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Title: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by SommelierCH on Jan 18th, 2003, 8:48am
This is for the people who emailed me with questions about wine. Most of the questions were about big, red wines, so here the Cabernet Sauvignon selections from my wine list, this week. I bought extra 1997 California Cabs after I tasted the 1998’s on release. I taste all the wines before I will add them to the list, so everything here is at least good, if not outstanding. You probably won’t find many 1997’s hanging around so look for 1999 for CA reds. In general, pass on the 1998’s (year of the El Nino, cool, cloud cover and rain). I am swamped with work, but I will eventually try to get to individual answers. Yes, the wines are expensive on this list, but I am in Downtown Beverly Hills….. you know, “Why pay less”.

Uh..this doesn't translate well to the MB. Price is the last number.

                       
     CABERNET SAUVIGNON AND BLENDS                  
                       
400      Chateau Souverain, Alexander Valley      1998      32      8
401      Kunde, Sonoma      1998      48      12
403      Honig, Napa Valley      1998      49      
404      Stonestreet,  Alexander Valley      1997      68      
402      Jordan, Sonoma County      1998      78      
405      De Loach, "OFS", Russian River Valley      1997      85      
406      Cakebread Cellars, Napa Valley      1999      85      
408      Cakebread Cellars, Napa Valley      1997      119      
409      Pepperbridge, Walla Walla Valley, Washington      1999      91      
415      Beaulieu Vineyards, "Georges de Latour, Private Reserve", Napa Valley      1984      218      
416      Beaulieu Vineyards, "Georges de Latour, Private Reserve", Napa Valley      1980      218      
412      Groth,  Oakville, Napa Valley      1999      95      
454      Groth, "Reserve", Oakville, Napa Valley      1997      270
448      York Creek Vineyards, "Spring Mountain District", Napa Valley      1997      95
407      Lancaster, "Reserve", Alexander Valley      1999      100
413      Constant, "Diamond Creek Mountain Vineyard", Napa Valley      1997      110
414      Pine Ridge Winery, "Howell Mountain", Napa Valley      1997      110
417      Flora Springs, "Trilogy", Napa Valley      1999      110
418      Flora Springs, "Trilogy", Napa Valley      1998      120
456      Steltzner Vineyards, "Stags Leap District", "Reserve", Napa Valley      1999      115
419      Del Dotto, Napa Valley      1997      115
410      Chateau St. Jean, "Cinq Cepages", Sonoma County      1998      115
420      Chateau St. Jean, "Cinq Cepages", Sonoma County      1997      145
451      Dyer, "Diamond Mountain", Napa Valley      1996      115
422      Silver Oak, Alexander Valley      1998      120
424      Silver Oak, Alexander Valley      (1.5 L)      1997      Mag.    355
426      Silver Oak, Napa Valley               (1.5 L)      1997      Mag.    450
430      Silver Oak, Napa Valley               (1.5 L)      1996      Mag.    525
438      Hourglass, Napa Valley      1998      120
439      Hourglass, Napa Valley      1997      165
440      Jarvis, "Lake William", Napa Valley      1997      122
445      Jarvis, Napa Valley      1997      155
449      Kendall-Jackson, "Stature", Napa Valley      1997      165
450      Heitz Cellars, "Bella Oaks", Napa Valley      1997      145
455      Heitz Cellars, "Martha's Vineyard", Napa Valley      1997      254
464      Heitz Cellars, "Martha's Vineyard", Napa Valley      1987      390
465      Heitz Cellars, "Martha's Vineyard", Napa Valley      1986      395
457      Beringer, "Private Reserve", Napa Valley      1997      140
458      Beringer, "Private Reserve", Napa Valley      1996      175
459      Beringer, "Private Reserve", Napa Valley      1994      245
466      William Hill, "Aura", Napa Valley      1997      185
467      Chateau Montelena, "Estate", Napa Valley      1998      145
421      Robert Mondavi, "Reserve", Napa Valley      1997      190
423      Niebaum-Coppola, "Rubicon", Napa Valley      1997      165
900      Niebaum-Coppola, "Rubicon", Napa Valley      1995      280
901      Niebaum-Coppola, "Rubicon", Napa Valley      1993      321
902      Niebaum-Coppola, "Rubicon", Napa Valley      1990      385
903      Sterling Vineyards, "Reserve", Napa Valley      1997      188
904      Caymus, Napa Valley      1999      120
460      Caymus, Napa Valley      1997      188
463      Caymus, "Special Selection", Napa Valley      1997      375
446      Caymus, "Special Selection", Napa Valley      1994      625
447      Caymus, "Special Selection", Napa Valley      1987      662
905      Stags Leap Wine Cellars, "Fay", Napa Valley        1999      172
906      Stags Leap Wine Cellars, "S.L.V.", Napa Valley      1999      172
907      Stags Leap Wine Cellars, "Cask 23", Napa Valley        1999      260
908      Stags Leap Wine Cellars, "Fay", Napa Valley              (375 ml.)      1997      Half      127
909      Stags Leap Wine Cellars, "S.L.V.", Napa Valley          (375 ml.)      1997      Half      127
910      Stags Leap Wine Cellars, "Cask 23", Napa Valley       (375 ml.)      1997      Half      152
427      Far Niente, Napa Valley      1997      220
428      Silverado, "Limited Reserve", Napa Valley      1997      175
911      Simi, "Reserve", Alexander Valley      1997      175

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Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by SommelierCH on Jan 18th, 2003, 8:49am
     CABERNET SAUVIGNON AND BLENDS, CONTINUED            
                 
                 
461      Joseph Phelps Vineyards, "Insignia",Napa Valley      1998      186
462      Joseph Phelps Vineyards, "Insignia",Napa Valley      1999      186
431      Joseph Phelps Vineyards, "Eisele Vineyard", Napa Valley      1985      287
912      Joseph Phelps Vineyards, "Insignia",Napa Valley      (1.5 L.)      1999      Mag.    385
429      Kalin Cellars, "Reserve", Sonoma County      1992      190
452      Spring Mountain Vineyard, "Reserve", Napa Valley      1997      255
453      Grgich Hills, "Yountville Selection", Napa Valley      1994      260
432      Cardinale, Napa/Sonoma      1999      220
913      Opus One, Napa Valley       (375ml.)      1998      Half    120
435      Opus One, Napa Valley       (375ml.)      1995      Half    155
436      Opus One, Napa Valley       (375ml.)      1994      Half    170
914      Opus One, Napa Valley      1998      220
928      Opus One, Napa Valley      1997      270
915      Opus One, Napa Valley      1995      320
916      Opus One, Napa Valley      1993      320
917      Opus One, Napa Valley      1992      340
918      Opus One, Napa Valley      1991      355
919      Opus One, Napa Valley       (1.5 L.)      1996      Mag.    835
920      Opus One, Napa Valley       (3 L.)      1996      Db. Mg.  1812
921      Diamond Creek, "Volcanic Hill", Napa Valley      1997      275
922      Diamond Creek, "Gravelly Meadow", Napa Valley      1997      275
923      Diamond Creek, "Red Rock Terrace", Napa Valley      1997      275
924      Diamond Creek, "Gravelly Meadow", Napa Valley      1993      275
441      Diamond Creek, "Volcanic Hill", Napa Valley      1991      295
442      Dominus, "Napanook Vineyard", Napa Valley      1985      287
443      Dunn, Napa Valley      1985      287
444      Dunn, "Howell Mountain", Napa Valley      1987      425
925      Ridge, "Monte Bello", California      1992      315
926      Ridge, "Monte Bello", California      1991      330
927      Ridge, "Monte Bello", Santa Cruz Mountains      1990      355
425      Z.D., "Abacus", Napa Valley (Solera style, Reserve Vintages 1992-1999)       M.V.      432
                 
                 

471      Chateau Brane-Cantenac, Margaux      1982      212
472      Chateau Palmer, Margaux      1986      287
473      Chateau Margaux, Margaux      1995      950
474      Chateau Talbot, St. Julien      1982      315
475      Chateau Cos-D'Estournel, St. Estephe      1996      205
476      Chateau Cos d' Estournel, St. Estephe      1995      220
477      Chateau Cos-D'Estournel, St. Estephe      1982      430
478      Chateau Haut Brion, Graves      1978      450
479      Chateau Haut Brion, Graves      1985      460
480      Chateau Lynch Bages, Pauillac      1996      150
481      Chateau Lynch-Bages, Pauillac      1988      225
482      Chateau Pichon-Longueville-Baron, Pauillac      1995      185
483      Chateau Lafite Rothschild, Pauillac      1976      495
484      Chateau Lafite Rothschild, Pauillac      1978      425
485      Chateau Lafite Rothschild, Pauillac      1985      410
487      Chateau Lafite Rothschild, Pauillac      1989      455
488      Chateau Mouton Rothschild, Pauillac      1982      1295
489      Chateau Latour, Pauillac      1975      475
490      Chateau Latour, Pauillac      1982      1390

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by rick on Jan 20th, 2003, 2:31am

on 01/18/03 at 08:48:22, SommelierCH wrote:
In general, pass on the 1998’s (year of the El Nino, cool, cloud cover and rain).           


David,

Is this a result of the weather altering what you or others were expecting from these wines in terms of their characteristics, or did El Nino damage their overall quality?

-R

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by jonny on Jan 20th, 2003, 2:44am
Can anyone answer this question?

Who gives a fuck!!!!!

...............jonny  

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by rick on Jan 20th, 2003, 2:51am
Jonny,

When you deal with wine for a living, it's interesting.

Next we'll talk about lube oil so that we can keep your attention.

;DR

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by jonny on Jan 20th, 2003, 2:57am
Sorry Rick......I dont do oil

......................jonny

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by Linda_Howell on Jan 20th, 2003, 5:06am


I do.....use a lot of oil that is..However between Cathi's Corvette and my Merc.     hmmmmmmm   no telling how much oil we use on  monthly basis.   I say it's time to have a glass of wine instead.   How about you Cathi?

Linda

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by Charlie on Jan 20th, 2003, 6:41am
Thanks. I learn something every day.

Theres nothing like a good can of wine.

Charlie

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by jmorgan52 on Jan 20th, 2003, 7:59am
In wine there is wisdom
In beer there is strength
in water there is bacteria

German proverb

PS thanks Jonny for making me laugh

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by SommelierCH on Jan 22nd, 2003, 7:00am
Jonny,  The damn stuff gets you real warm and drunk, and makes women DOUBLE-JOINTED!!! But it’s frigging expensive and not all of it is good. Sooo….people follow the weather cycles during growing season, just like any other crop. Wine is made in the land, by the farmers and growers, not in the winery by the winemaker.

Rick,  In 1998, El Nino changed the weather pattern in CA (below Mendocino) from a sunny, hot, dry summer and fall, to cloudy, cool, moist. Cloudy and cool were the killers. Grapes with thick skins like cabernet sauvignon need heat and sunlight to fully ripen. 1998 produced a lot of under ripe, green, herbaceous flavors, like green bell pepper, canned peas, asparagus etc. not the flavors I’m looking for in a red wine. Some wineries knew their land and compensated for the weather and made good red wines, but in general (especially since the 1999’s are out) stay away from 1998 CA reds.

PFDAN

David J.

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by BobG on Jan 22nd, 2003, 7:51am
jmorgan..............
the German that said that may have been my Uncle Skeeter. He also said "Water is to wash for underwear in."

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by jonny on Jan 22nd, 2003, 8:25am

on 01/22/03 at 07:00:40, SommelierCH wrote:
Jonny,  The damn stuff gets you real warm and drunk, and makes women DOUBLE-JOINTED!!!


Ill take a case ;D

.............jonny ;D

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by SommelierCH on Jan 22nd, 2003, 8:46am
Hiya Jonny, what are you doing up so early?

As far as the wine goes, I thought you'd see it that way!  ;D

David J.  ;D

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by jonny on Jan 22nd, 2003, 8:55am

on 01/22/03 at 08:46:28, SommelierCH wrote:
Hiya Jonny, what are you doing up so early?


Trying to get an early flight out of this hell hole, its colder here than in Boston.

....................jonny ;)





Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by SommelierCH on Jan 22nd, 2003, 9:04am
Good luck, man. Have a great flight. At least no one-armed bandits got ahold of you. Unless the babe's were missing a limb.

David J.

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by Charlie on Jan 22nd, 2003, 9:07pm
Hope all goes well with your flight.

Remember to surrender your nail clippers (not dangerous but I guess they don't like you to be annoying  :D )

Also, for god's sake don't forget to register your shoes.

Your .357 is probably okay though....

Charlie

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by rick on Jan 23rd, 2003, 1:48am
David,

I was just curious as to if the cooler weather would create some Bordeaux like qualities or just plain spoil the batch.  Good knowledge to have, Gracias.... 8)

-R



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