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(Message started by: Tim_w on Mar 2^nd, 2003, 12:24pm)

Title: Kip-10
Post by Tim_w on Mar 2^nd, 2003, 12:24pm

?- HasFamily and friends seen any of you at a Kip-10 ? :-[
In 23 years my wife has only seen it 2 or 3 times,kids only 1 time!
Had no place to go!!!
( Just wondering)
Wishing all pfdan Tim_w ???

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by jonny on Mar 2^nd, 2003, 12:36pm

Ya dude,

Having CH start at 14 yrs old and living in a small joint with 2 bros and a Mom they seen me get hit alot, they learned to walk away and leave me alone. really sucks at that age and your Mom wants to help you and all you want to do is kill anyone that comes near you.

Much easier now, got 9 rooms to hide in and nobody fucks with me.

Mom still loves me....Im a Mama's boy and damn proud of it ;D

.................................jonny

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by kim on Mar 2^nd, 2003, 12:38pm

In the beginning only mom, dad and the siblings........then -- my hubby. No one from work or even my friends (except ole Uncle Jimmy ;D) has ever witnessed a ten in over 25 yesrs as an episodic sufferer. I have been successful in that I have avoided the "outside" world from witnessing these atacks. Most atacks happen at night or after a long day at work. If I got hit at work I quietly escaped to the bathroom where I sat in a "stall" assuming "the position" until it passed. Amazingly, it has alway gone unnoticed (ONCE! I had to get driven home from NYC in a car due to incapacitation from a cluster) ONCE in 25 years ain't that bad.............

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by Roxy on Mar 2^nd, 2003, 12:41pm

Tim,

My first instinct when I know it's climbing to the top is RUN. I want no one to see or hear me. Greg has seen it about 4 or 5 times....that's just because he's chasing me down to jab me with the needle. The kids had never seen it till this Christmas. Like you, I had no where to go.....scared the shit out of them....and these are kids that don't scare too easily. Had my daughter crying, sons trying to grab me. The kids caught me alone not to long ago at 3am....heard me in the other room.....they actually picked me up and carried me to the er. They have since been instructed that they will die if they attempt that again....but, at the time I couldn't talk or fight them.

I just don't want to inflict that on any of the family.....unfortunately, there are times it can't be helped.

Tracey

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by arby on Mar 2^nd, 2003, 12:58pm

Tim_w and all,

My mom before I was married and my wife after, but only when a ER trip was required. Mostly they know to leave me alone but because of love and concern, I don't have the guts to tell them to not peek in on me, so they are often the ones in the end to make the final decision.

jonny..... mammas boys rule!! Been there and its O.K.!!

PFDAN to all

arby

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by suzy617 on Mar 2^nd, 2003, 1:07pm

When I was married I would just quietly sneak out of bed and go to a room alone. Nobody has seen me until this past cycle when son begged to take me to ER. Since that night he would just stay in his room and listen to me pace the hallway. I think since he realizes that I'm actually not gonna die, he leaves me alone.

suzy
yes and I love those mama boys too!

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by netniet on Mar 2^nd, 2003, 1:26pm

No one ever!!!

I turn in to a monster when i get hit, if anyone comes near me, I want to rip there heads off a play soccer with it ;D

Lucky for my son, i get hit during the night so he is a sleep.

The rest of my family is well trained (we have a family history of clusterheads my father as it too). As we were growing up we new what not to do.

net-

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by K. on Mar 2^nd, 2003, 6:18pm

Before I knew what cluster headaches were, so before the right meds, I used to go to the ER a lot. One time in particular...my sister had to come get me from work and take me. I was a complete mess, seriously freaking out because the pain was so bad...first time anyone ever saw me like that...then she started to cry and so there we were...what a pair! She brings that up every so often..it's been years since that episode but I'm thinkin she probably still has nightmares about it. Luckily it was my sister and she still loves me.
Karen

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by jimash on Mar 2^nd, 2003, 7:10pm

Lot's of people have seen me sick.
Few with a K-10 or 10+
One good friend used to make remarks like:
"Jim, you fakin' it again?"
then he would take a good look and say:\" Man you fake it good"
Sometimes they ask why you are crying in one eye.
Mostly they just think I am a junky who needs a fix and fire me on the spot.
Ironic ain't it?
Jim

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by JDH on Mar 2^nd, 2003, 9:50pm

Got hit bad about 35 miles from home this past fall with no meds (duh me). My wife drove while I beat up the inside of the car....man, that was a long ride. I couldn't get to that shot fast enough!
She's seen the begining of most and been there when it's over but knows to leave me alone while it's happening.
I usually try to avoid being around people when I'm in a cycle and getting hit often.
Jim

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by 2late on Mar 3^rd, 2003, 6:55pm

never a 10....i lock myself away if it get's that bad....thanks to this site it don't get that bad anymore ;D ...........Jack

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by thraal on Mar 4^th, 2003, 7:52am

no-one has witnessed me having a kip10 so far - having had periodic CH for 7 yrs (not 6 as i previously thought)

as most of you, i cannot bear anyone near me - in our previous house, i used to go out for "walks", whenever someone else was going to cross me on my walk, i managed to compose myself for 1 minute, until they were past me

once fled into a field - _had_ to pee, so in the middle of the field, while it's raining, and i'm peeing, i get a really bad hit from the icepick and i fall over, in the mud, peeing on myself

that was a new low! :D funny, i keep saying that sentence to myself every kip10 attack now ;D

think about really nasty things during the attacks as well, like, this is how it must feel to receive torture, or about lobotomy (i would happily get it done if that would stop the CHs) or how killing myself would stop the pain (usually i'm quite cheerful though 8))

my wife knows she has to avoid me during those testing times; even when i smashed up things in the kitchen last week :-/

after a while there's so much pain there's no more energy to do anything but moan and walk, very very slowly, in agony - even no energy to smash up things or to scream - this is when the morbid thoughts are starting

i don't want _anyone_ to see me like that - ever

someone had to drive me home from work yesterday >:(

was not a kip10 though - kip8, but still bad enough to have it witnessed by someone else than my wife or my brother

i didn't say a word all trip, and yes, he did ask why i was crying from one eye

on the bright side, PF morning this morning...

CU,
t.

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by brain_cramps on Mar 4^th, 2003, 9:53am

After about 6hrs of hiding indoors, figured if I went outside and got some fresh air, maybe that would help. I got about 50 yards down the block and it got worse (if that's possible!!!) I was on my knees holding onto a fence bawling like a baby, with people walking by on their way to work at 7AM. They all looked at me like I was some kinda junkie after a bad night. (I think I introduced some of them to some VERY choice words!)

grant

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by Prense on Mar 4^th, 2003, 12:35pm

About a 7-8 is the max I have ever went through in the past 10 years chronically with this. Lucky me, or lucky everyone around me? Either way, I have never done anything that I would consider to be violent although it is EXTREMELY difficult to refrain. Screaming and yelling? Oh hell yes! Even then, if I have any choice in the matter, no one will ever see me do it. Needless to say, I have never made an ER visit due to this mainly because there is no way in hell I would be able to drive myself and again, I would not be around anyone else in this state if at all possible. I am certain we all have a different tollerance to pain and each of us most likely deals with it in different ways, but I know exactly what I consider a Kip 7-8 and I could not even fathom anything more excruciating than that! Who knows though, what I consider a 7, someone else might call a 10 or a 5...tolerance for pain I suppose, and I do NOT have it!

GL to you all!

Christopher

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by wip5150 on Mar 4^th, 2003, 2:17pm

I've had episodic CH's for about 15 years now (since I was a Freshman in college) and, thankfully, only my bride has seen me with them.

We have 18 week old twin boys now and I worry about them seeing me as I go through my process of dealing with them. I pray they don't ever have to see me suffer like I do sometimes.

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by Tim_w on Mar 5^th, 2003, 6:17am

To All Clusterheads
Thank you all for your input!
I know it is really hard to hide after you become cronic!
Its hard enought when you are episodic!
The eazyest ones are at nite I have become real good at sneeking out of bed ::) the hardest is at work!
Luckly I work for a small construction company running heavy equipment most times I work buy myself.
What is real bad is when Iam runing a hoeram(a big jackhammer that fits on the back of a backhoe) for brakeing rock! :o
But in 23 years I have never mist a days work becouse of CH. Some days I should have!
Keep the replys coming! :D
I'll shut up now :-X
Wishing youall pfdan Tim_w

Title: Re: Kip-10
Post by Charlie on Mar 5^th, 2003, 7:02am

Oh Yeah. At least it was right up there. Mine always seemed the same....horrible. Anyway, twice I got hit traveling with a friend in his car on the Ohio Turnpike. Fortunately, Dave taught a course in psychiatric nursing and knew exactly what it was. He had seen others getting hit. We had to keep going. The technique worked once anyway.

Charlie