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Title: Police Harasment Post by kamm_fam on Feb 13th, 2003, 9:23pm >:( Hello my name is John, I'm a cluster head sufferer for many yrs. now. Last night I was Harassed by my local Sheriff's Department and spent a few hrs, in a plastic cage, was refused my medication (VERAPIMIL) by the Nurse on call. I made many request to get my medicine before i was attacked by the Demon. :'( Wouldn't you know it, the demon found me. It was a 10 on the kip scale, and it took the cage kickers 45 minutes before they even came and checked on me. ??? I feel that my rights as a disabled person should have applied do to this situation, but no it doesn't according to them. I plan on contacting my local news channels to see if they will listen to what I have to say about the treatment of disabled persons when they are locked in a cage. When I finally got my meds. It was after they released me at 1 am. in they morning :) lucky enough for me someone or something was watching over me last night in that cage, because i'm still living!!!! I would like to know if anyone else has been in this possition and would like to hear what you think. (good or bad) thank you. |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by jonny on Feb 13th, 2003, 9:40pm Thinking that they will give you any meds is crazy unless your dieing. ..................................jonny |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by Ted on Feb 13th, 2003, 9:45pm I never had an attack in lock up, but from the times I was there I don't remember them being too responsive to requests, LOL. I also remember many of my rights getting curtailed. THat's what happens when you're arrested. You lose some of your rights, and many more if convicted. On a side note, being a few hours late with verap won't make it stop working, so that attack would have come on anyway. |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by kamm_fam on Feb 13th, 2003, 9:47pm they knew that i needed it, i was told that i would be able to receive it when i got there and they still denide me :'( |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by Ted on Feb 13th, 2003, 9:50pm Those jailhouse recruiters. They promisesd me a beachside condo. Sorry you were hurting, dude. |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by jonny on Feb 13th, 2003, 9:50pm Not even in a court of law Id back you on that, Ted |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by kamm_fam on Feb 13th, 2003, 10:00pm i thank everybody who reply's, ;D but the whole thing was fubar, when the cuffed and stuffed me, i was forced off my property and on to city property. (a sidewalk) but it started by stopping a friend of mine to talk with him and was illegaly searched and seized, when they grab me i said " Under the 4th adminment this is an illegal search of my person and would require a search warrent then pled the 5th adminment. :-X |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by cbolony on Feb 14th, 2003, 3:16am John been arrested 8 times and every time they batter the door down. Been wired tap 3 times 2 by the New York State and one by the feds went to jail for 18 months for that one. Once they put the cuffs on you your rights are gone. Say nothing and get a lawyer.And all these arrests and wirer taps were for gambling just think if i did something real bad,John stay PF |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by verndy on Feb 14th, 2003, 4:24am you bet i have went to the er told em i hadnt slept for 7 days they asked me if i was depresed i said no r u thinking about suiside no only when i have a ch two goons took my shoe laces and up to the bin i went had the beast come a little later on wile i was talking to god so she said she was when i said no one was perfect she said I am any way they told me to lay down and you know you cant i was hopping around smacken my forhead with the palm of my hand 7 big fuckers and a little old lady with a great big fucking harpoon came in the room and the fight was on the old lady got me in the back of the thigh nocking me down not out i could see and hear every thing not to mention feel all the pain i just couldnt move tyrd to sue but i didnt have 10 gs they strapd me down and thats why i get my meds on the street from a black man down town nice guy its just i dont like his freinds heroin kills e mail me any time if you need some one to talk to im to pissed off to give up 8) |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by Brian_Y on Feb 14th, 2003, 11:23am Hi. Ahem. Is this thing on? (tap tap tap) What. the. Fuck? |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by Margi on Feb 14th, 2003, 11:30am Sorry you had a rough night, but I'm with Ted on this one. Verapamil is a preventative, not an abortive. I hope, if you do get media coverage, you don't tell them that the Verapamil would have prevented an attack for you. We DO, as a group, need publicity but .... :-/ |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by echo on Feb 14th, 2003, 1:15pm The ex-cop in me brings this out. No need for you to answer just my own internal questions. What were you doing to draw my attention in the 1st place? First offense -- doubtful Started by spewing off the 4th amendment -- Wrong move. Now you pissed him off. Detention cell -- no meds. And you're surprised by this? Prove the meds are for you. Prove the rx is valid, prove the dr is real. Prove the meds in the container are really the meds described/named on the container. No way in the world they would have given you anything. If they had you'd try to sue over that also. If you try to sue over not getting the drugs you'll never get anywhere. You got nothing! I'm with the police on this one. |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by Slammy on Feb 14th, 2003, 7:48pm That's it! Everyone out of the pool! I want background checks done before I meet up with ya all at the next convention! ;D Slammy 8) |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by 2late on Feb 14th, 2003, 7:49pm my experience while incarcerated is funny today but back then it sucked, i had 2 of pittsburgh's finest poundin' me with phone books i was bein' a smartass and not given' 'em any info, this is absolutley true & today it's funny as hell. it ain't the beast i fear it's the fuckin' yellow pages ;D .........2late |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by Linda_Howell on Feb 14th, 2003, 8:03pm ECHO!!!!!!!! ROTFLMAO............ OMG...ty for the laugh today. Yeah.....WTF ???? LindaH |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by jonny on Feb 14th, 2003, 8:09pm Man O man, Jack....dont you know to give them what they want........with a twist......LOL ...................................jonny |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by 2late on Feb 14th, 2003, 8:17pm i was wasted 'bro, back in the day i drank whiskey & it gave me a serious attitude prob. today i drink what i can handle mostly beer, i still get in trouble sometimes but no attitude ;D ...........2late Jack HONK-O-RAMA!! |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by jonny on Feb 14th, 2003, 8:22pm on 02/14/03 at 20:17:42, 2late wrote:
LMMFAO......LOL ;D ..........................jonny |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by marty on Feb 15th, 2003, 6:30am I am so totally with Echo on this one.. John, to bad that you became a "victim" :-X Suggestion for ya: If this happens again (you becoming a "victim"), then in a calm voice explain that you have a medical problem and be sure that the meds that you are asking for are valid emergency meds. The cops (at least in CA) will have to check up on it - most jails have access to a medical staff - and if you told them that you needed Verapamil.. what do you think that the Dr would tell the cops when they checked.. By the way.. the plastic cage.. ??? ours are made of metal in CA.. Don't ya just love that 5th ammendment ;D Marty |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by Silver_Dolphins on Feb 15th, 2003, 8:09am You will catch more bees with honey than vinegar is the rule here. It sounds like you tried to challenge the police. They don't like that. When you realize that you are no longer in charge of the situation, rule one is CALM DOWN. The reality is that you are going to jail so you need to asure your health will not be at risk while incarcerated. Say nothing as to the offense you are charged with. This is all hindsight. Lets talk about the future. Now, to correct the "injustices". Have you called a lawyer? If not, have you considered ACLU representation. Local police departments LOVE the ACLU. You might have a case of endangerment while in custody. I don't know, that will be for your legal beagle to figure out. But if you do, I would seek not only real damages, but also punitive damages. In either case, get in touch with a reputable attorney. I had a legal issue once, and decided not skimp with finding the bargain and went with a well known lawyer. He was expensive but the charges went away immediately after I met with him. It was well worth it. Good luck. |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by Ann on Feb 15th, 2003, 9:14am This will be harsh, but I have to say it. It's the teacher in me! Next time, keep your nose clean and you won't have to relive this situation. I can't believe that the police would all of a sudden decide to arrest you, or even approach you, just for talking to a friend. Life just doesn't work that way. You must have looked suspicious or have been doing something you weren't suppose to. As to your lawsuit/media attention thingy.... forget it! Like Margi and Ted mentioned, verapamil is a preventative not an abortive. You will only be giving us bad publicity, and we don't need it. That being said, I AM sorry you got hit. The beast knows no pity. hugs Ann |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by jonny on Feb 15th, 2003, 9:19am Ann, you are a mean, mean woman....LMMFAO ;D .........................jonny :D HONKOLA |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by Ann on Feb 15th, 2003, 9:29am LMAO Jonny!!! You think I should have put a couple of smiley's in there somewhere? hehe I just reread it and it is a bit harsh huh? Oh well...it's posted...no regrets. Send all hate mail to everyone except me! ;D hugs Ann |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by 2late on Feb 15th, 2003, 9:59am Ann, i agree 100%, since i've been clean i've had no problems with law enfocement, although to this day if ya reach for a phonebook i go into duck & cover mode ;D take Ann's advice & clean up yer act & you'll never be in that situation again. good luck! ........2late |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by TomM on Feb 15th, 2003, 12:33pm I am a former H.S. teacher and did my share of law enforcement so I must agree with Ann and Echo. I'm not an attorney, although I'm married to one but do not play one on TV ;), but I'm not so sure the 4th ammendment applies when a officer places you in custody. He/she can check your pockets :'( for thier and your personal safety and it has nothing to do with your 4th rights. It's called a pat down; not search. If you don't have anything illegal in your pockets they won't find it now, will they? Just a thought ;) About 10 years ago I got into a barroom brawl and was giving shit to the bouncers and cops UNTIL they told me I was under arrest. I shut up like a clam, said nothing and co-operated with EVERYTHING they wanted. [This also happened in the middle of my law enforcement days]. They were astonished and asked "Why?" I meakly responded that if I continued the charges would go from disorderly conduct to resisting arrest and assault. I knew when to STFU. :-X Moral of the story: If you really think you're innocent and your rights have been violated, then STFU, do as you are asked, and play the game. Be cool. 8) Then you hire a lawyer, if and only if, you have a case against them. 9.999999 times out of 10 you won't have a case. The most important piece of information to take from this, and this comes from my wife/attorney even for a traffic ticket, admit nothing to the police. You have the right to say NOTHING, so don't. All you will end up doing is incriminate yourself or dig a deeper hole if you do not. That is called your Miranda Rights, so use them. Of course, this is just my opinion. I could be wrong. TomM |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by Karla on Feb 15th, 2003, 3:29pm Even I as a dumb blond know that if you do something shady ya risk getting arrested. What does arrested mean? Being locked up without access to meds. It is a no brainer. Sorry dude that is the facts and you have to accept it and live with it. Why is everybody so sue happy these days? :-/ Honkeneh |
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Title: Re: Police Harasment Post by StanTheMan on Feb 15th, 2003, 4:06pm Well put, Tom! Excellent post! StanTheMan |
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