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(Message started by: amen on Feb 25th, 2004, 2:57pm)

Title: Migraine sufferers
Post by amen on Feb 25th, 2004, 2:57pm
Hello, I have a question for migraine sufferers.  I know this is not a migraine site, but I also know that many of you suffer both.  My sister in-law has been having migraines pretty bad lately.  This last one has lasted 4 days.  Today she is throwing up.  What should she take???  Any info would be great.
Thanks
Andrea

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Gena on Feb 25th, 2004, 3:02pm
My sister-in-law also suffers rom migrains -

She uses zomig or imitrex


Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Belle on Feb 25th, 2004, 3:04pm
Hey there Andrea!

My mother suffers from horrific migraine's too and they usually last 3 days or so if untreated.  Nothing over the counter works for her.  My dad will take her down to the hosptital to get a shot of demerol and graval(sp?) in the but and she usually feels relief within  mins or so.  Hope she feels better soon.

Belle
::)

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by amen on Feb 25th, 2004, 3:10pm
Thanks guys!  She went to the Dr. today and he gave here Immitrex.  the problem is that she is afraid to take it because the Dr. told her it could make her sick and since she is already sick, she doesn't want to waste it.  She is not sure how much longer she will have insurance.  I told her, she is probably sick because of the migraine and its worth a try.  I feel horrible for her.  She is also my babysitter.  She is dealing with this and has my 2 and 4 year old following her around and wanting to "take care of her".  
Will the Immitrex make her sick?
Andrea

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jonny on Feb 25th, 2004, 3:30pm
Me thinks this link will help you more than this board, good luck.

http://www.migraines.org/

.......................jonny

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by pubgirl on Feb 25th, 2004, 4:11pm

I use the same stuff as I use for my Ch now (makes life easier and it works)
Imigran, Zomig, 02 (not all together of course)

Wendy

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Woobie on Feb 25th, 2004, 4:53pm
she should go to the ER and get one of those shots that make you stop throwing up - then take the imitrex.    You're right - there's NO point taking it until she stops getting sick.    But, WHY would the doctor give her imitrex, and not give her something to stop the vomiting..... geesh.

You said she wont have her insurance much longer.... so that means she STILL has it??    If so, get her to the ER and get that shot.. 4 days is enough.  

hope she feels better
Tina

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by don on Feb 25th, 2004, 5:13pm
I think the best advice is that given by Jonny.

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Lizzie2 on Feb 25th, 2004, 5:16pm
Migraines that last longer than 72 hours need some kind of treatment because there are possibly some dangerous consequences to an intractable migraine.  However, I've had a migraine for over 3 years...some intractable migraines just won't budge.

Imitrex for some migraineurs is a bad med because the half-life of imitrex is short, and the relapse rate for the migraine headache can be high for many people.  Other triptans are longer acting...drawing a blank on which ones act the longest, but I know that frova is one.

DHE is very effective for migraine.  Narcotics really only mask the pain.  If the migraine is gone after the narcotics wear off, it is generally because the migraine has run its course.  Otherwise when the narcs wear off, the migraine will be back.

I use thorazine and DHE as migraine abortives, and I take ultracet for pain (which is a combo of muscle relaxant and acetaminophen).  My new doctor wants to eventually find me a combination of a NSAID, a triptan, and an anti-nausea.  The anti nausea's most used for migraine are phenergan, compazine, and zofran.  It is often very standard for migraineurs to get a combo shot of pain-killer and anti-nausea if they go to the ER.

I've got tons of info if you want more.  Also a helpful website is:
http://headaches.about.com
It is for all headache types, but there is TONS of info on migraine there.

Let me know if you want more info.
Hugz, Lizzie :)

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jonny on Feb 25th, 2004, 5:54pm
http://tinyurl.com/vack

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by athos on Feb 25th, 2004, 6:31pm

on 02/25/04 at 14:57:03, amen wrote:
Hello, I have a question for migraine sufferers.  I know this is not a migraine site, but I also know that many of you suffer both.  My sister in-law has been having migraines pretty bad lately.  This last one has lasted 4 days.  Today she is throwing up.  What should she take???  Any info would be great.
Thanks
Andrea



There are fantastic anti-nausea meds that can be prescribed....

Phenegren
Compozine
Vistoril

There are pills - that is if you can catch it soon enough...
Suppozitories
shots...

When I have to go tho the ER phenegren works the best... but it burns like battery acid....


I feel for her.... Suffering is suffering and I am sorry that she has to go through that...  I definate understand the puking part.




Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Karla on Feb 25th, 2004, 7:21pm
Imitrix does not make me sick at all.  In fact when I take it when I am sick and down with a migraine It makes me feel all better.  It takes away the nausea and helps me to function again.  

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Pinkfloyd on Feb 25th, 2004, 7:34pm
This "General Posts" section of the board is reserved for serious "family" issues such as, but not restricted to;
Tattoos
Computer repairs and virus protection
Current and future size & hardness of sexual organs
politics
Jokes
sexual dysfunction
dating services
musical inclinations
foreign film reviews
child rearing
and all pains NOT associated with migraine or any other headache type associated with, but not specifically diagnosed as, cluster headaches. Proper documentation must be produced upon request.

If you have an uncle that has a problem with gas, you can get plenty of advice here, as long as he doesn't have migraines.
Searching through endless threads on migraines will make it far to difficult to locate the masterbation threads.

That said:
The "about" site (which, by being mentioned previously, has actually broken the same law as the "do not remove this tag under penalty of law," law) is one of the best for up-to-date information, chat and links.

Also check out the usenet newsgroup;
alt.support.headaches.migraine

Dr. Robbins site;
http://www.headachedrugs.com/

and a few others that might be helpful;

http://www.meldrum.demon.co.uk/migraine/
http://www.migraines.org/
http://www.achenet.org/
http://www.headaches.org/
http://ahsnet.org/
http://www.w-h-a.org/wha2/index.asp
http://www.neuroland.com/


PF
(off to double check my virus protection  ;;D )

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by bobkip on Feb 25th, 2004, 7:50pm
Hi amen,
Yeah, meegraineurs do have it tough but this is not the proper forum for meegrain discussion. There are so many more sites deddicated to meegrains and I respecctfully suggest you direct your queries in that direction. I do respect your inquiry and hope your friend has recieved proper direction to a web site more specific to his/her problem.
Kip

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by BobG on Feb 25th, 2004, 7:57pm
LMAO. Thanks Pinkfloyd.

And there those that go on and on about an OUCH thing in Nashville and this ain't even the OUCH website.

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jonny on Feb 25th, 2004, 8:17pm
Hey Pink...If you got that much for meegraines why dont you go suuport their sites....cause this is a cluster site, do you need to read the front door again?

................................................jonny

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by don on Feb 25th, 2004, 9:32pm

Quote:
Yeah, meegraineurs do have it tough but this is not the proper forum for meegrain discussion. There are so many more sites deddicated to meegrains and I respecctfully suggest you direct your queries in that direction. I do respect your inquiry and hope your friend has recieved proper direction to a web site more specific to his/her problem.


Fucking DITTO !


Quote:
Tattoos
Computer repairs and virus protection
Current and future size & hardness of sexual organs
politics
Jokes
sexual dysfunction
dating services
musical inclinations
foreign film reviews
child rearing


To the best of my knowledge none of those issues will further confuse anyone about the proper distintions between Meegraine and Clusterheadache. You know the distinction we've all worked to promote  so there is no confusion and CHers get appropriate diagnosis and treatment?  Yeah thats the one.

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Kevin_M on Feb 25th, 2004, 10:19pm

on 02/25/04 at 14:57:03, amen wrote:
 What should she take???  Any info would be great.
Thanks
Andrea


Sorry to hear about the pain.

My grains? I take oats, rye and barley.  Some here will include wheat.  Also, try mixing with off the shelf additives like bananas, blueberries and cinnamon.

Cluster sharing, as might be expected, about my grains.

Hope that helps.

Kevin M



Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Pinkfloyd on Feb 26th, 2004, 2:00am
[smiley=laugh.gif]
Stop it...!! You guys are killing me here!!!  [smiley=laugh.gif]


on 02/25/04 at 20:17:16, jonny wrote:
Hey Pink...If you got that much for meegraines why dont you go suuport their sites....cause this is a cluster site, do you need to read the front door again?

................................................jonny


Yeah, I tried that John but they threw me out for talking about clusters!! Whats a guy to do!!!



on 02/25/04 at 21:32:28, don wrote:
You know the distinction we've all worked to promote  so there is no confusion and CHers get appropriate diagnosis and treatment?  Yeah thats the one.


Did ya ever think that to be able to make a clear distinction between two things, you must evaluate not only the differences but also the similarities of both. To do that, one must actually discuss and investigate both?

Kindly explain to me how the people that actually offered words of advice other than URL's, added to the confusion between diagnosing clusters and diagnosing migraines?

Kindly explain to me how a few words of advice on how to remove some pain from the life of a relative of a member here, adds to the confusion in treating cluster headaches?

Did one of the many doctors posting here get confused?

You guys can take your time on the replies because I have to go visit the migraine sites and I'll be busy for a while.

A few words to someone about migraines does not confuse the issues above, any more than offering a few words of support to someone regarding any other issue discussed here.


PF
Now, where the hell is that door???

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Charlie on Feb 26th, 2004, 2:07am
What have I missed here? Andrea or someone there has posted here more than 80 times. So far I haven't been badly affected.

Funny stuff Pink  ;;D

Charlie

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Lizzie2 on Feb 26th, 2004, 7:01am
Pink, I enjoyed your posts! :)


on 02/25/04 at 14:57:03, amen wrote:
Hello, I have a question for migraine sufferers.  I know this is not a migraine site, but I also know that many of you suffer both.  My sister in-law has been having migraines pretty bad lately.  This last one has lasted 4 days.  Today she is throwing up.  What should she take???  Any info would be great.
Thanks
Andrea


First off...Andrea stated that she knows this isn't a migraine site, but she knows that some of us suffer from both.  Well...that's true...MANY of us suffer from both.  I don't see what the problem is with her request.  Also, she's asking for information from people she trusts.  Sometimes it is hard to jump right in on another message board and ask for help when you haven't really spent a lot of time reading and learning what it's like there.

And then there's this issue of why you guys hate people with migraines so much.  If you don't, at least know that that is the image you are putting across.  Constantly calling them "meegraines" and blasting to hell anyone who mentions them.

I'm aware that there are many of you who are extremely bitter over the fact that it took your doctors a long time to diagnose you with clusters, and that they were called migraines for many of you, as well.  WELL, shouldn't your bitterness and anger be directed at those doc's who misdiagnosed you?  Why do you feel the need to be so bitter and angry against other people suffering in a great amount of pain.  Pain sucks, any way you slice it.  Just because one pain may be worse than another does not mean we should act like another's pain is worthless and not important.  To THAT person, they are experiencing their worst form of pain.  You can find whiners and people with great amounts of strength suffering from any kind of pain out there.  So the attitude that migraineurs are whiny and their suffering is worthless and stupid is very troubling.

Sorry if this post offends anyone, but I just feel that the discriminatory and belittling attitude is a little over the top.  I suffer from both migraines and clusters...does that mean I'm supposed to never talk about how the migraines affect my life, too, and only discuss clusters?  Pink is right...other people discuss the other medical problems they are having.  My migraines and clusters do have a few similarities, but also many many differences.  I'm well aware of that, and I don't think that discussing how both affect my life blurs any lines of distinction.

Lizzie

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by pubgirl on Feb 26th, 2004, 7:49am
Well said Lizzie! You won't change their minds though. ;;D

Despite what people here think, we have a lot to thank proactive migraine sufferers and their doctors and research staff for as many of our treatments came from them.

Instead of being divisive and exclusive and sticking in our "we've got clusters" mentality, perhaps we should realise that we can gain by talking to Migraine groups and sufferers. We do here, and I draw your attention to a thread on the "Clusterheadache specific" board where it was being claimed that the reduction in CH diagnosis time in the UK was down to DJ and ch.com (DJ wasn't claiming this btw it was being claimed for him ;;D)


on 02/25/04 at 04:35:50, MOBster wrote:
Hey lets give credit where it is due here folks. Check the dates guys.

This was a survey of UK data on the 90's. Most of it was long before CH.Com and OUCH of any variety.

The patient groups in question were the Migraine Action Association (formerly BMA) and to lesser extent the Migraine Trust who have both been helping CH sufferers for longer than any other organisation.

Best Wishes,

Michael (MOB)


Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Kevin_M on Feb 26th, 2004, 8:16am

on 02/26/04 at 02:00:02, Pinkfloyd wrote:

Did one of the many doctors posting here get confused?


I do apologize for not being completely accurate.

I forgot to mention the walnuts.

I shall quote the prescription from the original doctor's book:

So I took those eggs home and I frizzled 'em up.
And I added some sugar.  Two thirds of a cup.
And a small pinch of pepper.  And also a pound
Of horseradish sauce that was sitting around.
And also some nuts.
Then I tasted the stuff
And it tasted quite fine,
But not quite fine enough.
                      -Dr. Seuss
"Scrambled Eggs Super"

As I understand it, the eggs are the certain ingredient which he says are the secret.  All told, it involves the eggs of a Mop-Noodled Finch, Beagle-Beaked-Bald-Headed Grinch, Shade-Roosting Quail, a Spritz, a Flannel-Wing Jay, Twiddler Owls, a Kweet, a Wog (that only eats blossoms from Beezlenut Trees.

There are others, but the good doctor goes on and to not confuse anyone, I suggest the book.

Hope that helps.

Kevin M

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Kevin_M on Feb 26th, 2004, 8:32am

on 02/25/04 at 14:57:03, amen wrote:
Hello, I have a question for migraine sufferers.  I know this is not a migraine site,


Were I to ask about my grains here, I would might EXPECT replies of varying sincerity.  

Kevin M

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by don on Feb 26th, 2004, 9:28am

Quote:
Why do you feel the need to be so bitter and angry against other people suffering in a great amount of pain


We are not. We are simply protecting the only common CLUSTER ground we have. There are hundreds of Migraine sites.

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Margi on Feb 26th, 2004, 9:40am
very sad to see Don's name in black now, denoting "Guest" status.  WTF is that??  :(

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by amen on Feb 26th, 2004, 10:34am
Thanks for all of your replies.  to clear a few things up:
First of all- I did not post this under CH specific, for the very reason that I was not asking about CH.  I posted under "General" because I had a "General" question regarding migraines.
Second: I was asking for my relative here because she JUST got a computer and I am sure that she hasn't had the chance to do any research herself yet.
Third: When the doctor prescribed her the meds, she wasn't throwing up yet.
Fourth: thanks to all of those who stood up for me, I expected some negative feedback from some.  I have been around this site long enough to know to expect that from some.  It doesn't bother me.
Sixth: Just so you guys don't think I am cruel, I should clear up the fact that my brother was home with her and I did not leave her alone to care for my kids while she was in this condition.
And now for her update: she took the Immitrex and she did not throw it up.  It gave her some relief but it was short lived.  She is still in pain today, but not throwing up and the pain is not as severe.
I will check out some of the links you guys gave and I will pass the information on to her so she can do some research herself when she is feeling up to it.
Thanks again to everyone and I wish you all PF days.

Andrea

P.S.  Kevin OMG  [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=crackup.gif]

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Lizzie2 on Feb 26th, 2004, 3:36pm
OK Just so's you know....

The about.com site is for ALL headache types.  It is not a migraine sanctuary.  There are many cluster sufferers who post there.  People who post there also have various kinds of migraines, tension headaches, post-meningitis headaches, post-concussion headaches.  It's for one and all.

Same with achenet.org.  Cluster sufferers there, migraine, post-traumatic headaches, chronic daily...lots of stuff.

Don't know about other sites because the main ones I spend time on are those and this one.

Smiles,
Lizzie :)

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jonny on Feb 26th, 2004, 3:44pm
Below is the front door to CH.COM, DJ put it on this site as the front door for a reason......It explains its self.

"This site is devoted completely and exclusively to those that suffer from, and to the supporters of those who suffer from Cluster Headaches!"

.................................jonny

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by stuey on Feb 26th, 2004, 3:57pm
Wow that was some kind of read.

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jonny on Feb 26th, 2004, 4:00pm

on 02/26/04 at 15:57:17, stuey wrote:
Wow that was some kind of read.


Why dont you find the page and read the whole thing, Stu...and after that if you have a problem you can take it up with the guy that wrote it.

..................................jonny

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by amen on Feb 26th, 2004, 4:16pm
Jonny, this may be hard for you to take, but here it goes.   I know you like to try and run the show around here BUT....  If DJ has a problem with my GENERAL question on the GENERAL board, then he can ask me to leave.  Otherwise, you are stuck with me ;;D
I don't scare that easy.  I know you are a great supporter of this website and I think that is wonderful.  If you don't like this thread, then don't read it. ;;D
Just as some of your very harsh post come from the heart, so does this one.
Love ya guys and PF days to everyone.
Thanks
Andrea ::)

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Lizzie2 on Feb 26th, 2004, 4:24pm

on 02/26/04 at 15:44:38, jonny wrote:
Below is the front door to CH.COM, DJ put it on this site as the front door for a reason......It explains its self.

"This site is devoted completely and exclusively to those that suffer from, and to the supporters of those who suffer from Cluster Headaches!"

.................................jonny


Last I checked, Andrea does suffer from clusters!!  She's just asking a "general" question...as she said.  I believe every post here was made by someone who suffers from clusters or someone who supports a person suffering from CH.

Does the door say, "No posts shall be made about any other headache type...EVER"? (even if it's coming from a clusterhead or supporter)

Smiles,
Lizzie  ::)

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jzakhar on Feb 26th, 2004, 4:34pm

on 02/26/04 at 16:00:20, jonny wrote:
Why dont you find the page and read the whole thing, Stu...and after that if you have a problem you can take it up with the guy that wrote it.

..................................jonny


I did, and here is what I found.

Familiarize yourself with the message board

It's probably a good idea to watch the Message Board for a bit before you post. Expecting nothing but technical discussions on the board? Ooops! Sorry. We are a family. We talk about everything. Some serious, some silly, some downright ridiculous. Lots of us find that laughter helps ease the emotional difficulties of dealing with a debilitating, permanent disorder that has no cure, no know cause and no truly effective treatments. But others prefer to confine their comments to serious discussions. There is plenty of room here for all. You can read every post or learn to skip over those that don't fit your wants and needs. Frequent posters, and we have many, tend to reveal much about their personalities in their posts. You are likely to find someone who you can relate to. Some of us are self-proclaimed analytical types, who tend toward serious discussions of a technical or scientific nature. Others are in the "touchy-feely" style, usually staying out of the analytical discussions but always quick to offer support, words of encouragement and a shoulder to cry on.


So while this:  
Quote:
"This site is devoted completely and exclusively to those that suffer from, and to the supporters of those who suffer from Cluster Headaches!"

is true.

It looks like there is room for other types of conversation. In fact it also looks like you can skip over the threads you dont't like by not ever clicking on them to begin with!

But in all seriousness to belittle someone with "meegraines" is about the most childish thing i've seen in a long time. Especially from people that know what it's like to hear "oh just take a tylenol and tough it out".

I could go on and on here jonny, it's very easy to make fun of people on an anonymous forum. And you're an easy target.
But i'm not here to do that, I thought we were all here as friends and to support each other... Maybe I was wrong, just let me know...

John

 

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Charlie on Feb 26th, 2004, 4:36pm
I still don't get this. Looks to me like we've welcomed her before. Must be lots of supportive posts or something.

Regular migrainers don't stay. They go away after a few posts. No need to tar and feather them and run them out of town.

Charlie

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jonny on Feb 26th, 2004, 4:39pm

on 02/26/04 at 16:16:17, amen wrote:
 Otherwise, you are stuck with me ;;D
I don't scare that easy.  
Andrea ::)


Do you really think im trying to scare you?

Do you think im trying to drive you away?

If you answer yes to either one you better re-read what I wrote.

Sorry Liz, but this place will never be a place were ANY headache is a topic for discussion.

...............................jonny

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jonny on Feb 26th, 2004, 4:45pm

on 02/26/04 at 16:34:25, jzakhar wrote:
I did, and here is what I found.

 


I think you forgot this part John ;;D


This site is devoted completely and exclusively to those that suffer from, and to the supporters of those who suffer from Cluster Headaches!

There are a few other sites out there dealing with Cluster Headaches, but no real place to "interact" with other Cluster sufferers.  There are a few message boards where you can read posts dealing with Cluster Headaches, but sorting through all the migrane, tension, and other headache posts to find the few about Clusters is enough to bring on a headache!

Never again will you have to search, hour upon hour, for information on Cluster Headaches!  You now have a place to "hang out" that you can call our very own.  You now have a place to "vent" when you wake up at 3 a.m. with a headache, the oxygen tank is empty, and you're out of Imitrex!  

Finally...a place where you can talk to someone about how horrible your headaches are and know that they really do understand your pain.


Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by bobkip on Feb 26th, 2004, 4:45pm
Bitter? Angry? Nope. But suggesting people who suffer from migraines seek advice elsewhere is just plain sense.
Kip

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jzakhar on Feb 26th, 2004, 4:53pm
You're right jonny, I did miss it. Because it is no where to be found on http://www.clusterheadaches.com/newvisitors.html

However message board usage is clearly listed there.

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jonny on Feb 26th, 2004, 4:59pm
http://clusterheadaches.com/

Maybe you puter can handle this link, John....LMMFAO

The FRONT door!!.....DUH!!!! ;;D

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jzakhar on Feb 26th, 2004, 5:08pm
And when you click the big blue enter button at the bottom which page does it take you to jonny?

The basic information for the site/board right ?

And at the second link on the page for new visitors.

http://www.clusterheadaches.com/newvisitors.html#familiarize

we have the information on the message board..

We talk about everything. Some serious, some silly, some downright ridiculous.

For reference: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=everything

And then 3 sentences down we have: There is plenty of room here for all. You can read every post or learn to skip over those that don't fit your wants and needs.







Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by amen on Feb 26th, 2004, 5:11pm
Jonny, If I really thought you were trying to SCARE me i wouldn't have posted that with the smiley's.  I actually enjoy bantering with you ::) ;)  i got the info I needed, along with some that I did not really need, but enjoyed reading.  That's what family is all about right?!
I am sure that DJ appreciate's your abilities to be a bouncer at this site.  Makes less work for him [smiley=laugh.gif]  I can take the good with the bad, I too have a choice, if I don't like what you have to say, I don't have to read it right!?  ;)  But I do anyway because you keep things pretty lively around here.
PF days to all
Andrea
P.S to Charlie- yes most of my 80+ post were welcoming and supporting new people.  I myself have been PF since December.  I mostly lurk and check in every now and then just to see how everyone is doing and to offer some support.  I am not as educated as most are here so I try not to offer too much advice, just support.

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jonny on Feb 26th, 2004, 5:19pm
Thanks for being a good sport, Andrea ;;D

John, "Everything" does not and will never mean "Every headache"......Now take your 20 posts and shove them up your ass.......LOL

Have a nice day ;;D

.....................................jonny

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jzakhar on Feb 26th, 2004, 5:30pm
Personal attacks are usually a sign that the speaker has nothing intelligent left to say. But that would beg the question as to weather the speaker had anything intelligent to say to begin with.  ;;D


Quote:
John, "Everything" does not and will never mean "Every headache"......


I provided a link the first time so there would be no confusion:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=everything

did you miss it ? or are you just using your own definition now?  ::)

Anyway i'm done here, i've said everything I need to.  



Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Lizzie2 on Feb 26th, 2004, 5:33pm

on 02/26/04 at 16:39:03, jonny wrote:
Sorry Liz, but this place will never be a place were ANY headache is a topic for discussion.

...............................jonny


But what does this mean?  Not even CH?  To use Woobie's word (or maybe a modification of it cuz I forget what it is exactly!)...I'm confusdicated!

Lizzie  ;;D

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by pubgirl on Feb 26th, 2004, 5:40pm
Can we still talk about SUNCT, CPH etc. just not migraine?

I call that non-TACism! ;;D


Wendy

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jonny on Feb 26th, 2004, 5:50pm

on 02/26/04 at 17:30:20, jzakhar wrote:
Anyway i'm done here, i've said everything I need to.  


Thank God!!, Your "Im gonna tell you how shit should be run around here" attitude with only 21 posts under your belt has had me in a fit of laughter ;;D....Now I can breath again.

............................jonny

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jzakhar on Feb 26th, 2004, 5:59pm

on 02/26/04 at 17:50:38, jonny wrote:
Thank God!!, Your "Im gonna tell you how shit should be run around here" attitude with only 21 posts under your belt has had me in a fit of laughter ;;D....Now I can breath again.

............................jonny


Right cause that is what I was doing by refering to the SITE rules, sure thing champ.

I too am laughing, at you.. You're too easy to bait into an arguement. You should work on that. I am by your definition "a 20 post newb" and yet I can read you like an open book.

Shit man, you CANNOT even debate the merits of the arguement. It's just what you say goes. Too bad it's a public forum in which the very rules state you're wrong. But we can let that slide. I understand you wont be a man if you don't walk of this thread winning =)

.............................John  


Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Woobie on Feb 26th, 2004, 6:04pm

on 02/26/04 at 17:33:19, Lizzie2 wrote:
But what does this mean?  Not even CH?  To use Woobie's word (or maybe a modification of it cuz I forget what it is exactly!)...I'm confusdicated!

Lizzie  ;;D



coRNfusdicated... (i'm from Iowa)

just here to help [smiley=laugh.gif]
tina


PS   STOP BICKERING!!!   geesh!

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Lizzie2 on Feb 26th, 2004, 6:06pm
LOL thanks woobs!!  i knew you'd set me straight!  hehe :)

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by pubgirl on Feb 26th, 2004, 6:08pm
What a childish argument this has become. ::)

As I have always said:  Girls grow up to be women, Boys just become Big Boys.

W


Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by amen on Feb 26th, 2004, 6:11pm
Ditto Wendy ;)  
It is getting addictive.  Kinda like a bad movie that you just keep watching :-/  Cause now you're so into it you just gotta know what happens next :o  I am just sitting at work watching the clock and reading these threads till it's time to go home. ::)
Andrea

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jonny on Feb 26th, 2004, 6:15pm

on 02/26/04 at 17:59:48, jzakhar wrote:
Shit man, you CANNOT even debate the merits of the arguement. It's just what you say goes. Too bad it's a public forum in which the very rules state you're wrong. But we can let that slide. I understand you wont be a man if you don't walk of this thread winning =)


Debate you?....Why?....I have better things to do like play the penquin game ;;D

You think I care about rules?....Please show me "Rules"

I always win... didnt you get that memo?

You sir, are way too easy.....LMMFAO ;;D

............................Your King ;;D

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by pubgirl on Feb 26th, 2004, 6:18pm
Compelling stuff watching boys scrap and bundle (not sure if you use those words over there, but it's what kindergarten kids do in the playground before they learn to fight properly, all bluster and posing aggression but no real punches)

I ought to be in bed :-[

W

Yeh Jonny, give them penguins a beating. MOB is The KING! ;;D

ooooopppps I'm in for twubble now!

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Tiannia on Feb 26th, 2004, 6:19pm

on 02/26/04 at 18:15:53, jonny wrote:
Debate you?....Why?....I have better things to do like play the penquin game ;;D

............................Your King ;;D


I glad you like bash the Penguin.....

Tia

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by amen on Feb 26th, 2004, 6:20pm
Jonny, I was wondering what was taking you so long to respond.  I just knew you wouldn't be able to resist after that.   :o  See, you can be read like a book. [smiley=laugh.gif]
Andrea

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jonny on Feb 26th, 2004, 6:26pm

on 02/26/04 at 18:20:14, amen wrote:
 See, you can be read like a book.
Andrea


Is it Hustler?.....Man, I hope so!!!!

Rude, Crude and and full of attitude!

................................jonny

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by amen on Feb 26th, 2004, 6:29pm
[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=crackup.gif]
Sorry I can't watch this any more.  It's finally time to stop clock watchin and go home. ;;D
PF days to ya'll!
Andrea

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by pubgirl on Feb 26th, 2004, 6:32pm
Hey John

What's "uberhosting" a reference to?

Sounds a bit like a Gestapo word

Wendy

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Paigelle on Feb 26th, 2004, 6:47pm
Migraines are such a walk in the park.  I sleep it off and if necessary I will throw up.    No biggie!  I have had them last for 7 days in a row at times, I just take it easy, avoid caffeine, and stay out of bright light.  A rx for Midrin helps too, if I have it.

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Tiannia on Feb 26th, 2004, 7:00pm

on 02/26/04 at 18:26:03, jonny wrote:
Is it Hustler?.....Man, I hope so!!!!

Rude, Crude and and full of attitude!

................................jonny


Wasn't it Tats 'N' Beers??? No that was the name of the lesbian bar that you and Coots were going to open.  [smiley=crackup.gif]

Tiannia

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jonny on Feb 26th, 2004, 7:03pm

on 02/26/04 at 19:00:24, Tiannia wrote:
Wasn't it Tats 'N' Beers??? No that was the name of the lesbian bar that you and Coots were going to open.  [smiley=crackup.gif]


Shhh, coots is the silent partner ....LOL ;;D

...............................jonny

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Kevin_M on Feb 26th, 2004, 7:33pm

on 02/26/04 at 17:30:20, jzakhar wrote:
Personal attacks are usually a sign that the speaker has nothing intelligent left to say. But that would beg the question as to weather the speaker had anything intelligent to say to begin with.  ;;D
Anyway i'm done here, i've said everything I need to.  


Would this statement not be a personal affront?  I would consider it one toward who it is written to.  So...if this is a personal attack, you are saying the speaker has nothing intelligent to say.  Now I can understand why you are done here.
 The relationship of a personal affront being spoken, to whether that person speaking it has had anything intelligent to say to begin with, makes absolutely no sense.  If that is the inference, that jonny has nothing intelligent to say to begin with, well now some true colors are showing.  There is a lack of intelligence showing by that statement.  That is most certainly a personal affront.  If that is so, your whole post was simply to voice a personal affront and ALSO contained no thoughts based on facts.  
 I am glad you posted so that it has been made clear who your post was directed at now.  It seems it's very simple to notice, and your post is a very good example, that when you choose to point your index finger at someone, notice the other four fingers in your hand are pointing back at you.

Kevin M



Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Kevin_M on Feb 26th, 2004, 7:40pm

on 02/26/04 at 19:33:23, Kevin_M wrote:
the other four fingers in your hand are pointing back at you.


No, I'm not a Dr. Seuss character or born deformed.  I meant three.

Kevin M

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jonny on Feb 26th, 2004, 7:48pm
Two, three or even four fingers........I got one for you all ;;D

Its all about clusters....you want another, search it out!!!

..................................jonny

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Tiannia on Feb 26th, 2004, 7:54pm

on 02/26/04 at 19:48:43, jonny wrote:
Two, three or even four fingers........I got one for you all ;;D

Its all about clusters....you want another, search it out!!!

..................................jonny

[smiley=finger.gif] [smiley=finger.gif] [smiley=finger.gif] [smiley=finger.gif] [smiley=finger.gif]
[smiley=bigtiny.gif] [smiley=bigtiny.gif] [smiley=bigtiny.gif] [smiley=bigtiny.gif] [smiley=bigtiny.gif]

hehe even a ditsy ass blonde like myself can figure this one out.  Smile everyone it will get better...

huggs, Jonny, you always make me smile.

Tia

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Kevin_M on Feb 26th, 2004, 7:55pm

on 02/26/04 at 19:48:43, jonny wrote:
Its all about clusters....
..................................jonny


I am very sure that is what I was desparately searching for when, for the first time, I search typed: cluster headaches.

Kevin M

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by jonny on Feb 26th, 2004, 8:18pm
This will be my last post in this thread.

people search out CH and this is the only place they can interact with people that understand.

Anyone want to flood this data base of CH info and fuck them up with bull-shit info?

...........................................jonny

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Kevin_M on Feb 26th, 2004, 8:25pm

on 02/26/04 at 10:34:52, amen wrote:
I expected some negative feedback from some.  I have been around this site long enough to know to expect that from some.  It doesn't bother me.
Andrea


Good sport!  Things have a way of working out.  I know now I will be able to sign in here as a CHer to find out about CH, and stay engaged with all the insanity derived from it.    Amen

Kevin M

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Filbert on Feb 26th, 2004, 10:55pm

Thank God that was jonnys' last post onthis thread!!!

       JAMWHHSFUHOBHCOTS

...................................................................................................................................... Filbert

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by cootie on Feb 26th, 2004, 11:29pm
Save your breath...You'll need it to blow up your dates.  [smiley=tongue2.gif]

Hey did someone mention silent partner.......hey who's buyin the next round Pam  ;)  

Last one there is a meegrainer.................(hey I git em too so what can I say.....usually nothin intelligent cuz I am smarter then that)

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Pinkfloyd on Feb 27th, 2004, 12:36am

on 02/26/04 at 20:18:38, jonny wrote:
Anyone want to flood this data base of CH info and fuck them up with bull-shit info?
...........................................jonny


LOL  [smiley=laugh.gif]
Oh, the irony!!

I guess no one could answer my questions huh?
Thought so when the joke books and strawmen were pulled out!

Thats ok....this is why I only bring up the subject once every blue moon. Based upon the last pictures from the Hubble, there should be another one in May.

Can't wait to start the drive to add a migraine button on the left side.  :o

PF
P.S. Could someone hold the door for me please? I have my hands full, carting off all this migraine information. Maybe the Salvation Army is interested. I need the deduction.

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by BobG on Feb 27th, 2004, 12:48am
Hmmm.

3 more topics to add to the buttons on the left side of the screen.

Carting- I disapprove of carting. But I pay someone else to do it for me.

Salvation Army- I approve.

Deductions- I approve of this. If it applies to me. Screw the poor people.

;;D

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by DJ on Feb 27th, 2004, 1:19am

on 02/26/04 at 16:53:26, jzakhar wrote:
You're right jonny, I did miss it. Because it is no where to be found on http://www.clusterheadaches.com/newvisitors.html

However message board usage is clearly listed there.


Ok John, since you want to play with words, the message board usage page can be re-written to make it more clearly understood what is meant by that entire page.

I thought it would be understood (by stating what I did on the main index page) that this site was made specifically for sufferers and supporters of Cluster Headaches!  I personally didn't think too many people would actually go any further into the site, much less try to start arguments over "the rules" after reading whats on the the main page by clicking the 'big blue link' at the bottom of that page.

We can go there if you like.......  I don't think you honestly believe the points you are trying to argue.  I think you're just trying to stir up shit.  If you do believe your arguments, maybe another message board would suit your fancy better?





Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Jayne on Feb 27th, 2004, 9:00am
I would like to clear up something for everyone on the usage of the word "Meegraine" that some of us use on this board.
We do not use this word to make fun of migraine sufferers.
Here is where this word came from.

At the CLUSTERHEADACHE convention in ATLANTA a few years ago. Mr John Graham who is the organizer of OUCH UK. Stood up and gave a wonderful speach. He used the word "Migraine", but instead of saying "Migraine" he said "Meegraine"  (it caused a few giggles around the room).

So in essence, when we use the word "Meegraine" we are all poking gentle light hearted fun at mr John Graham, whom we all love and have the greatest respect for. He is an amazing man and so is his wife.
So, stop being so effing sensitive.
Aw shit, I gotta go, I'm getting a "Meegraine" now.

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Pinkfloyd on Feb 27th, 2004, 10:30am
[smiley=laugh.gif]
Jayne,
Nice try. I didn't know that there were 437 people at the Atlanta convention. Impressive numbers indeed.

Sounds like the same excuses used when people here have used the word N*****

Come on Jayne, maybe a few people use it that way but....unless my hat isn't covering up the word "fool" that's on my forehead..
You know that 90% of the people that use it never even heard of mr. Graham. You know it's used in two different ways. One, it's either used to show complete disrespect for the condition and those that might admit they suffer from them or two, it's used to bring up the subject without being ridiculed for using it or admitting they suffer from them.

Nice try at an attempt to put an end to any fighting, and its appreciated for that.

DJ,
If you'd like to discuss this, I'm up for it.
Let's begin with who it was that brought the rules into the discussion. Maybe Johnny is reading the rules printed on the back door?

It does seem unclear.....are cluster sufferers allowed to discuss migraines here? Very simple question. It'll only take two or three keystrokes to answer the question. Since it's your website, I'll respect whatever the answer may be.

No one said that this should change into a haven for migraine sufferers. Just seems a bit ironic that I can find out what type of exhaust system I should put on my 69 Chevelle but I can't ask people I can trust what they would suggest I try for my wife thats suffering from migraines.
I guess I might also need a list of what constitutes "bullshit" information.

PF
(now, about that "mushroom" button.  ;)

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Jayne on Feb 27th, 2004, 10:52am
wow.....you need a chill pill!!!!! The word Meegraine was NEVER used here until after the Atlanta convention, and it caught on....so some of the people who use that word like that did not know how it started here...
Peace, love and imitrex!!!
Jayne

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by KarynG on Feb 27th, 2004, 11:06am
I'm getting a headache...

;;D

Title: Re: Migraine sufferers
Post by Jayne on Feb 27th, 2004, 12:11pm
OMG Karen said "Heeedache"



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