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(Message started by: DJ on Nov 15th, 2004, 8:46pm)

Title: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by DJ on Nov 15th, 2004, 8:46pm
Here is an excellent opportunity to teach (and maybe learn) from pharmacy students!

Dear Message Board Members,

I am a pharmacist and Assistant Professor at the Wingate University School of Pharmacy in North Carolina. I am in charge of the E-mail Patient Program. Our program connects a doctoral pharmacy student with a real patient. The course is designed to help our students learn about medical illness from patients rather than textbooks. The course begins in January and involves once weekly e-mail conversations on a variety of health care topics. We ask you to answer only those questions you are comfortable with and no identifying information is gathered. Only the instructor (me) and your student will have access to your email address.

We have had great success in the past with this program. Our students learn a lot from their patients. As a bonus, our students can provide you with drug information if you wish.

Feel free to check out our school's website if you would like to know more. http://pharmacy.wingate.edu/home.asp

Sincerely,
Christian Dolder, PharmD, BCPS
cdolder@wingate.edu

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by vig on Nov 15th, 2004, 9:25pm
It's about an hour and a half from me, so I wrote to him and asked for more information,
Thanks DJ

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Mr. Happy on Nov 15th, 2004, 11:35pm

on 11/15/04 at 21:25:32, vig wrote:
It's about an hour and a half from me, so I wrote to him and asked for more information

It's an email thing, Vig. No driving to the college and hitting on the Co-eds. This is on the up and up.

Curséd be our luck,
RJ

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Racer1_NC on Nov 16th, 2004, 12:47am
Email sent.

Bill

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by BobG on Nov 16th, 2004, 2:57am
This looks like a program that has the potential for the future Pharmacists to actually learn something about the diseases they are selling medicines for.
Thanks DJ.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Bob_Johnson on Nov 16th, 2004, 9:22am
I participated in this effort last time this message was posted. It was a very good experience as I was paired with a sharp guy who was asking good questions and was, from his follow-up questions, clearly reflecting on what I was sending him.

It's a good opportunity to help educate the broader medical community.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Karla on Nov 16th, 2004, 12:30pm
I really enjoyed participating in this the last time  we were contacated. I learned alot and so did he.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by taraann on Nov 16th, 2004, 1:04pm
I was paired with a great student last time around.  She was very bright, asked alot of intelligent questions.  She genuinly tried to understand what I go through.  A great experience.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Mark C on Nov 16th, 2004, 1:17pm
As Martha would say...."It's a good thing"  ;;D

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by catlind on Nov 17th, 2004, 8:49am
I've been working with a pharmacist  and 5-6 students that change every month locally at Creighton University.  My experience has been that they are the ones to befriend.  Once they understand the situation, they can lobby your doctor (usually with great success) to get scripts written beneficially and to get access to new medications.  Ironically, one of the students was a graduate from Wingate.  This program REALLY is helping.  Education can come from many angles, and this is definitely turning out to be a good one.

I found it particularly valuable to have an informed pharmacy staff when I was put in the hospital for DHE treatments and the on call neuro ordered a medication that was contraindicated for me.  The pharmacy staff picked up on it and went back to the neuro to verify.  Since it had potentially fatal effects (it would have affected cardiac issues I had) it's a very good thing to have pharmacy residents and techs highly informed about the nature of cluster headaches and the medications prescribed.

Most docs really don't know much about the meds they prescribe, so your pharmacist can become your best friend.  I've found this to be especially true with the psilocybin trials.  The pharmacists at Creighton have participated in other studies using MDMA, psilocybin, LSD and marijuana and they have a good knowledge base on what drugs to avoid with these substances.

The docs may not be willing to listen, and more likely are completely uninformed about potential drug interactions with the psilocybin trials so pharmacy students may be our best defense.

Cat

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by don on Nov 17th, 2004, 11:52am
Got a response just this morning.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by JDH on Nov 17th, 2004, 12:33pm

on 11/17/04 at 11:52:15, don wrote:
Got a response just this morning.


ditto

Jim

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Nov 22nd, 2004, 8:03pm
Me too!  *smile*

Kris

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Gator on Dec 2nd, 2004, 1:54pm
I just found this.  Sucks when you are away for a while and come back to find that you've been missing out.  I have also volunteered.  Just awaiting a response.


Gator

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Lizzie2 on Dec 13th, 2004, 3:45pm
Just sent a message myself!  I wonder if they can help me study for pharmacology, too!! ;)  It would be mutually beneficial hehe  ;;D

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by RichardN on Jan 14th, 2005, 12:35am

 Just got my e-mail off.

 Sounds like a great  program.

 Thanks DJ, again

      Richard

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by nani on Jan 14th, 2005, 12:49am
I got an e-mail today that I will be contacted by "my student" in about 2 weeks.  :)

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by vig on Jan 14th, 2005, 11:00am

on 01/14/05 at 00:49:02, nani wrote:
I got an e-mail today that I will be contacted by "my student" in about 2 weeks.  :)

me too!

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Jan 14th, 2005, 8:27pm
Me Too!

Kris

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Racer1_NC on Jan 15th, 2005, 12:41am
Me 3..........

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by nani on Jan 24th, 2005, 6:36pm
I heard from my student today. A charming young man named Jared.  :)

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Jan 24th, 2005, 8:45pm
I heard from mine too!

Thanks again, DJ - What a great opportunity for us as clusterheads, and for them as future pharmacists!

Kris

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by guesst on Feb 1st, 2005, 11:29am
Just had "first contact" with mine today.  Yasmin.  ;;D

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by nani on Feb 1st, 2005, 12:42pm

on 02/01/05 at 11:29:20, guesst wrote:
Just had "first contact" with mine today.  Yasmin.  ;;D



:-X

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by guesst on Feb 1st, 2005, 12:44pm

on 02/01/05 at 12:42:56, nani wrote:
:-X

Oh, come on now, I wouldn't be mean to her on the first day.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by JDH on Feb 3rd, 2005, 8:57pm
I was contacted by Amanda today so I guess I'm in as well.

Jim

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Feb 7th, 2005, 9:49pm
I love my student.  She's inquisitive, interested in me as a person (as well as a sufferer), and empathetic as well.

How long do you think I should wait until introducing her to clusterbusters.com?  (just kidding)

Kris

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Mr. Happy on Feb 9th, 2005, 10:20pm

on 02/07/05 at 21:49:53, Kris_in_SJ wrote:
How long do you think I should wait until introducing her to clusterbusters.com?  

Plenty of time for that later, down the road. It all depends on the mindset of your student, too. Ought to be safe sticking to the Harvard study......keep it clinical and all.

Got to admit, lucked out with a good one this year. Perky, intelligent, inquisitive, and is looking into Kudzo research/treatments.  Luckily (???) she suffers from migraines, and is self motivated.

This is a cool program,
RJ

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Gator on Feb 18th, 2005, 1:24am
Well, I finally got an e-mail from my student.  The boy was full of questions as well he should be.  This ought to be fun.


Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Lizzie2 on Feb 21st, 2005, 3:33pm
Haven't received an email, but still hoping to get one at some point.  I really think it would help me as a nursing student and them as a pharmacy student!  We'll see!

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by vig on Feb 23rd, 2005, 3:30pm
I've had a conversation going with a student for a few weeks now...
Here's how this week's progressed:

Here's his part...
>             When you receive this email I hope that things are going well for you.  This week here at the pharmacy school has been much less stressful than the last three.  I found last week's email to be interesting because it gave me some insight into how you deal with your headaches at work.  You said that your small goal was not to have to tell anyone at work that you have a "condition".  You mentioned that some people have "noticed", but have you had to discuss your headaches with any of your coworkers?  You also mentioned that you use Imitrex injections to help with your headaches.  I am glad that you mentioned your medication because this week in class we talked about adverse drug reactions and side effects.  I wanted to ask you this week if you have ever experienced any type of side effect from the medication that you use for your headaches.  If you have experienced side effects, what have they been, and were they severe enough to make you stop using your medications? I hope that your week goes well and I am looking forward to your response.

My response...

Hello Joshua,
Hope you are having a good week... I am

two main points:
Work...
I ultimately had to tell my last boss my predicament.  I would occasionally have to dash off in the middle of a task to go and 'deal with it'.  If I didn't inform him, perhaps he might think I was dashing off to an affair, or to nurse a drug habit... So I told him the whole story and he was the good, understanding type, so all was cool.  A couple of my co-workers also knew the story and were great at helping cover for me if I had to 'ditch'.

Imitrex...
The first time I did a shot of Imitrex was at work, I had to skip off to the bathroom with the 'works'.  It's an auto injector and I had two shots worth.  I was shaking and in a lot of pain when I first accidentally fired the first shot across my shoulder and on to the wall.  OK go ahead and laugh.... I did. With my one good eye, I managed to reload it and then jam it into my thigh.... wow, now I know what the junkies are talking about with their rushes.... within seconds, my heart was racing... FAST... I thought my head was going to explode too.  LOTS of pressure on the top of my skull like it was going to open up.  I first thought I was going to die in the can.... like Elvis.  anyway, within a few minutes, all the symptoms subsided and the pain stopped too, so I was successful.

I've since learned that many people are ordered to take their first shot in the doctor's office in his presence, so they can be revived if there are similar problems.  Live and learn.  I also learned a technique for splitting the shots into thirds, or halves or quarters.  Insurance only allowed me 4 x 6mg shots per month.  I can get up to 8 attacks a day during this month, so ... do the math, I can at least get 12 shots a month if I split them up.  (uninsured shots cost $70 each)  And YES, I do reuse the needle on myself, 3 times each.  (the attached picture shows me giving myself a partial shot.  I've taken the autoinjector apart and I'm using a Q-Tip as the plunger.  Many of us use this technique.)  This also means that I have to pick and choose which attacks get medicated and which don't.  Some are worse than others and I try to save my limited Ammo for the 'good ones'.  (so when I shot the first shot across the room, I lost half a month's reserve of medicine.  Damn the insurance companies!)

Also, there is a lot of talk regarding Imitrex causing 'rebounds'.  Pardon the confusion with terminology.  I think rebound headaches are its own thing and not what clusterheads call rebound headaches, but I'll try to explain.  Often, the headaches/seizures come 2 hours apart, but not all the time.  When I take a shot of Imitrex, I KNOW i'll get another attack 2 hours later, but it bought me 2 hours.  Many times I'm in a meeting and I have to be 'on', so I'll take the shot and deal with the next headache 2 hours later when nobody's around.

My family has a history of heart trouble so I'm at risk for using Imitrex.  Some clusterheads can't use it at all because of risk of heart attack.  I believe there are similar receptors for Imitrex's activity in the heart as in the brain, so both areas get a 'lift' even though my heart doesn't need any additional 'lifting'.  The smaller doses (2mg vs 6mg) is a lot easier on my heart AND my head and the Imitrex is still effective at that dose.

back to your first question... medications and side effects.
The first medication I was prescribed for this was Elavil or Amitryptaline.... After about a week or so, it kicked in and worked.  But from the first day of taking it I was quite the zombie, and asleep, and well, ask my ex-, impotent... So I learned quickly that sometimes the medicine is worse than the condition, or I have to make a tough, crappy choice... Next when I was prescribed lithium and depakote and the doctor told me there'd be no side effects... I knew he was either being ignorant or deceitful.  I did NOT fill the prescriptions.

The adventure continues....

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Feb 23rd, 2005, 8:31pm
It's really interesting, isn't it.  These kids are obviously all on the same page with regards to the "week's lesson."

My student, however, asked about side effects of ANY meds I'd taken in the past that kept me from taking them again.  Because I had also mentioned costs of drugs, she also wanted to know if I had forgone any meds I really needed because of the cost.  She is seriously concerned about patients not getting the relief they need because of side effects or the cost of medications.

I think each of these students are as unique as all of us are in how they approach things.

As you said, Vig ... Let the adventure begin!

Kris    

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by nani on Mar 10th, 2005, 1:49pm
I didn't get my weekly question yet this week.  [smiley=huh.gif]     Did anyone else?

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by vig on Mar 10th, 2005, 2:08pm
If I'm not mistaken, they're on spring break this week.
Probably gettin' drunk and goin' wild....

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Gator on Mar 10th, 2005, 4:00pm
I haven't gotten an e-mail this week, either.  I hadn't thought about Spring Break as my kids don't start theirs until Friday.


Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Lizzie2 on Mar 10th, 2005, 4:52pm

on 03/10/05 at 14:08:12, vig wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, they're on spring break this week.
Probably gettin' drunk and goin' wild....


I'm on spring break this week, but not getting drunk or going wild!  Man...I need to get a life!  Instead, I had surgery and 2 or 3 doctors appts and a brief stay in the hospital!  haha  What a party!!!   [smiley=headbanger.gif]

I was really looking forward to having a student because like I've said above, I think it would also benefit me as a nursing student, but I never got contacted by anyone.  I guess I contacted them a little too late!  If anyone hears that a student is in need of someone else to contact, too...or wants to "chat" with a 2nd clusterhead (I don't know the rules of their class, though...)...give them my name!  

In the meantime, I think this program is terrific and it's great to read the stories!

Hugz,
L2 :)

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Mar 11th, 2005, 8:21pm
Actually, they are on break this week.  My student is visiting her family in South Carolina.

Did you guys get asked to put a "price tag" on your disease?  I thought this was a particularly interesting question and wasn't quite sure what it meant.  How much would I pay NOT to have it, or how much I pay to HAVE it?  Both answers are off the chart financially!  LOL

Kris

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Lizzie2 on Mar 11th, 2005, 8:52pm
One hospital stay...basic charges....$95,000.

Basically without insurance, I'd be a dead girl...


Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Gator on Mar 15th, 2005, 5:59am

on 03/11/05 at 20:21:52, Kris_in_SJ wrote:
Actually, they are on break this week.  My student is visiting her family in South Carolina.

Did you guys get asked to put a "price tag" on your disease?  I thought this was a particularly interesting question and wasn't quite sure what it meant.  How much would I pay NOT to have it, or how much I pay to HAVE it?  Both answers are off the chart financially!  LOL

Kris


The question Lloyd, my student, asked was:


Quote:
I am interested in understanding what you would consider the most significant or bothersome aspect of your illness?  What do you think that your illness has cost you?
 

I took this to mean cost in loss of self esteem, livelihood, social life, etc.

I suppose if I was wrong, he'll tell me next week.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Mar 15th, 2005, 7:58pm
I'm guessing our students each had a different "take" on how to ask about "cost".  My student actually asked me to put a price tag on my illness.  I basically said that when I'm in cycle, I'd sell my house, cash in everything else I own, etc. just to be out of pain.  

I'm still fascinated by the project and am so glad to be a part of it.  Hope I'm helping future clusterheads in some little way.

Kris
 

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Lizzie2 on Mar 15th, 2005, 8:35pm
I did finally get an email the other night!!  It was an introduction email, and I responded to it yesterday.  I'm excited and looking forward to continuing communication with my student!  This is exciting and fun! :)

L2 :)

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Mar 15th, 2005, 8:49pm
Good for you Lizzie!

It's good fun, good education for our students (and others), and hopefully will produce good results for all of us in the future.

Kris

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Gator on Apr 19th, 2005, 1:22am
Anyone else having e-mail kicked back saying invalid user?

I have used two different e-mail accounts to send e-mail to my student and to Christian Dolder and they all get kicked back.


Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Apr 19th, 2005, 8:15pm
I haven't had that happen yet, Gator.  But, I also didn't get an email this week!  Is it another school break?  Did I freak her out?  This is highly unusual!

Kris

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by nani on Apr 20th, 2005, 12:17am
Me either, Mike. I got my question yesterday. It asked about alternative and herbal treatments. He knew about my kudzu use, and also asked specifically about that.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Gator on Apr 21st, 2005, 1:19am

on 04/19/05 at 01:22:10, Gator wrote:
Anyone else having e-mail kicked back saying invalid user?

I have used two different e-mail accounts to send e-mail to my student and to Christian Dolder and they all get kicked back.



I think I got it.  We were discussing drug ads on television.  He mentioned several in his e-mail to me and I named one in my reply.  Their spam filters saw the drug names and bounced the e-mails back as spam.  

I went back and replaced all the drug names with an underline _____ and re-sent it and it didn't get kicked back to me.

Seems a rather stupid thing for a pharmacy school to filter out drug names.

Anyways, we are back in business.


Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Lizzie2 on Apr 21st, 2005, 11:07am
I have received a bunch of emails from my student (5 or 6 total), but I've not been the best responder with my own student status and all that's been going on.

Last night,  I did get an email about herbals and my opinions on them.  Good time to ask me, eh?  Right after I get out of the hospital after having an emergency surgery for what they suspect was caused by an herb.

I still have 2 others to respond to her.  I get them out as soon as I can.  I just feel bad that I can't get back sooner.  Sometimes I just don't have time to sit down and answer every question because I know it will take me awhile!  

She's great though. :)

Carrie :)

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by seasonalboomer on Apr 21st, 2005, 11:20am
Herb who? That b$st#ard!

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Zephrah on Apr 24th, 2005, 8:10pm
[smiley=laugh.gif]ROFLMAO! ;;D

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Gator on Apr 29th, 2005, 3:56am
Well, looks like the fun is over.  I really enjoyed participating in this and will definitely do it again.


Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by ClusterChuck on Apr 29th, 2005, 6:50am
I am such a dipstick!!!  How did I forget or miss this thread???  Anyhow, the following is what I posted on the GENERAL area of the board:

I submitted my name to work with the students at Wingate University School of Pharmacy, when asked on this or the OUCH board.  It was fun and rather informative to work with a pharmacy student.  My student said that the term is almost over, and she will not be sending her weekly questions to me, anymore.  What a shame!  It was fun.

I asked her how the class evaluated the experience, and if most of the patients, that they were working with, continued through the whole semester.  Thellowing is her answer and thought I would pass it on, so that those that were involved can read it.  And hopefully if we are asked again, people would be willing to get involved.

QUOTE:
Hi, Chuck!  I’m glad that you enjoyed our communication this semester.  
Like I said, we can continue to stay in touch if you would like.

You’re responses greatly affected my grade because you gave me well
informed and real life experiences to share with my fellow classmates.  
You allowed me to share information almost every class.  I learned a
great deal from you this semester.  I am relieved that after those
initial years you were able to become knowledgeable about your condition
and found a healthcare provider that respects your opinions.

Overall, the class enjoyed this interaction with their patient.  We all
became more informed on how patients’ deal with their conditions and
what they need from their healthcare providers.  There were several of
us who had a patient suffering from cluster headaches.  Most of our
patients said very similar things regarding the treatment and the
explanation of how the pain feels.  Actually, one cluster headache
patient claimed that they are completely headache free!

Overall, all of the patients responded for the full semester and
provided thorough responses.  I am sure that this class be taught to the
next incoming class.  It offers us an opportunity to learn how to
communicate with our patients.

Thank you and I wish you the best in overcoming the cluster headaches!


UNQUOTE

Chuck

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by vig on Sep 8th, 2005, 8:20am
I just received this:
=======================
Dear Paul,

Greetings from the Wingate University School of Pharmacy in North Carolina!  Last year you kindly volunteered to be an e-patient with one of our first year pharmacy students (Josh Steelman). I am in the process of recruiting new patients for our upcoming Electronic Patient Interaction program this spring. I am hoping to use a few “veteran” e-patients in our upcoming class. Josh highly recommended you so I wanted to ask you if you would be willing to serve as an e-patient again this year. Please do not feel obligated in any way.

Thanks,

Christian

Christian Dolder, PharmD, BCPS
Assistant Professor
Wingate University School of Pharmacy
====================

Time to sign up again.
Let's educate the pharmacists.
Every little bit helps.

They may be looking for more volunteers before they get started again in January, so for those of you that didn't get an chance last time, you may want to do it.  It's a great opportunity.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by nani on Sep 8th, 2005, 8:23am
I just did! I mentioned that it's too bad Med schools don't have a similar program for future MDs.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Sep 8th, 2005, 8:59am
I was invited again also.  Wouldn't miss it for the world.  I hope I enjoy this year's student as much as the last one.

Kris

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Racer1_NC on Sep 8th, 2005, 12:08pm

on 09/08/05 at 08:59:54, Kris_in_SJ wrote:
I was invited again also.  Wouldn't miss it for the world.  I hope I enjoy this year's student as much as the last one.

Kris


Same here.....

Bill

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by E-Double on Sep 8th, 2005, 5:26pm
I emailed the dude.....

Shall wait and see :)

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by marlinsfan on Sep 13th, 2005, 8:50pm
I just wrote the guy too. I told him about CH and my back surgery. WIll let you all know if I'm "accepted".

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by marlinsfan on Sep 14th, 2005, 3:17pm
I heard back today and I've been recruited. The program starts in January.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Sep 14th, 2005, 7:18pm
You won't regret it Marlinsfan.  Don't know if you were part of the class last year, but it's a great learning experience for the students, and one for us also.

I feel really lucky to be part of educating future pharmacists.

Kris

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Gator on Oct 7th, 2005, 10:07pm
I'm in again this time as well.  I really enjoyed it last time and my student and I really hit it off well.  

I definitely recommend participating in this program.


Mike

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by joke ten dam on Oct 31st, 2005, 3:50pm
I was paired with a great student last time around.  She was very bright, asked alot of iwel thought questions.  She realy tried to understand what I went through.  A very good  experience.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by marlinsfan on Nov 15th, 2005, 1:42pm
I got an e-mail from Dr. Dolder today, the program starts Jan 15.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by E-Double on Nov 15th, 2005, 6:47pm

on 11/15/05 at 13:42:29, marlinsfan wrote:
I got an e-mail from Dr. Dolder today, the program starts Jan 15.


Me2 E2

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by broomhilda on Nov 15th, 2005, 9:28pm

on 11/15/05 at 18:47:16, E-Double wrote:
Me2 E2

Me3, looking forward to participating!

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by vig on Nov 16th, 2005, 6:10pm
there are still 5-10 backup slots to fill...

don't be shy, step up to the plate...

please reply to:
cdolder@nugold.wingate.edu

Christian Dolder, PharmD, BCPS

Assistant Professor
Wingate University School of Pharmacy

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Gator on Nov 17th, 2005, 8:54am
Come on folks!  This is a great opportunity to help cultivate a new generation of CH knowledgeable pharmacists and help out your fellow clusterheads.  

You never know, one of these grads may be YOUR next pharmacist!


Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Nov 17th, 2005, 7:44pm
Bump to Gator ...

A great program.  This is one professor with his eye firmly fixed on the patient rather then just the chemicals that make up the prescriptions.

Kris

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by broomhilda on Nov 17th, 2005, 10:28pm
If there is not enough participants I will happily post this on the Canadian side as well!

Come on this will be beneficial to so many out there!

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Jan 13th, 2006, 9:09pm
I was contacted by my student for this year - Georgiania.

She's very formal so far - and obviously a little bit intimidated by the semester.  My goals ... first, to get her to know me as a person ... second, to get her to know the pain of cluster headache sufferers ... third, to teach her as much as I can in one semester about the syndrome, treatments (accepted and alternative), and third, to learn as much as I can from her, as well.

If experience repeats itself, I'll not be learning anything, but I will be helping develop empathy and understanding with a future pharmacist.  I LOVE this program!!!!

Kris

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by E-Double on Jan 15th, 2006, 10:36pm
Awaiting my pupil ;;D

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by marlinsfan on Jan 15th, 2006, 10:59pm
I exchanged e-mails with Kyle today. Classes are 8 am on thursdays, that's about all he said.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by E-Double on Feb 4th, 2006, 10:47pm
Still have not heard a thing

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Racer1_NC on Feb 5th, 2006, 9:51am
I'm on my 3 email with my new student.....

Bill

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by nani on Feb 5th, 2006, 10:58am

on 02/05/06 at 09:51:20, Racer1_NC wrote:
I'm on my 3 email with my new student.....

Bill


Me, too. I got another great one.  :)  
You guys must've got the slackers, LOL.  ;)

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by E-Double on Feb 5th, 2006, 11:05am

on 02/05/06 at 10:58:09, nani wrote:
Me, too. I got another great one.  :)  
You guys must've got the slackers, LOL.  ;)


I emailed Dolder to see what's up.
This teacher will give them an F [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by vig on Feb 5th, 2006, 7:27pm
CHanging people's view of CH, one pharmacist at a time.

;;D

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Gator on Feb 6th, 2006, 1:38am
Just answered #4 with my student.  I think this is a great program.  I wish that medical schools for doctors would do something like this.  



Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by chewy on Feb 6th, 2006, 12:15pm
I worked with a student through the last semester and would be willing to do so again. Do you need to re-apply? I really dont remember the process.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by E-Double on Feb 6th, 2006, 3:06pm
I'm a reserve

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by broomhilda on Feb 6th, 2006, 9:19pm

on 02/06/06 at 15:06:16, E-Double wrote:
I'm a reserve

Whats that mean? I am thouroughly enjoying weekly e mails from my student, sounds like a truly interesting program and I am happy to participate!

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by E-Double on Feb 6th, 2006, 9:46pm

on 02/06/06 at 21:19:31, broomhilda wrote:
Whats that mean? I am thouroughly enjoying weekly e mails from my student, sounds like a truly interesting program and I am happy to participate!

Here's what he wrote me

Quote:
Hi Eric,



I want to apologize for any confusion I may have caused. The e-patient course began a few weeks ago. I have enrolled a handful of “reserve” e-patients because when our course starts up there are always a few students that have to be reassigned a new patient. You have been placed on the “reserve” list and are currently the patient to be assigned. I was planning to send out an e-mail at the end of this week explaining the situation but wanted to wait because I have 2 or 3 students that will likely need to receive their new e-patient in the next few days.



Sincerely,



Christian

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by E-Double on Feb 8th, 2006, 8:05pm
:) Just got mine ;;D

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Feb 24th, 2006, 7:49pm
Though I think I have a pretty good connection with my student this time, have not gotten a question for the week.  Are they on break?  Does anyone know?

Kris

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by nani on Feb 24th, 2006, 9:45pm
They had a big test today. I'm guessing you'll get your question over the weekend.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by jon019 on Mar 15th, 2006, 9:47pm
Hello All,

Sign up, sign up, sign up! Having a great experience with "my" student. She gets it and I am gently educating her on our "problem". Nothing like connecting with someone who will be there for any clusterhead she
encounters.

regards

Jon

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by vig on Apr 18th, 2006, 11:14am
looks like another semester has come and gone...
another batch of 'educated' pharmacists have passed through us.

SUCCESS!

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Apr 18th, 2006, 7:55pm
I think I'm way too sensitive.  I once again had a great connection with my student - good communication throughout.  Aren't they allowed to say goodbye?

Mine didn't, and I don't feel like I had closure.  

However, I'd certainly participate again next year.  What a great program!

Kris

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by E-Double on Apr 18th, 2006, 8:07pm
Mine was fantastic!!!

I surely enjoyed the exchange.

I hope she turns out to be as compassionate of an apothacary that she is as a student.

Wonderful!!!

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Gator on Apr 19th, 2006, 3:01pm
This time, mine was always fairly professional and detached.  He asked questions and thanked me for my answers, but didn't really ineract much.  And if it's over, mine didn't say goodbye either, Kris.  Oh, well.  At least he participated and I think he got something out of it.



Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Apr 19th, 2006, 8:00pm
Because I'm a believer in positive feedback, I emailed Dr. Dolder to tell him how much I appreciate being part of this program, and how much good it is doing for tomorrow's pharmacists.

I also mentioned (in a subtle way of course) that it would be nice if his students sent one last email saying thank you and goodbye.

I guess we'll have to wait until next year to find out if it worked.

Kris

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by broomhilda on Apr 19th, 2006, 9:00pm
It was a true pleasure to be involved and hopefully making a difference, I am confident the student I had will be empathetic, educated and supportive for sure! I hope you all get a chance to say goodbye for some closure, I just received mine this evening so perhaps its on its way! ;;D

I hope we can all participate again next year!

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by nani on Apr 20th, 2006, 12:27am
My student, Brian, is going to be an excellent pharmacist! I'm actually going to miss him quite a bit.  :-/

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by Racer1_NC on Apr 20th, 2006, 12:37am

on 04/18/06 at 20:07:18, E-Double wrote:
Mine was fantastic!!!

I surely enjoyed the exchange.

I hope she turns out to be as compassionate of an apothacary that she is as a student.

Wonderful!!!


Ditto here as well.....

Great program....as long as I can type, I'll volunteer.

Bill

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by AussieBrian on Apr 23rd, 2006, 8:58pm
Yep, that was a lot of fun and can only serve to make the world a better place.  My student not only wrote to say thank you and farewell he said if ever I need any help or information in the future just to contact him.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by marlinsfan on Apr 24th, 2006, 2:47pm
Last e-mail I got was the week before Easter. Haven't heard from mine since, and now I'm reading it's over? Didn't get a goodbye note, so I'm with Gator & Kris.

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by jon019 on Sep 17th, 2006, 9:21pm
They are asking for volunteers again. Want a chance to interact with the pharmacists of the future who will be dispensing for you or yours. Here's your opportunity...

Regards

Jon

Title: Re: Wingate Univ. School of Pharmacy
Post by andrewjb on Sep 20th, 2006, 8:16pm
could the rewarding contact with "wingate univ" be used to develope contact with a "doctors" teaching hospital ? this is a great site. andrew.



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