body/spirit development, and promotes youthful living as a lifetime endeavor.

David Rubin has travelled the world as a management trainer to many of the world's leading high-tech companies, and now counsels in the area of health, nutrition and human longevity.
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Those are some credentials there! Yes I edited them down. They also had extensive expertise in running.

Check the website for yourself. http://www.luminahealth.com/company.htm
Seen these kind of products before. Maybe Coral Calcium or something like that.

Call me grumpy, but if the Ginger and honey work, save yourself some money by not buying this stuff.

Scott

Title: Re: It's a miracle
Post by floridian on Mar 31^st, 2006, 9:58am

Yeah, the cellfud looks dubious. Ginger is an innexpensive food/herb with a decent research track record. The cellflub is a dubious proprietary compound, and the 'research' on their site is worthless drivel.

Title: Re: It's a miracle
Post by PV on Mar 31^st, 2006, 12:32pm

I also had some good experience with ginger root.

I used to make tea from fresh ginger root and the stronger the better. I have been able to abort attacks with this tea instantly.

but like so many things, it only worked for while

Title: Re: It's a miracle
Post by chewy on Mar 31^st, 2006, 9:24pm

Quote:

Mark Rubin is an activist in the realm of mind/body/spirit development, and promotes youthful living as a lifetime endeavor.

David Rubin has travelled the world as a management trainer to many of the world's leading high-tech companies, and now counsels in the area of health, nutrition and human longevity.

So niether one of them has a real job?

Title: .Re: It's a miracle
Post by Mikey99 on Apr 2^nd, 2006, 4:07pm

Well, this thread has not gotten the best response as there are a lot of skeptics. But one day someone is going to put aside all the bias (rubin this rubin that -who cares as long as it works) and try the tea mixture at the beginning of this thread.

They will probably laugh all the way to a pain free cycle-- or at least 90% pain free.

Another interesting note is that lumina health is not the only brand of cellfood. Just happened to be the one at the vitamin shoppe at the time I was looking for it.

One other thing to note with any treatment that you take whether meds or alternative:

You must go to bed at the same time each night and wake up at the same time each morning. This is a discipline that many do not have but it will make a world of difference in your pain.

In order to exercise this discipline during a cycle, you will definitely need an effective treatment.

Lack of sleep will render any treatment useless.

Never give up! You are almost there.

Title: Re: .It's a miracle
Post by seasonalboomer on Apr 3^rd, 2006, 7:54am

on 04/02/06 at 16:07:35, Mikey99 wrote:

Well, this thread has not gotten the best response as there are a lot of skeptics. But one day someone is going to put aside all the bias (rubin this rubin that -who cares as long as it works) and try the tea mixture at the beginning of this thread.

They will probably laugh all the way to a pain free cycle-- or at least 90% pain free.

One other thing to note with any treatment that you take whether meds or alternative:

You must go to bed at the same time each night and wake up at the same time each morning. This is a discipline that many do not have but it will make a world of difference in your pain.

In order to exercise this discipline during a cycle, you will definitely need an effective treatment.

Lack of sleep will render any treatment useless.

Hey Mikey,

I'll admit it Mikey. I'm a skeptic. When someone arrives and within their first few posts mentions a product that I've actually done a little looking into to find that its claims are beyond fantastic, I respond.

Your use of the line, "they will probably laugh their way to a pain free cycle" is another example of why I'm a skeptic of you, Mikey. That line has been used on these threads by so many. And the many that use that line, almost always are here for a very short time before finally tiring of hearing the true efforts of managing and living with Cluster Headache. People who are fighting the fight using either alternative treatments and conventional pharmaceuticals.

So before you get all defensive because someone put up a question mark about your miracle, understand that you just got here. Many of us read, read and read. And, believe it or not, try things they find on this site. But, we're careful and we watch out for those that cite the possibility of "laughing our way through a pain-free cycle". Even when successful with the treatments I have used I can tell you I wouldn't have the nerve to tell folks here of "laughing through a pain-free cycle."

As going to bed and waking at the same time everyday, or nothing will work right. Should I also position my bed in the middle of pyramidal structure, place some chrystals around the room, or how about a magnet matress pad? Just as long as you don't recommend that I need aromatherapy to go with the synchronzied sleep patterns, because floral aroma's can be a trigger for me.

Scott