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(Message started by: fubar on Apr 14^th, 2008, 6:29pm)

Title: How much is your gas now?
Post by fubar on Apr 14^th, 2008, 6:29pm

I saw this yesterday. Times are a changin'. Welcome to reality folks.

For the non-US people here, sorry we whine so much. It's what we do.

http://www.nunleys.com/gas.jpg

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Callico on Apr 14^th, 2008, 6:34pm

That is precisely why I don't take any California loads!!! I've been seeing diesel for anywhere from 3.919 to 4.699. Filled up my pickup last Wednesday at 3.919 in SC and spent $502.02. Wasn't even empty.

Jerry

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by fubar on Apr 14^th, 2008, 6:38pm

I kind of prefer getting loaded in California. ;;D

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by chewy on Apr 14^th, 2008, 6:40pm

Averaging $3.15 per gallon.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 14^th, 2008, 6:44pm

I got regular today for $3.47. I was sitting in the car thinking of only a few years ago when i was concerned it was costing me almost $25 to fill up.
:-/

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by tanner on Apr 14^th, 2008, 6:44pm

Wow!!

That's about how much diesel is going for up here which is driving a lot of the truckers into bankruptcy but so far our gas is a mere $3.70 or so ::)

as far as our non American friends.....screw em :)...if we lived where they live we could ride our bikes to get from one place to another.......except for the Australians of course and everyone knows that if you leave the strip of land along the ocean the rest of the continent is full of........ummm nothing much so why waste the gas ;)....tim

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by barry_sword on Apr 14^th, 2008, 7:03pm

$4.18 us gallon here. $1.10 per liter x 3.8, right? I am not good at conversions, but told to do it this way. Sorry if I am wrong with my math. :-[

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Apr 14^th, 2008, 7:05pm

And for this "non-American friend" - (whatever in hell that means ;)) - our gas today was $1.15 per litre.

When I was in Florida two weeks ago - the gas station across from our hotel had gas for $3.25/gal.

However, we slice it - it's getting damnably expensive to operate vehicles.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Jackie on Apr 14^th, 2008, 7:12pm

$3.42 when I came home....It will be different in the morning.....changes fast!

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Bob P on Apr 14^th, 2008, 7:18pm

Hey Fuub,

The guy who has the station in Gorda, up the coast, is charging about the same. When they asked him why he was charging so much, he said, "Cause I can."

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by tanner on Apr 14^th, 2008, 7:30pm

on 04/14/08 at 19:05:27, Grandma_Sweet_Boy wrote:

oops.....forgot about my nieghbors to the immediate north who of course I never want to insult even in jest since you can pee my stream so to speak..

Hugz and Love.....even if you are way too fast at trivia.....tim

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Redd on Apr 14^th, 2008, 7:43pm

Was 3.39 here this morning, but who knws what tomorrow brings.... :-/

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by chewy on Apr 14^th, 2008, 7:52pm

Quote:

How much is your gas now?

Free with corned beef and cabbage.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Paul98 on Apr 14^th, 2008, 8:23pm

In Central NY it is $3.49 / gal reg and ~ $4.30 diesel. I feel bad for the truckers.

It isn't going to get any better folks and the price of food will go up further too. Loaf of bread is now $3. Milk, ~$4 /gal. Lettuce $2 / head

-P.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by artonio7 on Apr 14^th, 2008, 8:29pm

In Western Pa... Regular is $3.49 a gallon here... I filled up my '93 Ford Ranger a few days ago and it cost me about $67.00.

With the right strategy and proper wind conditions... I'll bet I can make this tank of gas last till the end of next December.

with warm regards,
Tony

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Racer1_NC on Apr 14^th, 2008, 8:47pm

West Central NC....

3.34 - regular unleaded
4.09 - diesel

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Groov on Apr 14^th, 2008, 8:54pm

I only run premium in my X-Runner....seems it was about $3.55 a gal. last week when I filled up...OUCH !!!!

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by john_d on Apr 14^th, 2008, 8:58pm

I just paid 3.32 @ the cheapest station in town. Going to the grocery store is alot of fun too, seems like my bill is from 2-3 times more than usual. The good news is that I hear that the demand for high end gourmet groceries like $140 bottles of olive oil has actually increased. Go figure.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Linda_Howell on Apr 14^th, 2008, 9:15pm

3.79 in far Northern Calif. . I'm staying home a lot. :-/

Quote:

even if you are way too fast at trivia.....tim

Yeah Tim...don't she just get yer goat? No one should be able to read that fast, type and be correct too. It ain't American. Oops, I forgot she isn't. ;;D

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Ree on Apr 14^th, 2008, 9:27pm

Massachusetts is still around 3.17- 3.24 regular unleaded... I saw diesel for 4.25 somewhere. We have to do something about this... its killing everyone...

I went food shopping today too and even pasta is up over a buck a box... a can of Campbells soup is 1.20 ish... Whatssssssss up with that... at this rate... when we are elderley we won't be able to eat or go anywhere. Pretty sad.

We just bought a jeep with a 4.0 to replace my v6 SUV.
Dave doesnt drive his awesome truck with the bling... he is driving my Dad's 1996 PLYMOUTH BREEZE... it still has under 30,000 miles in it and is a great commuter car for him... I promise not to complain if Gas goes back to 2.00 and I thought I would never say that... this is crazy coo coo...

love ree

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Jonny on Apr 14^th, 2008, 9:28pm

$0.00 ;)

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Ree on Apr 14^th, 2008, 9:30pm

on 04/14/08 at 21:28:08, Jonny wrote:

$0.00 ;)

we're not talking about that kind of gas ;;D

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Linda_Howell on Apr 14^th, 2008, 9:38pm

No Ree, what he's saying is that he has a Company vehicle and hasn't paid for gas himself for the last (enter amout) years.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Groov on Apr 14^th, 2008, 10:45pm

on 04/14/08 at 21:15:09, Linda_Howell wrote:

3.79 in far Northern Calif. . I'm staying home a lot. :-/

Sucks don't it Linda !!!
>:(

I used to like to visit friends out of town, go out of town to try a new restaurant or just take her for a spin thru the park.

Now I do very little of that. I no longer drive to Champaign Ill. (about 40 miles away from here)...I just have the drum shop ship out my stuff and my son has the art store there ship to him as well.

The cost of fuel has made USPS shipping the only way I buy anymore. To drive to the drum shop for a few new drum heads costs 3 or 4 times what it does to simply have it shipped :-[ >:( >:( >:(

Dave

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by CostaRicaKris on Apr 15^th, 2008, 12:08am

Just paid $3.99 in San Diego

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Charlie on Apr 15^th, 2008, 1:08am

Jamestown, New York: $3.48

Charlie...who remembers gas at about 26 cents.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by tanner on Apr 15^th, 2008, 2:22am

OK Charlie, you have me beat, but only by a few cents. I clearly remember 32 [smiley=twocents.gif] and "gas wars"! :)

............tim

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by The mad viking on Apr 15^th, 2008, 4:53am

$2,1 USD for 1 litre of gas here.ONE LITRE

Svenn

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by jimmers on Apr 15^th, 2008, 6:36am

I just wonder what the excuse will be this time?

1. It's leap year.?

2. Easter was in March?

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by gizmo on Apr 15^th, 2008, 9:18am

8,24$ per gallon diesel
8,57$ per gallon unleaded

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by fubar on Apr 15^th, 2008, 10:41am

FTW!

on 04/15/08 at 09:18:04, gizmo wrote:

8,24$ per gallon diesel
8,57$ per gallon unleaded

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by midwestbeth on Apr 15^th, 2008, 11:11am

$3.49 to $3.59 here in Illinois just across the river from St. Louis. Cheaper in Mo, but still not worth the drive.

Beth

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by gizmo on Apr 15^th, 2008, 11:24am

on 04/15/08 at 10:41:59, fubar wrote:

FTW!

One of the reasons why the Europeans tend to drive smaller cars ;)

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by aubmari on Apr 15^th, 2008, 12:45pm

We just went from $3.18 to $3.38 her in Montana. Looking at some of the others I am not going to complain at all :o

Aumari

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by echo on Apr 15^th, 2008, 1:29pm

$3.29 a few minutes ago.

I remember $0.19.9 when I was a junior in HS.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by cash5542 on Apr 15^th, 2008, 6:22pm

Last week I bought gas before work for $3.09. When I got out of work, same day, it was $3.12. I bought gas today at the same station for $3.22. The price is bad enough but the jumps are awful high. I live in a resort beach town so Memorial Day always brings price goughing.

I drove to DC last Friday and prices ranged from $3.16 to $3.79 closer to DC.

I remember in the 70's alternating gas purchases and Virginia possibly having my license delayed a year to defray gas costs.

Charlotte

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Charlie on Apr 16^th, 2008, 12:42am

It costs more to fill up my gas can that I use for the lawnmower than it did to fill up my dad's old Packard.

Charlie

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Annette on Apr 16^th, 2008, 6:10am

I thought US troops were sent to Iraq so that the US could control the oil price, amongst other things ?

What went wrong there ? [smiley=huh.gif]

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by deltadarlin on Apr 16^th, 2008, 8:35am

on 04/16/08 at 06:10:58, Annette wrote:

I thought US troops were sent to Iraq so that the US could control the oil price, amongst other things ?

What went wrong there ? [smiley=huh.gif]

To my knowledge, the US has never controlled oil prices. Oil production/pricing is controlled by OPEC (made up of the following countries~Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Qatar, Indonesia, Libya, UAE, Algeria, Nigeria, and Angola. Other countries have been members, but dropped out).

The problem is the weak US dollar.

BTW, unleaded regular is between $3.21 and $3.29.

Taxes on US gasoline (including Federal excise taxes) range from a low of .26 in Alaska to .53 cents in Hawaii.

What I don't understand is why is it perfectly acceptable to drill in the Gulf of Mexico, but we can't drill 200 miles off the Atlantic coast.

And ethanol wouldn't be so attractive if the US removed the price supports in place (plus ethanol is NOT enviornmentally friendly).

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Redd on Apr 16^th, 2008, 8:56am

It was still 3.39 this morning, but stations here don't post new prices until 10 am or later.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 16^th, 2008, 10:23am

on 04/16/08 at 06:10:58, Annette wrote:

I thought US troops were sent to Iraq so that the US could control the oil price, amongst other things ?

What went wrong there ? [smiley=huh.gif]

Nothing went wrong, what do you mean? Crude oil and gasoline are at record prices. Oil profits are at record levels too.
Nothing went wrong. Mission Accomplished.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by fubar on Apr 16^th, 2008, 12:49pm

Um, last I checked, England and most of Europe had higher gas prices than we do. I just got back from Iceland where I saw $8 or more.

Mission accomplished? Look, you can blame the evil administration for all your troubles (or, like most liberals, blame the evil administration for other people's troubles, but I digress) but the fact is our prices are *still* below the prices they pay in Europe and many developed countries. I kind of appreciate that.

We have all been enjoying artificially low prices for a long long time. Now, we are only beginning to see what the effect of a 'world economy' has on all of us. That is the reality I am talking about. These prices are here to stay, war or no war, with or without evil republicans or angelic democrats.

And 'record profits'... what a croc! Oil companies barely make a 15% margin, so they aren't exactly printing money. There are far more profitable businesses to be in, and they're made villains for providing something that is absolutely demanded at any price. A 15% margin is nothing.

For crying out loud, if you want to complain about evil profits, look at the pharmaceuticals. They come out with new 'formulas' and have doctors convinced to switch us just to make sure we can't benefit from the savings of generics (there are many examples). That is pure evil. Oil companies are saints compared to that.

-Fu

there I go again taking the bait..

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by MJ on Apr 16^th, 2008, 12:52pm

Current gas prices across the U.S. State by state.

http://zfacts.com/p/35.html

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Paul98 on Apr 16^th, 2008, 12:56pm

on 04/16/08 at 12:49:51, fubar wrote:

We have all been enjoying artificially low prices for a long long time.

Fu, might I suggest Europe have been enjoying artificially hi prices through excessive taxes. The barrel of oil costs the same if a refinery buys it in Europe or the US.

-P.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by fubar on Apr 16^th, 2008, 1:06pm

on 04/16/08 at 12:56:57, Paul98 wrote:

Fu, might I suggest Europe have been enjoying artificially hi prices through excessive taxes. The barrel of oil costs the same if a refinery buys it in Europe or the US.

-P.

Right, which is exactly why our prices are still lower than theirs are.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Redd on Apr 16^th, 2008, 1:06pm

3.45 as I went to get lunch at the station I mentioned just a few posts up.

Drive south on this same street and there are 4 additional stations within 6 blocks all on the same side of the street, and each of those were still at 3.39.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by jimmers on Apr 16^th, 2008, 1:33pm

Yesterday when I went to the gas station I asked the attendant for $20 in gas, he farted and handed me a receipt! :D

Jimmers

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Paul98 on Apr 16^th, 2008, 1:39pm

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8da37b3127cceb7c9fa89a7b300000015100AZuWzdi0Ys2IA

-P.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by CostaRicaKris on Apr 16^th, 2008, 2:21pm

ROFLMAO!
Ain't that the truth!

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by fubar on Apr 16^th, 2008, 2:23pm

on 04/16/08 at 13:39:59, Paul98 wrote:

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8da37b3127cceb7c9fa89a7b300000015100AZuWzdi0Ys2IA

-P.

FINALLY! I can afford PREMIUM!!

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by JeffB on Apr 16^th, 2008, 2:41pm

$3.78 in the east bay area

San Francisco is higher

How about these other little topics...

Please take the time to read this.

This email comes in three parts:

Part 1

In just one year. Remember the election in 2006?

Thought you might like to read the following:

A little over one year ago:

1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:

1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value
evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

Remember, it's Congress that makes law, not the President. He has to
work with what's handed to him.

Quote of the Day........"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in
the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to
change it." -- Barack Obama

Part 2:

Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics
enlightening and amazing.

www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html

Taxes under Clinton 1999 Taxes under Bush 2008
Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250

Both democratic candidates will return to the higher tax rates

It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think
Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever.
If Obama or Hillary are elected, they both say they will repeal the Bush
tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories
above can't wait for it to happen. This is like the movie The Sting with
Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even
know what happened.

PART 3:

You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:

Boy, am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is
the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find
that to be RIDICULOUS.

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until
they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them.
I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens
each year by state governments.

Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs
such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school
education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
English!

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare &
social services by the American taxpayers.

Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused
by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's
two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,
their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the
US.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens
that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens

from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth,
heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.

Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of
mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average
cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."

Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to
their countries of origin.

Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex
Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States."

Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

Are we THAT stupid?

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by seasonalboomer on Apr 16^th, 2008, 2:46pm

Not sure. I try to look away from the time I turn the pump on, to the moment it stops pumping and I grab my receipt and stuff it in my pocket.

Scott

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Linda_Howell on Apr 16^th, 2008, 2:54pm

Denial is not just a river in Egypt, Scott. lol ;;D

What do you do when the bill comes in the mail for your gas purches and you have to write that check?

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by seasonalboomer on Apr 16^th, 2008, 3:17pm

Write it, but it's with a bunch of other charges so it's like not even knowing it happened. :)

Scott

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Linda_Howell on Apr 16^th, 2008, 3:35pm

Quote:

If I think hard enough maybe it'll go away.....

You crack me up Scott.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Jonny on Apr 16^th, 2008, 3:43pm

on 04/16/08 at 14:41:02, JeffB wrote:

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens
each year by state governments.

Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs
such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school
education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
English!

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare &
social services by the American taxpayers.

Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused
by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's
two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,
their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the
US.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens
that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens

from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth,
heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.

Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of
mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average
cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."

Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to
their countries of origin.

Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex
Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States."

Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

Are we THAT stupid?

Ive been pointing shit like this out for years! >:(

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Melissa on Apr 16^th, 2008, 3:54pm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/mfiltz/5bucks.gif

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Charlie on Apr 17^th, 2008, 12:44am

Mostly due to Republican vetoes of anything for the little guy and constant lobbying by CEOs that never have to go to Walmart.

Spending $4,000,000 and hour on Halliburton & Co. in Iraq for no bid contracts, is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

It will be nice when that veto is gone and an idoit like Bush who said today that the Pope's speech was "awesome!" (that is the infantile word he used) An unbelieveable thing to hear from a world leader. Bush still thinks that he is a cheerleader.

Charlie

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Bob P on Apr 17^th, 2008, 10:01am

Filled up yesterday - $3.89 a gallon for regular. Everything else well over $4.00 a gallon.

Sure wish them damn Republicans would let some of the Iraqui oil trickle down instead of giving it all to the CEO's for their private jets!

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Charlie on Apr 18^th, 2008, 12:58am

It would definitely be nice but then all that Iraqi oil that was going to pay for the war, seems to have dried up. Big Oil doesn't mind that at all.

Charlie

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 18^th, 2008, 10:03am

on 04/18/08 at 00:58:40, Charlie wrote:

It would definitely be nice but then all that Iraqi oil that was going to pay for the war, seems to have dried up. Big Oil doesn't mind that at all.

Charlie

There's an old classic. Remember when Bush Jr said the war was going to cost about 2 billion dollars and would be funded by Iraqi oil within 2 to 3 years?
What an idiot!!

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by brewcrew on Apr 18^th, 2008, 10:40am

The American Sheeple bought it, didn't they?

Who are the idiots?

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Charlie on Apr 18^th, 2008, 7:57pm

To give ourselves a little break; every leader loves to use conflict and fear for his own pleasure. We got all excited and it was going to be cheap.....and gee whiz...let's get them dirty A-rabs.

Nothing new but you'd think we'd be a little sharper.

Charlie

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 18^th, 2008, 8:45pm

on 04/18/08 at 10:40:24, brewcrew wrote:

The American Sheeple bought it, didn't they?

Who are the idiots?

You are right, I believe a majority of the public bought it. Those of use who think for ourselves didnt buy it for one second. In this day and age, nothing costs just a couple billion.....specially when it has to do with the military.

Its been almost 7 years and we haven't done a damn thing with 9 of the 10 countries on the terrorist watch list. We taught them a lesson: Fuck with us, and we won't do a damn thing.

Thats a good deterrent :-/

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by brewcrew on Apr 18^th, 2008, 8:54pm

on 04/18/08 at 20:45:09, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:

In this day and age, nothing costs just a couple billion.....

In 1998, our house cost $141,000.

You think I could get a couple of billion for it? ;;D

Sorry, no serious discussions for me tonight. I'm watching my Brewers beat up on the Reds.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Jonny on Apr 18^th, 2008, 9:35pm

on 04/18/08 at 20:45:09, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:

Its been almost 7 years and we haven't done a damn thing with 9 of the 10 countries on the terrorist watch list.

Are you saying we ought to fight them all at the same time?

If so, when are you signing up to fight?

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Kevin_M on Apr 19^th, 2008, 7:05am

on 04/18/08 at 10:03:38, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:

Remember when Bush Jr said the war was going to cost about 2 billion dollars...

Not an estimate that low.

Quote:

Administration figures were giving Congress an estimate of $50 billion or so, while Democratic staffers on Capitol Hill were putting it at between $30 billion to $60 billion.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/10/news/economy/costofwar.fortune/index.htm

Quote:

Before the war began in 2003, Mr Bush's officials confidently predicted that the conflict would cost about $50 billion.

http://b.casalemedia.com/V2/68610/134547/index.html?www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2720047.ece

Quote:

What would war with Iraq cost?

January 2, 2003

White House Office of Management and Budget Director Mitch Daniels told The New York Times in an interview published Tuesday that such a conflict could cost $50 billion to $60 billion -- the price tag of the 1991 Persian Gulf War.

www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/01/sproject.irq.war.cost

Quote:

Bush may ask Congress for up to $95 billion for war

March 3, 2003

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The White House is working on an emergency spending plan for a war with Iraq and may ask Congress for as much as $95 billion to cover its costs, administration sources said Wednesday.

Pentagon sources put the likely request at closer to $60 billion, a figure also cited by some officials at the White House.

www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/02/27/sprj.irq.war.cost/

Quote:

THE COST OF WAR

March 25, 2003

President Bush asked Congress Tuesday for $74.7 billion in emergency spending to fund the war in Iraq.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/jan-june03/budget_3-25.html

Quote:

In April 2004, funding the war in Iraq began to cause concern for "military officials, ... Although Congress "approved an $87 billion defense request last year,"

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Funding_the_war_in_Iraq

corrected cnn links.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Charlie on Apr 19^th, 2008, 4:53pm

on 04/18/08 at 21:35:32, Jonny wrote:

Are you saying we ought to fight them all at the same time?

If so, when are you signing up to fight?

I'm sick of the "If we don't fight them over there, we'll have to fight them over here" crap. Total BS, won't work... it's not that kind of war. They are methodical and like to wait until we have our pants down. You can't stop lunatics by behaving like them. The war has created more terrorists than ever.

I would love to see it work, but I sure don't see it. The thing is that if they get some kind of democracy, they use it and vote in something worse.

Charlie

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by outofcommission on Apr 20^th, 2008, 12:17am

on 04/14/08 at 18:34:37, Callico wrote:

ca. sucks doesn't it jerry.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Becky on Apr 20^th, 2008, 6:30am

In a garage by me it is now fetching £1.07 a litre which works out roughly(maths isn't my strong point) to over $8 a gallon :o

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Jonny on Apr 20^th, 2008, 9:30am

One step closer to the terminator!....LOL ;;D

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a4_1202277840

Edit to add: Check out this line for gas!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=44d_1208559091

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Emily on Apr 20^th, 2008, 2:21pm

I just saw £1.14 per litre here.

Eeek!!!

When I filled my car up last week (just a little Ford Focus), it cost me £58.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Paul98 on Apr 20^th, 2008, 2:29pm

I'm betting it will be $4/gal by Memorial day. Just wait and see what a loaf of bread is come next fall.

-P.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 20^th, 2008, 3:28pm

I bet it will too.
Thats only a 15% increase from here.
For those of us who drive more than the average, it hurts.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by monty on Apr 20^th, 2008, 9:28pm

on 04/16/08 at 14:41:02, JeffB wrote:

$3.78 in the east bay area

In just one year. Remember the election in 2006?

Thought you might like to read the following:

A little over one year ago:

1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:

1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value
evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

...

The election of a Democratic Congress in 2006 isn't remotely related to the problems we are seeing now. The ongoing collapse of the credit market was due to poor decisions by individuals, deregulation and Enron style creative financing by banks and mortgage companies - so much for the naive belief that the government that governs best is the government that governs least.

The price of gasoline is due to changes in the world market (increased demand, limited ability to increase supply).

One thing that is responsive to Washington's policies is the value of the dollar. It has dropped like a rock, and it wasn't because the 2006 Congress (which took office in 2007) did anything unusual. The deficit started ballooning long before that.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Jackie on Apr 22^nd, 2008, 7:47pm

$3.70 today.......WOW!!

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by George_J on Apr 22^nd, 2008, 8:05pm

$3.45 for regular today. And it's everybody, not just a few. Doesn't matter what brand, doesn't matter what gas station.

Funny how that works. ::)

George

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by superhawk2300 on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 10:49am

on 04/18/08 at 00:58:40, Charlie wrote:

It would definitely be nice but then all that Iraqi oil that was going to pay for the war, seems to have dried up. Big Oil doesn't mind that at all.

Charlie

No they don't! They are one of the few companies making record profits in this recession!

Gas prices suck, but not so much for me. My wife's Prius averages over 50 MPG no matter what BS propoganda has been put out there. 46 MPG on a bad tank worth of driving and 56 MPG on a good tanks worth.

Now if Subaru made a hybrid I'd be set with both cars!

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Melissa on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 11:09am

$3.54 :(

Was $3.49 two days ago...

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Tara Ann on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 12:01pm

Too Freakin Much!

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by nani on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 12:03pm

$3.41 yesterday >:(

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by karma on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 12:47pm

was under $3,000.00 per vessel now it's over $12,000
It's time to go back to sail.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Sandy_C on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 12:56pm

Greensboro NC area, today's prices are ranging from a low of 3.36 at places like Costco and Sam's (these are member prices). The big guys, Shell, BP, Exxon are around 3.59.

Now, let's get in our car and drive South and cross the border between NC to SC.

Low prices at the off brand stations are around 3.31. The big guys are charging around 3.39.

Notice the difference? We folks in NC are paying about 20 cents per gallon more than SC residents, because NC has this lovely gas tax, of about 20 cents a gallon that supposedly goes to pay for road improvements. Well, based on all the orange barrels that are on almost every street, they are really raking in the $$$$.

NC is one of the highest taxing states in the US, and this is not just for gas.

When we plan a drive down to SC to see our kids and granddaughter, we leave home with about a half a tank. This gets us in to SC where we tank up. On the way home, we tank up about 30 miles before the NC line, and go all the way home.

Sandy

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by brewcrew on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 1:17pm

on 04/23/08 at 12:56:49, Sandy_C wrote:

We folks in NC are paying about 20 cents per gallon more than SC residents, because NC has this lovely gas tax, of about 20 cents a gallon...

I think I'll move to NC so I can catch a break.

Wisconsin's gas tax is 44 cents per gallon. We're now up around the $3.69 - $3.75 range.

Add to this the wisdom of our governor and legislature who have implemented a 10% ethanol mandate (as payback to the corn lobby that gets them elected). This mandate is based on numerous lies (not science), and the bottom line is that we get a more polluted environment and 2-3 miles less per gallon than if we could run 100% gasoline.

I don't think we're long for this state.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Sandy_C on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 1:28pm

Good info, Brew.

I just read a day or two in my local paper (which is a rag), that using ethanol as fuel for our cars would give us more miles per gallon than gasoline. True, false?

We have now two diametrically opposed opinions on whether ethanol increases or decreases mileage. Who can we believe, your rag, or my rag????

But, the article also said that MAKING ethanol is harder to make and burns more fuel that pollutes the air that we breathe more than making gasoline.

I'll try to find the article I read in my rag, and then let's compare notes.

Either way, the typical typical gas or ethanol buyer is going to get screwed!

Sandy

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Racer1_NC on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 2:03pm

on 04/23/08 at 13:28:39, Sandy_C wrote:

Sandy......just go here http://www.fueleconomy.gov/ and look up a vehicle that is rated "E85 Flex Fuel". Note the ratings listed for gasoline and E85. That will answer you mileage questions. It's up to you to believe or not the other claims, but the facts are that E85 doesn't get the fuel mileage regular gas does.

Example posted below....
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/Racer1_NC/Untitled.jpg

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by brewcrew on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 2:06pm

on 04/23/08 at 13:28:39, Sandy_C wrote:

I never quoted a rag, Sandy. It is a well known fact that adding alcohol to gasoline decreases gas mileage. You should be able to find at least a hundred sources if you Google it.

Your local rag is either hopelessly out of touch, stupid, or liars. Or all three.

I have never been able to figure out the following: If ethanol is such a great alternative, why does it have to be mandated? Simply let gas stations put it side by side with 100% gasoline and let consumers decide.

There's only one answer to that, and it has to do with political contributions.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by monty on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 2:15pm

And to add injury to insult, this ethanol nonsense is impacting the supply of tequila. Demand for corn is tight and prices are high - farmers in Mexico are ripping out agave to plant corn.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 2:26pm

Ours is 1.20.9 per litre as of today.

That's around $4.59/gal (I think - math was never my strong suit! ;)).

Either way - it's too darned much.

Carol

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 2:27pm

Wow, Bill, that thing says that the difference between E85 and gasoline is 10mpg and 15mpg?

Thats a massive difference. Am i reading that right?

Due to the way we have our infrastructure laid out, it takes much more energy to make 1 million gallons of ethanol than it does to make 1 million gallons of gasoline. First of all, you have to fire up all those tractors to farm the corn......and you cant put corn through a pipeline either.

Many other plants would give much more BTUs per ton than corn, but we dont have the infrastructure to process those other types of plants.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by brewcrew on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 2:36pm

on 04/23/08 at 14:26:46, Grandma_Sweet_Boy wrote:

(math was never my strong suit! ;)).

You can't use that excuse forever, Grammaw:

www.onlineconversion.com

(BTW, you were right on the beans)

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by superhawk2300 on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 2:39pm

I can second what Bill is saying. Ethanol is a sham, a ruse, a falsity.

I used to work for one of the big boy oil companies (many years ago). I personally converted most of the gas dispensers in the South - South Eastern WI to accept Ethanol. All it takes is a filter that looks like a large oil filter. All the filter does is arorb water. Water doesn't seperate in ethanol like it does in normal gas and thus it gets pumped into cars if the dispenser doesn't filter the water out. And there is water in every gas stations tank as they use columns of water to seperate the different blends of gas in the pipeline that feed the tank farms, that feed the tanker trucks that feed the gas stations.

Bottom line is that every station with in an area of X population desnity must use ethanol by law. Each one of those pumps needs a filter. For every filter I installed the goverment gas the oil company around 5000 bucks as an incentive to make the switch.

Thats correct, your tax money going right from you hands, to the government hands, to the oil companies hands, all without you getting any gas for it at all.

Any people doubt the oil company - government tie!

It was all about the money. Ethanol is terrible for your engine, provides bad mileage but does burn cleaner by volume burned. But the mileage is worse to it causes more polution in the long term cuz more has to be burned.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 2:42pm

on 04/23/08 at 14:36:10, brewcrew wrote:

You can't use that excuse forever, Grammaw:

Yep, I can! Didn't you know that once a person is considered a senior citizen they can use any old excuse they like, and you youngsters are just to go along with it so as not to upset the old ones! ;;D

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by superhawk2300 on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 2:42pm

BTW WI folks, all the gas you buy in SE WI is the same as it all comes from the same pipeline and goes to the same tank farms. The only gas station in the SE WI area that has their own tank farms is Amaco.

Even when I worked for a competing gas company I bought my gas from Amaco and I got a few more miles per tank of gas like clock work.

This was 15 years ago or so - i assume the situation is the same as I have not noticed any additional tank farms going up.

Just a note - I have not nor will I ever buy any gas from the Speedway brand of companies.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by brewcrew on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 3:08pm

on 04/23/08 at 14:42:32, Grandma_Sweet_Boy wrote:

Uh, no you can't. You don't have to go to work anymore, so you have to make your own work. And your assignement for the remainder of the week is to brush up on your math skills. ;;D

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by brewcrew on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 3:15pm

on 04/23/08 at 14:42:46, superhawk2300 wrote:

Just a note - I have not nor will I ever buy any gas from the Speedway brand of companies.

Why? Enlighten us, please.

Another thing to note: I will NEVER put ethanol blend gas in any of my lawn and garden equipment. Because of what Jamey mentioned, the ethanol attracts and retains moisture. For modern cars that are fuel injected, it's not that big of a deal, but for lawn mowers, tractors, rototillers, snow blowers, leaf blowers, etc., some of the gas remains in the carburator, attracts the water out of the atmosphere, and corrodes the inside of the bowl.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 3:57pm

on 04/23/08 at 15:08:59, brewcrew wrote:

Uh, no you can't. You don't have to go to work anymore, so you have to make your own work. And your assignement for the remainder of the week is to brush up on your math skills. ;;D

Damn! That's no fun - now I feel like one of my own grandkids! ;)

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by brewcrew on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 3:58pm

on 04/23/08 at 15:57:35, Grandma_Sweet_Boy wrote:

Damn! That's no fun - now I feel like one of my own grandkids! ;)

We lead by example. ;)

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by purpleydog on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 5:28pm

$3.62/ gallon here, $2.99 for ethanol. Not driving anymore than I have to.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Bob P on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 6:22pm

Driving to Los Angeles on Saturday, I paid $3.97.9 at a Chevron station in Santa Maria, for regular unleaded.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by superhawk2300 on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 6:31pm

Well Bill, it is just my opinion, but .............

they were the cheapest Mf'ers I had ever worked for. Always too much water in the tanks, used the cheapest filters, the cheapest nozzels, skimped on all procedures, some of it seemed like it might have been illegal.

I've been witness to an entire lots worth of cars stalled out because they filled up with bad gas at one station.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Charlie on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 8:54pm

on 04/23/08 at 14:39:15, superhawk2300 wrote:

OMG. We basically agree. The end is neigh. Good intentions......maybe....but nope.

Charlie

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by superhawk2300 on Apr 23^rd, 2008, 9:18pm

Charles Charles Charles.

We agree all the time, you just don;t know it :)

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Sandy_C on Apr 24^th, 2008, 5:24pm

on 04/23/08 at 14:06:56, brewcrew wrote:

Your local rag is either hopelessly out of touch, stupid, or liars. Or all three.

Brew, you hit the nail right on the head. My local rag???

All three! No doubt about it.

Sandy

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by midwestbeth on Apr 24^th, 2008, 7:20pm

$3.69 on the way to work.......$3.79 on the way home :-/

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by Jonny on Apr 24^th, 2008, 8:08pm

$3.40 at the members joint (BJ's) and $3.50 at most other stations.

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by cynjeep89 on Apr 24^th, 2008, 9:59pm

I heard a report on the news tonight that gas along the Jersey turnpike are supposed to go up .20 cents/gallon overnight.

What a mess!

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by DonnaH_again on Apr 24^th, 2008, 11:47pm

$3.67 9/10 here in the bottom of Florida. Where's my moped when one?

Title: Re: How much is your gas now?
Post by monty on Apr 25^th, 2008, 2:12pm

Map is here:

http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx