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(Message started by: fubar on May 21st, 2008, 12:25pm)
Title: Hoodrat
Post by fubar on May 21st, 2008, 12:25pm
This country just gets smarter and smarter.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GLeVlBca5lg

I would batbeat the ever lovin' shit out of this child (and his parents) and gladly do time for it.  I guess that makes me as smart as they are.
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by Racer1_NC on May 21st, 2008, 12:37pm
"I wanted to do some hoodrat stuff..."   ::)

We're doomed.
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on May 21st, 2008, 3:48pm
You can't punish the kid.
If you sent him to the corner to take a time out, he might be sad, and that might curtail his individuality.
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by Brew on May 21st, 2008, 3:53pm

on 05/21/08 at 15:48:12, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
You can't punish the kid.
If you sent him to the corner to take a time out, he might be sad, and that might curtail his individuality.

Not to mention the damage it might do to his self-esteem.
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by BarbaraD on May 21st, 2008, 5:24pm
Good grief!!!! If that were my kid (no, my kid KNEW better!) he wouldn't be sitting down for the next year - the hell with his self-esteem. And CPS be damned!

That kid needs some parenting BIG TIME!

Hugs BD
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by Jonny on May 21st, 2008, 6:32pm
In jail or dead before hes 18!  :(
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by fubar on May 21st, 2008, 6:43pm

on 05/21/08 at 18:32:20, Jonny wrote:
In jail or dead before hes 18!  :(


Goin' out on a limb there Jonny with that prediction, aren't ya?
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by Jonny on May 21st, 2008, 6:47pm

on 05/21/08 at 18:43:48, fubar wrote:
Goin' out on a limb there Jonny with that prediction, aren't ya?


Nope, thats what my Mother told me and I was nowhere near as fucked up as that kid at that age.
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by Brew on May 21st, 2008, 6:50pm

on 05/21/08 at 15:53:40, Brew wrote:
Not to mention the damage it might do to his self-esteem.

Do I have to include visible tags every time I'm being sarcastic?

[ sarcasm ] Not to mention the damage it might do to his self-esteem. [ /sarcasm ]
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by zwibbs/Scott on May 21st, 2008, 7:06pm

on 05/21/08 at 18:50:01, Brew wrote:
Do I have to include visible tags every time I'm being sarcastic?

[ sarcasm ] Not to mention the damage it might do to his self-esteem. [ /sarcasm ]

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Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on May 21st, 2008, 7:19pm

on 05/21/08 at 18:50:01, Brew wrote:
Do I have to include visible tags every time I'm being sarcastic?


No, Bro.  The thought of someone thinking you are serious is just as funny as the sarcasm.
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by stevegeebe on May 21st, 2008, 7:58pm
Future Darwin Award Winner.

We should be so lucky.

Steve G
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by Linda_Howell on May 21st, 2008, 8:07pm

Jonny, I was thinking the same thing.  That child has major problems.
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by fubar on May 21st, 2008, 8:12pm
No doubt, this kid is going to be in jail or dead sooner than later.
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by BarbaraD on May 22nd, 2008, 8:12am
Brew I knew it was sarcasm - I was being sarcastic too...

I just got riled up at the kid's attitude - "I just thought it would be "fun" to hit those cars"... And that policeman trying to 'reason' with him... "Now you understand this is wrong..." Hell no he didn't CARE!

This kid needs to go to BOOT CAMP! But I still think he needs his BUTT spanked really well and OFTEN!

Hugs BD
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by LeLimey on May 22nd, 2008, 8:46am
I am gobsmacked that this child is seven! FOr one, the sheer size of him and for two.. it would no more occur to Jasper than it would to jump off a cliff! I know Jasper isn't seven until the end of August but that means at most, there is a year between him and this kid.

He is no kid though, where is his childhood? WTF is he watching on TV and being exposed to every day to make him like this?

He may well be dead at 18, but it won't be the death of a kid 'cos sadly, he is no "kid" now.

FFS lets let kids BE kids. At most you can say you have 16 years in which to be a kid, after that you're a grown up in more ways than not and you'll never get another chance to have the joy of childhood. If nothing else in life, we should all have that.  :-/
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by fubar on May 22nd, 2008, 1:48pm
Helen,

That 'kid' lives with his grandma, so odds aren't all that great  that he has any parental 'supervision' at all.  And did you notice the grandma wasn't even that old?  I'm thinking teenage single mommie, probably a gang member, and you can bet that child gets all of his counseling from other fine upstanding gang-affiliated adults.  Nobody is going to let that kid be a kid, it's not feasible.  The parents obviously don't give a crap, and the grandma feels like she can't even discipline the kid because in these parts you get thrown in jail for that.

FYI, when I was being investigated by Child Protective Services, I was told that I could have my parental rights taken away for merely raising my voice.  I'm not joking.  Here in California, you can't even yell at your kid.  This happened after I threw a fit and trashed my daughter's room because she was destroying everything in the house (except for her stuff don'tcha know).  Lucky for me, I had a sympathetic investigator and she dropped the case immediately after interviewing everybody, but it could have gone either way.  As parents, we have NO rights.

Here, it is illegal for you to confine your child in any way (Go to your room!, not).  It is LEGAL for a child to run away.  It is illegal for you to kick your kid out of the house, even if they are over 18 (you have to give them a real eviction notice and go to court).  It is illegal to intimidate your child with loud or abusive language (define abusive?).  Ya, we pretty much have been castrated as parents.
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by Paul98 on May 22nd, 2008, 2:40pm

on 05/22/08 at 13:48:03, fubar wrote:
Helen,

That 'kid' lives with his grandma, so odds aren't all that great  that he has any parental 'supervision' at all.  And did you notice the grandma wasn't even that old?  I'm thinking teenage single mommie, probably a gang member, and you can bet that child gets all of his counseling from other fine upstanding gang-affiliated adults.  Nobody is going to let that kid be a kid, it's not feasible.  The parents obviously don't give a crap, and the grandma feels like she can't even discipline the kid because in these parts you get thrown in jail for that.

FYI, when I was being investigated by Child Protective Services, I was told that I could have my parental rights taken away for merely raising my voice.  I'm not joking.  Here in California, you can't even yell at your kid.  This happened after I threw a fit and trashed my daughter's room because she was destroying everything in the house (except for her stuff don'tcha know).  Lucky for me, I had a sympathetic investigator and she dropped the case immediately after interviewing everybody, but it could have gone either way.  As parents, we have NO rights.

Here, it is illegal for you to confine your child in any way (Go to your room!, not).  It is LEGAL for a child to run away.  It is illegal for you to kick your kid out of the house, even if they are over 18 (you have to give them a real eviction notice and go to court).  It is illegal to intimidate your child with loud or abusive language (define abusive?).  Ya, we pretty much have been castrated as parents.


Problem is FU that "society" has enabled Social Services become more relavant than parents.  It is one big huge copout for the grandmother in that video to say she can't tan that kids backside.  If some social worker stuck their face in mine about diciplining a child that did what that kid did I would go fucking apeshit on them and make such a stink in the media and courts the social worker would be fired and be run out of town.

People just don't take a stand anymore because they want government to do it all for them.  That kid is the oppitomy of the of the problem!

-P.
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by BarbaraD on May 22nd, 2008, 3:07pm
That's because parents let the damn government get away with it. I'm sorry, but I'd fight to the death if someone tried to tell me how to raise my kid.

In fact I "dared" Caleb's daycare to call CPS when they found a bite mark on him and brought it to my attention. I put it there and told them so (how else do you break a kid from biting?). The Principal saw my way of thinking and decided that was a good way to break a kid of biting. We didn't have any more problems after that.

Parents just need to start "parenting" again and tell the govt to go stick it up their rear. Since they got into "our" business our kids have gone to hell in a handbasket (or a whole lot of them have). Schools are NOT babysitters and parents should be held responsible for their kids.

UGHHHHHH! I could really get on my soapbox about parents and govt interferrence these days.... I guess those of us who still give a damn about how our kids are raised will just keep doing what we think is best and let the rest go to blazes.....

Hugs BD
Title: Re: Hoodrats
Post by fubar on May 22nd, 2008, 4:08pm
I agree and disagree at the same time... Yes, you could say that parents aren't standing up and fighting, but that's not the whole story.  I don't want to turn this into a political diatribe, but the liberals that control California are the source of the problem here.  We have more laws 'for the good of the children' than any other state.  I don't think I've ever heard of a law being passed for 'the good of the parents'.  These bleeding hearts will pass any legislation that gives the state more say/control in raising your child.  They tax us to death so they can have resources 'for the good of the children' then they waste it and whine for more.  We have the worst education in America, but we spend the most per child (nearly anyway, on both counts).  It's not all the parents... for example when CPS was interviewing me, I told them what I did, then told them why AND I said I would do it again.  I told them no law was going to stop me from PARENTING my child, and if they wanted to go to court about it, I would happily defend my right to parent my child.  I did nothing wrong, and hopefully a jury of my peers (meaning, other parents!) would say the same.
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by nani on May 22nd, 2008, 5:06pm
Yeah... if it wasn't for liberals, the poor and minorities, America would be just peachy.  ::)

Me? I could sit around and complain ad nauseum... but I prefer to try to be the change I want to see in the world (thanks Gandhi).

Spend a little time rubbing elbows with these kids... they start out as pure and innocent as every other kid. What they need are mentors, and people who give a shit.

And yeah, I know, their parents should give a shit...but...

Alas, it's not a perfect world.

This place is beginning to remind me of the bench outside the barber shop in any smalltown in the states. Those guys have all the answers... and just sit there and do nothing about anything.
Title: Re: Hoodrat
Post by fubar on May 22nd, 2008, 5:15pm
Nani, it's not a coincidence that we are the most liberal state and we have the worst problems in this area, but I can't blame it all on liberals. The poor can be blamed too, if you want.  :P

But seriously, it's not just the liberals... budget problems made Ronald Reagan pass a bill here (as governor) that nixed the law that made it illegal to run away.  Seems cops were spending too much time retrieving wayward youths.

I have no solutions, but I am moving out of this state.  Not like I'm moving to a conservative stronghold though... Boston is pretty much the same a California politically.


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