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Title: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Cerberus on Feb 15th, 2004, 4:48pm in a nutshell...this post is my last sane attempt to fix it. I am extremely angry, stressed out, feeling completely overwhelmed and totally at a loss as to what to do about it. There are many reasons, some obvious, some not so. WTF?? I am really really worried that this is going to cause a mental breakdown real soon if I don't do something about it....although I have ABSOULUTELY NO CLUE what to do. Is it my medication or lack there of? I don't know. Is it general anxiety? I don't know. Whatever it is .....its getting worse day to day, and I need help. Ramon |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by rextangle on Feb 15th, 2004, 4:51pm Hi Ramon, Is there anything I can do??? Let me know! Really.... Rex |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Renee on Feb 15th, 2004, 4:58pm Ramon, Are you on any type of anti-seizure med for CH or on an anti-depressant of any sort? Did this start before or after the layoff? I've been where you are! p.m. me if I can be of assistance! hang in there and evaluate your meds, renee...p.m. me and leave your #. |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Cerberus on Feb 15th, 2004, 5:04pm To say that my mental state is "Fragile" would be an understatement at best. I honestly don't know or think I should be left here alone. Any capacity for compassion, logic and reason is fleeting at an alarming rate! NOT YET hysterical but I feel that coming on too. I am taking Xanax 1 mg. for anxiety (plenty left) I WAS taking remeron for depression and have no clue if that is something to be stopped without tapering down. I have none or no resource to get any. WTF!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Renee on Feb 15th, 2004, 5:12pm IMO....I think you are having a panic attack. I would pop a xanax under your tongue and let is dissolve, if I were you. When did you go off the remeron? I'm right here...get me your phone number and i'll call ya. renee |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Renee on Feb 15th, 2004, 5:19pm Ramon. Left me # on your voice mail. Call me collect! I'm right here...YOU ARE NOT ALONE! renee |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Cerberus on Feb 15th, 2004, 5:20pm My head is pounding (NOT a CH) I can taste the lining of my stomache. I am shivering uncontrollably, my extremities are sore and cold. I have an hour to get dinner started Another person's child visiting my daughter who lives 10 miles from here and I can't take her home (I ain't driving) My wife works tonight (all night) just me and the kids. And somehow I have to manage to hold it together. |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by bobkip on Feb 15th, 2004, 5:21pm Ramon, Hang in there buddy. I've been on neurontin for a couple of weeks now and the shit has left me drained. From what I understand, ya gotta taper off the stuff. Wishing you all the best. Kip |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Renee on Feb 15th, 2004, 5:23pm imo...the cold extremities and tremors are from an anxiety attack. call me collect! check your voice mail |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Renee on Feb 15th, 2004, 5:26pm Remeron needs to be tapered and I think that may be contributing to this crisis also, depends when you quit it cold turkey. I'd like to hear from you! |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Renee on Feb 15th, 2004, 5:31pm Ramon, I left a message with one of your children and left my phone number. hang in there...take deep breaths but not rapidly. ya might breathe into a lunch bag if you have one. update me....my arms are around you now! |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by TxBasslady on Feb 15th, 2004, 5:49pm I just talked to Tina (Woobie)..... Everything ok....for now. Jean |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by KingOfPain on Feb 15th, 2004, 5:52pm on 02/15/04 at 17:49:28, TxBasslady wrote:
THANK YOU Jean! Ramon, hang in & hang on. |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by KingOfPain on Feb 15th, 2004, 6:04pm on 02/15/04 at 17:31:41, Renee wrote:
Right on Renee. Way To Go! THANK YOU. :) |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Woobie on Feb 15th, 2004, 6:10pm WTF? my kids JUST woke me up - i had NO idea what was goin on. Then he tells me "read the thread" when I ask him what was wrong ..... Renee - Thank You for calling - Sami didn't know I was up - and KNEW Ramon didn't wanna talk - she didn't know you were calling because you KNEW he felt that way. (they were leaving him ALONE!!!!) I dont know what to do - it's a weekend - oF COURSE! and a holiday weekend too (PERFECT)! If I take him to the ER - they'll just do what they did last time this happened - give him xanax and tell him to go see someone - ( is TAKING xanax and seeing someone). So, there's no point. I will make dinner and take the kid home - and my kid's gonna stay there too - so he'll only be here with Alyssa - he'll be alright - I have to go to work - --- dammit. thank you for everything you guys! tina |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Renee on Feb 15th, 2004, 6:14pm Did he put a xanax under his tongue? When did he cold turkey off the remeron? |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Renee on Feb 15th, 2004, 6:29pm I talked with Tina and Ramon is sleeping now! She will keep us posted of any changes! big texas vibes to Ramon and Tina!!! hugs!!!! renee |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Woobie on Feb 15th, 2004, 6:46pm hi! ;;D first of all - i wanna say SHIT. You guys - are awesome - You KNOW this place is special when he comes here to post when he's feeling this way, instead of just coming and waking me up! I had NO idea ..... This is an anxiety attack - we've done this before. Nothing can be done but take a xanax and he did that... it's starting to work now. (THank GOD!) He's starting to relax and maybe even drifting off to sleep. Renee - TY for the calls - and the tips. I did not know you could put xanax under the tongue!! I really appreciate it... :-* OH - and he quit the remeron a week ago - he shudda tapered off - but I dont think it was his intention to quit - the DR just wouldn't give him a refill because she wanted to "see him first". I should drive him over to her house reall quick - let her SEE him NOW. (BITCH!) and JEAN - well - you know.. :-* NO ONE WOKE ME UP! UGH! :-/ THIS IS WHY I LOVE THIS PLACE!! It may not be CH that we're having an issue with right now, but you all help ANYWAY. Definately a family here! I will make ramon's life as simple as I can for tonight while I go to work...... he should be ok. LOVE YOU GUYS!!! [smiley=heart.gif] Tina |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by broomhilda on Feb 15th, 2004, 6:54pm I am so thankful you all were there for him and the family and I am glad things seem to be working out for tonight :) Cerebus, Woobie and family, know you are all in my thoughts and prayers and if there is anything I can do :) Please let me know. To this group of amazing friends, you are all awesome! |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by M.R. on Feb 15th, 2004, 7:31pm Hi kids Left a couple of voice mails...everything seems to be under control....but remember...I'm 2 and 1/2 hours away.....if you need help, let me know., you have my phone #...see ya |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by athos on Feb 15th, 2004, 8:10pm What ever you need please if I can help let me know... Everyone here is an extended part of my family and you are important to me and everyone here... Just so you know that... Athos aka Ken |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Roxy on Feb 15th, 2004, 9:01pm woobs, Ramon.....sorry I wasn't online today. You've got my number....please, use it. I'm here if you need anything. Love you guys, T |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Cerberus on Feb 15th, 2004, 9:18pm Well folks, Several hours later, and I feel as if I were left in the vaccum of space with not suit for protection..........uuuggghhhh. When I posted this thread originally, I did not know what to do and was afraid that woobie would be mad if I woke her (I understand all too well how valuable her sleep time is) and I didn't want to scare or endanger the kids either. I was at the end of my rope and if my shotgun hadn't been in the bedroom where woobie was who knows what the result would have been. THANK YOU ALL for what you have done for me today! Had you not been heer I might not have survived it. The Xanax is in full effect right now so pardon me if this is a bit spotty. I remeber little. Everyone is gone for the evening and I just got off the phone with Randy, no matter what happens he can make ya smile and laugh a little. Renee... bless your heart and your advice and timing were impecable. :-* Jean....I know you called, I love you and I'm ok for now, doped up reaaaal good but ok for the time being. :-* Ken.... Even through all your troubles at home you called to check up. I will never forget it and hope that somehow I can repay you the debt. Everyone else......I have few words to express how I feel about you all. If there is a great reward at the end of this life, you ALL are more deserving of it than anyone else. I pray it is so. I am sitting here litteraly in tears, about the kindness and support you all have shown for me in this dark hour. I am ashamed that even with episodic CH I wasn't strong enough to cope with this. I Love you guys..... :'( :'( :'( Ramon |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by M.R. on Feb 15th, 2004, 9:26pm Dude We are here for ya.... you need help....give a call....any time..... The mike |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by TxBasslady on Feb 15th, 2004, 9:34pm Ramon, I LOVE YOU TOO! You and Tina are very special to me. Always know that I am here for both of you ANYTIME. If you need anything.........you let me know. Love to you and Tina, Jean |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by catlind on Feb 15th, 2004, 9:55pm This is what happens when ya aren't online :( I hope you are doing ok Ramon, know that many people are out here for ya. Hang in there, you have survived CH, you are one tough SOB. Cat |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by JDH on Feb 15th, 2004, 10:15pm Ramon & T, Just saw this...give me call if you need to talk. Jim |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Charlie on Feb 15th, 2004, 10:45pm Get out and move around. Doesn't matter where. Get a sandwich but at least move around. Works for me. Charlie |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by don on Feb 15th, 2004, 10:59pm Nothing to be shamed about dude. You have just experianced a trauma with the job thing and cold turkying on the remeron. Your physical and emotional reaction to all that is what could be expected. Having CH doesn't make us invincible, not by a long shot. All the "If I can deal with CH I can deal with anything" crap is a bunch of bullshit. Differant traumas require differant treatments. You'll survive though. Just keep aware of when that next door is about to open. It will open. Now shut the fuck up and go take a nap. |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by thomas on Feb 16th, 2004, 8:07am I didn't see this til monday morning.......... sorry. Do I have to get in my car and drive down there? [smiley=hug.gif] |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by TxBasslady on Feb 16th, 2004, 9:49am :'( It's times like this.....when I wish we all lived closer together. The invention of the telephone was great. But a up close and personal hug from a CH brother or sister at a time like this, could work wonders! Hope you all know how much I love you..... :-* Jean |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Woobie on Feb 16th, 2004, 10:08am Renee I just want to thank you again for everything you did yesterday. You helped keep Ramon focused on the MB... which was a good thing - the advice about the xanax, the breathing ---- everything.. you helped him!! He KNOWs that stuff - but the way he was thinking, he wouldn't have THOUGHT of it all - and you being there, keeping him focused... calling, I just really appreciate it all@! and i know he does too! anyhow - THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH for everything... I hope you know what a difference you made! |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by BruceD on Feb 16th, 2004, 10:29am on 02/16/04 at 08:07:23, thomas wrote:
Yeah! What he said!!! WooHooo ... roadtrip! Seriously, I'm so glad that things are turning out OK. I missed this one over the weekend, but am so glad that the CH family was there to help out. Take care BruceD |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Woobie on Feb 16th, 2004, 10:32am Just been updated on all the calls he received last night.. THANK YOU TO you ALL!!!! And thank you to those in the chat room who helped keep him focused too!! I hated going to work - leaving him here - but I also knew that there would be people for him to chat with all night off and on. Got home from work this morning and he's sleeping - so I dont know how he is today - but I'm sure he'll be posting too. I'm going to bed now. ;;D So thank you all for being here!! and there (chat room) I mean it from the bottom of my heart! Now - STOP THE MUSHY SHIT !!! ;;D tina [smiley=heart.gif] |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Renee on Feb 16th, 2004, 11:29am Ramon & Tina, I've been in the shoes Ramon was walking in yesterday! There is no greater fear, not even CH! Yes, the xanax under the tongue will speed it getting into the system by about 20-25 min. I'm glad I was able to help and like Jean said...the miles apart makes it difficult as I knew he needed someone to hold him. I'm glad Jean was able to get you awake! Next time I call, if this happens again, I'll tell the kids to hand him the phone NO MATTER WHAT HE SAYS!! ;) Well,,,I guess I passed with my first big role as a supporter instead of being the one in need and I have to say....IT FELT REAL GOOD to be able to give back in return to my ch family for saving me. I love you all! Ramon...if it comes back again today, CALL ME!!! Together we will get you thru it! ;) ;) ;) ;) renee |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by 9erfan on Feb 16th, 2004, 12:49pm on 02/15/04 at 21:18:26, Cerberus wrote:
Ramon, this REALLY scares me....what about getting that shotgun out of the house for awhile until you get the meds back on track? I don't want you to have to be faced with that choice again! I hope that you are doing MUCH better today and that we see you in chat tonight. I don't have any words of wisdom for you [smiley=huh.gif] but I will keep you in my prayers. Love to you & Woobie, V. |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by jonny on Feb 16th, 2004, 3:15pm on 02/15/04 at 21:18:26, Cerberus wrote:
Dude, next time you even think like that you wont need a shotgun cause you will have me to deal with!!! ...........................jonny |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by ozzman on Feb 17th, 2004, 10:04am on 02/15/04 at 21:55:57, catlind wrote:
What she said..... Holy S... I don't check the board a couple of days and all hell breaks loose. Ramon, don't even think about it! Tina, you are a great woman and an awesome supporter, you got your wings (angel) as far as I'm concerned... Love you guys. Ozzy |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Gena on Feb 17th, 2004, 10:40am :o sorry I was not around for you both. Hope all is well now. |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Woobie on Feb 17th, 2004, 1:41pm HEY! If you guys come down and bring cheesecake, can I have some???? Come on DOWN - Ramon just so happens to be OFF work for the next little while ;) nothin better to do. LOL - thank you guys - everything is fine .... Ramon's getting his proverbial shit together...... slowly. I am really overwhelmed at the love we got this weekend from everyone here. Maybe I havent' mentioned that. ;;D Feelin the love..... Tina |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by cathy on Feb 17th, 2004, 3:29pm Tina and Ramon, Im sorry I wasn't around to offer the support when it was needed, isn't that always the way, im happy to see that things are settling down...check your emails... Hugs Cathy :) |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by Tiannia on Feb 17th, 2004, 3:50pm damn it my internet was down this weekend and here I check the boards when I come in to work and see this. Raymond, please take the advise and let the gun out of the house for a while. You have soo very much to hold on for. And there is nothing that is worth making THAT choice. Please we are all here. You can call me in Vegas any time. I might not be able to drive there, but trust me I can a great listener and will be tere for as long as you need to talk. As long as you need to just hear a voice to keep you focused I will talk. Hell I'll read you a book over the phone if that what it takes to get you through it. Tina, Call the doc and tell her that you need to get the meds to last until she can see you not the other way around. Meds should not be stopped until they can see you. She should fill a partial script to last you until your appointment. And yes Tina, take him to her house. Take him to her office with a copy of this thread and let her see what happened. Also, inform her that you will be contacting the medical board and requesting a peer evaluation because of this incident. That should light a fire under her ass to make sure that Raymond is taken care of in the best possible way. Please keep us posted on how he is doing. Tia/Traci |
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Title: Re: I really need help desperately (no Joke) Post by thomas on Feb 17th, 2004, 4:28pm on 02/17/04 at 13:41:54, Woobie wrote:
Of course........ sweetie....... How ya doin 2 day, Ramon? |
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