Clusterheadaches.com Message Board


    
      
        Clusterheadaches.com Message Board
        (http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi)
      

        Cluster Headache Help and Support >> Medications, Treatments, Therapies >> Kudzu vs. Seeds vs. stuff I'm taking...Help
        
(Message started by: shahooty on Mar 7^th, 2006, 5:29pm)

Title: Kudzu vs. Seeds vs. stuff I'm taking...Help
Post by shahooty on Mar 7^th, 2006, 5:29pm

I'm in the middle of a monster cycle. Nothing is working. I'm finishing up a Prednisone taper and the headaches are busting right through. I want to try Kudzu or seeds but am not sure which to try first. Any suggestions from people who have tried both?

Also wondering if anyone knows how either of those will interact with the prednisone. My doctor also wants me to start imipramine (has anyone tried this?), but it seems like that could interact with the Kudzu or the seeds.

Any advice on my current situation would be appreciated.

Title: Re: Kudzu vs. Seeds vs. stuff I'm taking...Help
Post by Richr8 on Mar 7^th, 2006, 5:37pm

on 03/07/06 at 17:29:05, shahooty wrote:

I'm finishing up a Prednisone taper and the headaches are busting right through

The only time I've had them break through a pred taper, I have had to kick up the dose and hold it a little longer. Usually, 60mg for 5-7 days does it, then taper.

I'm sure other will chime in, but I believe you have to detox before Kudzu, seeds, or cb's.

BTW-I'm thinking of trying the Kudzu approach on my next cycle prior to the pred taper.

Good luck and pfdan,\Rich

Title: Re: Kudzu vs. Seeds vs. stuff I'm taking...Help
Post by nani on Mar 7^th, 2006, 5:53pm

You need to inform yourself fully before going either route. I'll give you links at the end of this post. The kudzu and pred should not present any problems. You want to avoid verapamil and the triptans. The seeds work best when you are med free.
Have you tried oxygen as an abortive? Look over on the left for a link. It's the best abortive for use with both those treatments.
For kudzu info, read this (and all the links contained therein...although some have expired and DJ hasn't fixed them yet)
http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=meds;action=display;num=1110584362

For seeds, look here and read the LSA FAQ
www.clusterbusters.com

I have had great success with both. The kudzu did eventually stop working for me, so that's when I decided to go the other route.

Keep us posted. pain free wishes, nani

Title: Re: Kudzu vs. Seeds vs. stuff I'm taking...Help
Post by tex_leger on Mar 24^th, 2006, 2:51pm

I hope I can help. I also had them break through my pred at 20mg. I had to start all over with 60mg taper but this time I also started 15mg of melatonin and this time I was able to taper dowm to zero and for two weeks I was pf . then they came back but at a k2 to k4 for about 15min to 30min and i had between3 and 4 a night, everytime I got a ha I would take 15mg of melatonin and 3 extra strength Tylenol. This was a lot better then a k10 for 5 hr.s, now I am trying 2 cap of kudzu(613mg) at 6pm and 5 cap (15mg) of melatonin at 8pm it looks like it might work. thats my two cents.
Good luck Tex
:) :) :) :) :)