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(Message started by: Jenny G on Feb 9^th, 2006, 2:13pm)

Title: Getting ready to get "seedy"
Post by Jenny G on Feb 9^th, 2006, 2:13pm

Have a short successful run with Kudzu. Was PF for 2 days straight until I had a Cluster/Migraine Combo this morning that lasted about 4 hours. Included vomiting.

I got a nice mark on my cheek and no idea how, maybe I blacked out or its from smacking my head with "A Million Little Pieces" by James Frye - I never finished reading it after Oprah revealed the ending when she grilled that dude on her show.

Anyhow, seeds are almost done soaking in water for two hours. Wish me luck.

Bottoms up - Salut!

Title: Re: Getting ready to get "seedy"
Post by nani on Feb 9^th, 2006, 2:16pm

Good luck, Jenny :)
Have you detoxed from the kudzu (and/or other meds)?
Just curious: what kind and how many seeds are you trying?
PF wishes, nani

Title: Re: Getting ready to get "seedy"
Post by Jenny G on Feb 9^th, 2006, 2:18pm

I took Kudzu last night. Should I wait?

I have not been on anything else. I plan on doing 6 seeds.

Title: Re: Getting ready to get "seedy"
Post by nani on Feb 9^th, 2006, 2:25pm

Kudzu may interfere with the efficacy of the treatment. We don't have much in the way of research to back that up, though. It likely won't hurt to go ahead and try the seeds, but they may not be effective. I did my first shroom dose 24 hours after my last kudzu tab, and it did work, but not completely. We do know that kudzu within 2 hours of Imitrex can make the trex ineffective. What kind of seeds are they?

Title: Re: Getting ready to get "seedy"
Post by Jenny G on Feb 9^th, 2006, 2:26pm

They are rc seeds.

Title: Re: Getting ready to get "seedy"
Post by nani on Feb 9^th, 2006, 2:27pm

Thanks. I like for all the info to be out here so others (who know more, LOL) can chime in, too. Good luck to you, and keep us posted, OK?
pf wishes, nani

Title: Re: Getting ready to get "seedy"
Post by E-Double on Feb 9^th, 2006, 2:29pm

Girl.......you need to research more!!!!!!!!
It is hard enough taking instructions from doctors, for what the Busters are attempting to do for all of us, if you are going to embark on something like it then make sure you are doing it right!!

I am sorry but that kinda ticked me off.

I am in the process of a very long and to be honest painful detoxification period with the hopes of maybe trying what you are about to do.

I finally have my wife's support because she has read how close to scientific one can be without true clinical data.

Don't mess yourself up and suddenly have some of us stuck again.

Don't mess yourself up and get HURT!

Good luck and read more.

Be safe!

Eric

Title: Re: Getting ready to get "seedy"
Post by Jenny G on Feb 9^th, 2006, 2:36pm

I've not found any research on Kudzu and RC seeds on the clusterbuster site.

I did not think that taking Kudzu for less than a week required a lengthy detox period. I have not taken anything else, not drugs, shots, anything.

Title: Re: Getting ready to get "seedy"
Post by E-Double on Feb 9^th, 2006, 2:43pm

Good luck and many hugs!!

Just want you PF and SAFE

Title: Re: Getting ready to get "seedy"
Post by Jenny G on Feb 9^th, 2006, 2:46pm

Thanks, I'll post my "results" Good, bad or indifferent.

I am dedicated to donate my head to science for this board :)

Title: Re: Getting ready to get "seedy"
Post by LeLimey on Feb 9^th, 2006, 2:59pm

Good luck Jenny, remember we're always here to help in any way we can and don't ever be afraid to ask a "daft" question okay?
I promise you I have the monopoly on really stooopid questions so anything you ask cannot make you look as thick as me! ;;D
love
Helen

Title: Re: Getting ready to get "seedy"
Post by BikerBob on Feb 9^th, 2006, 3:42pm

I would detox from kudzu for 7 days before using RC seeds. What blocks the effects of psilocybin also blocks the effects of LSA.

Floridian wrote:

"Anecdotal evidence suggests that kudzu can block the effects of psilocybin; one person reports that taking a normal dose of kudzu for a week completely blocked the psychological and physical effects of 1.5 grams of psilocybin mushrooms. Those interested in the Clusterbuster approach should consider the strong possibility that kudzu will interfere with that therapeutic approach."

See: http://med-owl.com/clusterheadaches/tiki-index.php?page=Kudzu

BB

Title: Re: Getting ready to get "seedy"
Post by Rock_Lobster on Feb 9^th, 2006, 4:39pm

Good luck!
You did grind them up, right?

Bottoms up!

(I never detox either ;;D)

Title: Re: Getting ready to get "seedy"
Post by Jenny G on Feb 9^th, 2006, 5:04pm

It's been about 2 hours since I did them. I crushed the seeds with the butt of a screwdriver and soaked in water for about 2 hrs. Added some extra water after I drank it to get the remnants out as another CH suggested.

Did not see any tiny green men or try to pick bugs out of my skin :) I did feel a slight buzz and my lips were a little tingly.

Started to get HA about 1/2 hr ago, was easily stopped with ice pack.

Will post more. Thanks for the support!

Title: Re: Getting ready to get "seedy"
Post by sandie99 on Feb 10^th, 2006, 11:20am

Good luck, Jenny! :)

Wishing you lots of PF days,
Sanna