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Title: Pregnant man??? Post by Emily on Mar 29th, 2008, 3:44pm A hoax perhaps? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/26/wpreg126.xml |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by aloneuk on Mar 29th, 2008, 5:08pm :-X |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by Charlie on Mar 29th, 2008, 5:50pm http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/Shocked & Awed.png Charlie |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by starlight on Mar 29th, 2008, 10:20pm Oh my.................. I think that this story is true only because a few days ago I was flipping through channels in the car and heard the DJ just mention "the pregnant man" and then a commerical came on and I was wondering what he was talking about...must be this. Oh my.... |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by starlight on Mar 29th, 2008, 10:48pm I just checked out CNN and I guess doctors are saying it is possible if he kept his womb, but something about that picture looks weird like hopefully he is just pushing his stomach out or something maybe--I guess breast feeding won't be an option...oh I hope it is a hoax...that is just...bizarre. |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by DragonSlayer on Mar 29th, 2008, 10:59pm It's not nice to fool Mother Nature |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Mar 30th, 2008, 12:46am A human born with ovaries, a uterus and a vagina is a woman. Just cause she had her mammaries removed doesnt mean she is a man. I know a lot of flat chested women, to call them a man is rude. 8) |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by LeLimey on Mar 30th, 2008, 8:11am I've thought about this one and whether to reply or not but here goes. I don't have a problem with anyone who wants a sex change. I feel truly sorry for them, feeling they've been born in the wrong body and not "belonging". I wish them well and hope they find happiness. When I was growing up we had a family friend who was a hermaphrodite although I didn't know that until I was much older. I think my attitude has a lot to do with him. I don't have a problem with this woman becoming a man, what I have a problem with is her bending the rules to suit herself. I refuse to call her a man anymore and I would have done so before this. Anyone who can twist circumstances like this earns contempt not respect and the fact that they have gone public with it strengthens my belief they are out to shock or make money or both. This is NOT a man having a baby. This is a woman playing dress up and then shouting "Fooled you!" |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by Becky on Mar 30th, 2008, 7:13pm I agree with LeLimey on this one. I have nothing against people who want to change thier sex, but this is going too far :o |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by Gator on Mar 30th, 2008, 7:23pm I have no problems with gays or lesbians living together or even getting married to each other. It has no effect on my life. I also have no problem with a person of one sex wanting to be the other and having surgical reassignment done. Man to woman or woman to man, if that's what they want to do, so be it and more power to them. This, however, is not a man. She did not alter her reproductive organs. She's a hairy, flat-chested female playing dress up and screwing with peoples' heads. Worse, if she doesn't get her identity sorted out soon, there's going to be one confused kid running around and all the potential psychological issues that entails. Some people are so selfish, they will do anything to get their way and damn what effect it will have on anyone else. This is, IMHO, one of those people. I feel sorry for the kid. |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by Linda_Howell on Mar 30th, 2008, 8:40pm Good Grief. In Bend, Oregon no less. I, too feel so sorry for that child and hope that he/she will be closely monitered by Child Portective Services after it's born. Taking testosterone does not make a woman a man..it just makes her grow a beard, lowers her voice, say "wilma, get me another beer" burp louder, and make her more prone to heart attacks. |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by Groov on Mar 30th, 2008, 8:43pm on 03/30/08 at 19:23:43, Gator wrote:
I agree Gator. She/he/it has psychological issues to resolve (if that is possible) before it takes on the responsibility of properly raising a child. |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by starlight on Mar 30th, 2008, 9:33pm I agree as far as to each his (or her or his/her) own, as far as if they feel like changing into a woman I got no problem with that, but I just feel bad for the kid when he or she wants to look at old pictures and sees "pregnant Daddy". The psychologists apparently are saying that it will be no problem, but I would disagree there. I mean, in this case, it would just clearly seem in lieu of becoming a pregnant man adoption would seem a much better option. |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by Groov on Mar 30th, 2008, 10:01pm on 03/30/08 at 21:33:03, starlight wrote:
I dont care what people do to themselves either SL. But man !!! The kid would have to be negatively affected. What would you think if that freek-show was your dad/mom ????? I suppose it is it's right to have a kid of it's own, but I cant help but think the kid would have a screwed-up childhood. No matter what new-age or progressive people say, traditional parents...a Dad & a Mom is the best for a kid. Growing up with such a confused parent is not good. |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by starlight on Mar 30th, 2008, 10:11pm Groov-- I totally agree with you (I thought my post said that I thought the kid would have problems?) I think the kid will have problems--I definitely would not want, myself, to have been born from a man!!!! (as you asked that question) I do not think anyone would be happy about being born from a man!!! I think a kid could be OK being raised by 2 Moms or 2 Dads (so we may disagree slightly there) but I do draw the line at men actually giving birth to children!!!! I am definitely not open-minded enough for that! |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by starlight on Mar 30th, 2008, 10:22pm I think if it is not a hoax, this guy seems totally confused and selfish and he should never have changed into a man if he wanted to give birth. This stuff goes over my head--like in this story: woman changes into half a man and then marries a woman (what's her deal?) and then becomes pregnant--whoah I thought life was complicated enough--I guess maybe not for some people. |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by Groov on Mar 30th, 2008, 10:31pm Yup, gotcha SL. Bizarre eh? |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by Groov on Mar 31st, 2008, 12:10am I don't think 2 Moms or whatever is necessarily a bad way to raise kids. I guess that depends on the people involved. 2 parents who are a normal married couple can be piss-poor at raising kids. Fighting all the time, disharmony, instability, in my opinion, are the real things that screw up kids. I more or less raised mine by myself...you know, got very little help. He turned out really good. I attribute that to me doing what was right as best as I could. I know a woman who adopted a child with aids. She is a lesbian or whatever you call it. I had to think that her & her live-in would do a good job with the kid. No one else would care about the kid because of his aids. He was being shuttled around the Govt. institutions. Even though her lifestyle was weird to me, that doesn't say anything about her ability to do right by the adopted son. Even though it's a proven fact that a normal married couple is best for raising kids, that by itself doesn't mean a married couple are always best for a kid. Not at all, I know plenty who are crappy parents. It's a complicated responsibility and to much so to be able to simply blanket rule it. My Sister was adopted in 1970. At that time our whole family was scrutinized by a social worker. A single parent or gay couple would never have gotten to adopt her. I doubt that thinking is as common these days. If it was a guaranteed fact, then my kid would have turned out all screwed up. He's a good boy, so I would suggest that there is a whole lot more to good parenting than the number of parents involved. Either way, this man/woman thing has issues...yikes !!! :o |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by outofcommission on Mar 31st, 2008, 4:09am i think spok got prego in some episode of startrek. [smiley=huh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by zwibbs/Scott on Mar 31st, 2008, 6:33am [smiley=JAW_DROP.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by Rosybabe on Mar 31st, 2008, 9:00am ok, and what is He/She going to do with the baby?....if He/she had already chosen to be a man, why He/She wanted to have relationships with another man? Why He/She kept his/her reproductive organs? does not make sense :o..... what a confused subjet, obviously He/She has lots of issues, not exactly the best environment to raise a child... |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by ivanov on Mar 31st, 2008, 9:15am Folks, This has been taken way out of proportion. Some tabloid newspaper got hold of this from an interview from The Advocate magazine. There have been more then 19 such births already on the books. Not to mention that 1 in 25,000 births occur annually by hermaphrodites. This is a different case since this person is transgendered but biologically gender is not always defined. If this couple went through all the discrimination, expense, and time to conceive this child - they want it. Think of how many innocent children are neglected and abused by so called 'normal' parents. There have been numerous studies done on children raised in gay households and the findings show that these kids turn out just as well or in some cases better then a traditional family. And the key to all this is that they come from a loving caring household. All the best, Dan |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by Annette on Mar 31st, 2008, 11:51am on 03/31/08 at 09:15:42, ivanov wrote:
Unfortunately, many cases of child abuse/neglect arise when the adults ( parents ) put their wants and needs before the needs of the children. Abusive/neglectful parents do "want" the children. In fact they desperately "need" the children to fulfil whatever needs or wants they have. There are women out there who would have kids just to tie the men to the marriage. Some even have kids so that they can collect welfare payment and not have to work. How many parents use their kids to fill whatever emotional/psychological voids they have inside? Of course they "want" the kids. The question is would the kid wants to be born into such a family/condition? Most of the time the answer is no. |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by Emily on Mar 31st, 2008, 2:00pm Quote:
I work with a girl who is pregnant with a married man's child. Not that he didn't have anything to do with it - but 3 years ago when I started working with her, she told me she was going to have this man. It took her 2.5 years to do it and she succeeded, breaking up his marriage of 7 years and now (he's only been split from his wife for 3 months) she is conveniently pregnant (only just 5 weeks, yet she's very proud in telling people - like it's a trophy!). That's awfully cynical, isn't it... This story is thought provoking! It's interesting to see people's different points of view. I, for one, do think that it's a little strange. The fact that this person goes to all those lengths to remove the traces of womanhood, yet still chooses to do the one thing that us gals are MADE to do. A bit hypocritical perhaps? But as everyone has said here, the family norm, isn't necessarily that anymore. Perhaps this is a sign of times to come... [smiley=huh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by JeffB on Mar 31st, 2008, 2:54pm The real story should be "who's the freak that went to bed with this freak"? [smiley=hurl.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by starlight on Mar 31st, 2008, 3:15pm Groov, Totally agree--what counts is if the child is raised with love. Too many kids, like the example you gave who have aids or other illnesses or simply unwanted in the system--if 2 women want to adopt or 2 men in my book that is a good thing. Ivanov, dunno...I think if a person changes into man they should not get pregnant. Too confusing for the kid--I am no expert on the human psyche but I think that that could be a lot to handle if a person has to deal with knowing they were given birth to by a man. Annette, you wrote "there are women out there who would have kids just to tie a man to the marriage"--not sure I get that--why'd the guy get married if he doesn't want to be tied to it? Emily, sounds like the guy there is a homewrecker to his own family. What was so great about him that the woman wanted him so badly, probably nothing right? Sounds like both are idiots. |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by Groov on Mar 31st, 2008, 7:19pm on 03/31/08 at 14:54:18, JeffB wrote:
I heard that. Ivanov, the question isn't about "gay" people raising kids. Like I said, I know a woman who is lesbian and rescued a kid from a life of rejection. She gave the kid a life even with his medical problem which could bankrupt her. If thats how gay people do their kids, I'd have to say they are doing better than 90% of us. She told me that where she lives it is not uncommon for gay couples to adopt kids with aids or other medical problems. Apparently easier for them to adopt. I'll tell you what....if people like her do this for these forgotten/unwanted kids....they have my respect totally !!! No, it's not about gay..this person is a total freak and obviously has mental problems....not good parent material. But it dont matter...just one more f'dup kid for us to later imprison or deal with otherwise....just my guess. Cheers, Dave |
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Title: Re: Pregnant man??? Post by debOUCH on Mar 31st, 2008, 9:54pm hmmmmmmmmmm...........http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/31/content_7891932.htm |
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