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Title: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by BarbaraD on Apr 9th, 2008, 9:05am One of Obomba's delgates resigned because she asked her neighbors to get their kids out of a tree. She made a comment that the "Tree was not there for kids to be crawling around like monkeys in it!" Now she's a RACIST!!!! Give me a break people!!! This is totally ridiculous!!!!! My word! I've got a great nephew who's black and I sure as hell don't watch what I say (and most of you know I'm not the least bit PC) around him or anyone else in the family. I think people are taking this race card way the hell too far and it's about time we start looking at people as just that - people! My ancestors came from somewhere, but that was a long time before I was born and it doesn't matter squat to me today. I'm an American and I live in today's world. My ROOTS were established by my PARENTS - not ancestors who I never heard of. Stuff like this just turns my stomach.... Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by Rosybabe on Apr 9th, 2008, 9:07am now one must be afraid to speak...very afraid :-X..too much for freedom of speech... |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by brewcrew on Apr 9th, 2008, 9:11am Don't talk to PC people. Problem solved. |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by artonio7 on Apr 9th, 2008, 9:34am I wonder when the word Racist is going to be put on the "List of insensitive words" I read somewhere in the new testament a while ago (and I am loosely translating and paraphrasing...) Jesus said that it's not enough to avoid a "sinful" act but to take it a step farther and to even avoid thinking of it. Here is a little fun experiment... the next time you go to a party where you meet new people... try to avoid saying what you do... or any label beside your name that you often use to describe yourself, I.E. I am a Doctor, Lawyer, Mother, Father, Engineer, Artist... then take it a step farther and avoid mentioning any item that you own, where you live or have been or any of your accomplishments. Sit back and watch how nervous folks become before they start quizzing you. It seems that as humans it is very difficult relate to a person without attaching some form of label to them... I wonder why? Do you ever notice or wonder if you act differently around people with different labels? For example... would you act the same in front of the president as you would in front of a cashier at walmart? The question then becomes... Are we relating with the person or the label? Just a thought. with warm regards, Tony |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by Killroy 2.0 on Apr 9th, 2008, 12:24pm on 04/09/08 at 09:34:03, artonio7 wrote:
That is not fair, of course people would act and treat a walmat cashier different then the president. The walmart cashier - is not a scummy politician with no class ;;D |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by Killroy 2.0 on Apr 9th, 2008, 12:25pm on 04/09/08 at 12:24:57, Killroy 2.0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by lydia on Apr 9th, 2008, 1:10pm a quote from Kid Rock suits this. "Our nation's race relations got me guilty of being white" No shit! I love good people. I try my hardest to love bad people. Peace,love and Kid Rock, Lydia |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by Kevin_M on Apr 9th, 2008, 1:11pm As kids we climbed and got into things like little monkeys, did monkey shines, and monkeyed around. I'll have to go contemplate now how this coined affixation to my nature by my parents has oppressed my life. |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by Kevin_M on Apr 9th, 2008, 1:25pm The kids may have been climbing the tree because there were no longer monkey bars at the park. |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by Kevin_M on Apr 9th, 2008, 1:47pm Geeze, describing the kids as having had playful fun like a barrel of monkeys would out of the parent's dinner conversation I guess. |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by catlind on Apr 9th, 2008, 2:08pm I've actually been in front of the president, and I can say that I was better 'behaved' for the Walmart cashier ;) I don't have a photograph of the Walmart cashier's nose hair but I do have one of Pres. Bush's nose hair hehe. You raise a great point Tony. Labels, our means of communicating between one another. We (meaning in general as a society) have forgotten that we use labels and our labels our nothing more than our personal 'pointers' to what our perception of reality is. The map is not the terrain. We assign words and labels so that we can convey to one another what it is we want to communicate. Those words and labels are not reality, they are our personal pointers to our personal perception of reality. Our different cultures and societal perceptions would lead to a more cohesive existence if we remembered that our words and labels are just that, and not true reality - just our perception of it. Personally I think it would be a great deal more difficult to view a person as something unacceptable if I think of them in terms of their personal perception, rather than the idea that their views are wrong because they don't match my labels and perceptions of reality. I was actually 9 years old before I even understood in any comprehensible way that a person with black skin was different. My parents understood that prejudice was taught and not an inherent human trait - and that had to be difficult since my father was actually a pretty prejudiced man. I grew up across the river not far from Detroit, and there was plenty of people that came and went from my world that were of a different skin color. I honestly did not in any way see them differently than myself. I was a full 9 years old and in the heart of black Detroit being shot at (long story) before my brother explained to me that I was white and there was a difference. Lets stop teaching our children that there is even such a thing as skin color, and I'd bet everything I have that if everyone did that, racism, prejudice and bigotry would disappear from the range of labels we call language. Just my humble opinion and my perception of reality ;) Cat |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by starlight on Apr 9th, 2008, 3:05pm The PC thing started in the early 90's and it is a very scary thing. It grows out of a feeling that if I talk to you, I may offend you. If you talk to me, you may offend me. Like we are all so very delicate. I feel like among the older generation that is about as far as "race relations" have come--"OK, I'll watch what I say, in fact, I'll bring it a step further and not talk to you for fear of what I might accidentally say"--it's just a morphing of segregation--to keep people separated. Some of the most PC places have the most self-imposed segregation. |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by BarbaraD on Apr 9th, 2008, 3:12pm Good grief - I grew up with Archie Bunker but I was the rebel in the family. I played with the black kids and didn't listen to Archie when he tried to make me predigice. I saw "kids" not colors. One thing I always tried to instill into my son was to act the same way "everywhere" he went whether it was the country club or a red neck beer joint and be "comfortable" being himself. If he was uncomfortable - then HE had a problem. Tony, I LOVE your idea. Can't wait to go to a party. And Cat, I've met a president too... and gave the guy a hug - how's that for being myself. (And NO it wasn't King George - I'd probably kick him in the butt! :) - but I'm not too PC). My friends and acquaintances of "different" colors take me with a grain of salt when I shoot my mouth off and just laugh and if those who don't know me take "offense" at some remark I make then I just figure they have a problem and don't worry about it. I'm just too old to waste time on BS like that.... Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by Jonny on Apr 9th, 2008, 6:55pm on 04/09/08 at 09:05:11, BarbaraD wrote:
But that "God damn America", US of KKKA", "Garlic nose Italians" pastor is still an ok dude in Obamas book. Hmmmmmmm!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by BarbaraD on Apr 9th, 2008, 8:59pm on 04/09/08 at 18:55:10, Jonny wrote:
Me, I'd have told him to go to hell and walked out of that church for good.... not praised him later.... Ya know - if Colin Powel were running, I don't think I'd be feeling this way...... |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by Charlie on Apr 10th, 2008, 12:59am Quote:
No. The difference being that from Walmart you could probably get something resembling a helpful answer. PC started in earnest in the 1970s from my experience. It makes me cringe. I get away with more and more.... the whiter my hair gets. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by sandie99 on Apr 10th, 2008, 11:28am That was a brilliant post, Tony. :) I must admit that I particularly loved that comparison - cashier and president. One of Finland's current senators is actually a former cashier; that was her first job and being a senator is her second... I've had the honor to meet one of Finland's presidents among few of my classmates and other children and I can assure you that besides wearing fancy dresses, it was basically bunch of regular kids and a man, who just happened to be the president! We got to ask him (Mauno Koivisto) whatever we wanted, which was nice and rare. Back in here we've been watching TV show called The Unknowns, which is based on the show Identity, which some of you in America might have seen. In the show the contestant must identify 12 identities and has only few clues to work on. I like to watch it, because it makes us wonder how much we can trust the steptypic assumptions about others - so far one person has known/quessed all identities correctly, which proves that first impressions can be misleading. Sanna |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by Racer1_NC on Apr 10th, 2008, 1:55pm on 04/10/08 at 00:59:26, Charlie wrote:
You haven't been in the WalMart near my house I take it..... ;;D Bill |
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Title: Re: Stupid Headline Story.... Post by Charlie on Apr 10th, 2008, 8:05pm Walmart certainly is a terrible example. They treat their employees like dirt. So does Washington, lately. Charlie |
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