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Title: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by Theo83 on Mar 16th, 2008, 10:43pm http://images.kodakgallery.com/photos4849/3/16/41/92/53/6/653924116306_0_ALB.jpg |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by DragonSlayer on Mar 16th, 2008, 10:49pm The infamous RED X. [smiley=crash.gif] If you turn it on it's side it may help keep vampires away - not sure if it will work on Pit Bull's. [smiley=nono.gif] |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by Langa on Mar 16th, 2008, 11:36pm X for me too...I honestly don't like pit bulls, but I don't want them abused either. I think there's something in their DNA or whatever that makes them turn on you. A pitbull pup, once it turned around 2, just one day turned on my 15 year old niece. She raised him since a pup. Her only way out was to block her door and jump out the window, thank God she lived in the basement. One time I was walking with my friend and her Weimereiner (sp?) and one full grown pit bull jumped the gate and just attacked her dog for no reason. We both started screaming. It nearly tore the arm off her dog. People came running with sticks to get it away. My friend sued the owners, after a $1500 vet bill. In other words, there's something wrong with them - I think- anyway. That's why I think they use them for fighting. Langa |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by catlind on Mar 16th, 2008, 11:50pm Langa, they are actually not recognized by either the CKC or the AKC as a breed of dog because they were genetically engineered for pit fighting. There is good reason they are to be watched, they literally were bred and cross bred and engineered for the sole purpose of tearing each other apart. I've seen some good ones, but I'd never trust one in a home with other pets or with children. Cat |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by Langa on Mar 16th, 2008, 11:52pm Makes sense. I still feel bad for them though. :-/ Langa |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by DragonSlayer on Mar 17th, 2008, 12:01am I was told that the Doberman and Pit Bull's were inbread to develop their protection/attack attributes. One of the side effects is their skeletal/bone structures quit growing and their muscles/organs continue to grow. The result for some animals is their skull stops growing and their brain continues to grow and the dog literally goes insane from the pressure, usually around 2-4 yrs old. Sounded reasonable at the time. |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by Theo83 on Mar 17th, 2008, 12:35am While genetics absolutely play a factor in a pit bull tempermant and some a more prone to aggressive behavior, but they are also very much a result of their owner. It's not the breed for everybody; they require ample exercise, proper training and a lot of attention. When raised properly they can make wonderful pets Again, as I said before, some can be aggressive. Just like people they should be judged on an individual basis. Lola, my pit bull, was dumped out of a car by her owners. When I found her I had the choice of keeping her or giving her back to the shelter, where she most likely would have been euthanize. http://images.kodakgallery.com/photos4386/3/65/91/45/9/2/209459165306_0_ALB.jpg http://images.kodakgallery.com/photos4386/3/65/91/56/81/6/681569165306_0_ALB.jpg http://images.kodakgallery.com/photos4386/3/65/91/97/28/1/128979165306_0_ALB.jpg She is really an amazing dog; nothing but a joy and it is unfair to stereotype a dog based on it's breed. With that being said, I do understand your concerned. |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by DragonSlayer on Mar 17th, 2008, 12:58am My ex girlfriend had a Pit Bull "Ginger". Ginger was a very meek dog and was as loving as a dog could be. Ex girlfriend was NOT meek LOL. [smiley=ohjez.gif] Anyway they are both lovely creatures where ever they are. [smiley=nopity.gif] Agreed the Owner plays a huge role in the dogs disposition and how it will interact. However I still cannot discount the information mentioned above for SOME of the individuals of those breds. The title of this thread is accurate IMHO. Re: Beware of Pit Bull... |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by Mastifflvr28 on Mar 17th, 2008, 2:05am oh...my...god on the brain issue ::) Here's what the red X was trying to say Zactly, beware...sheesh http://images.kodakgallery.com/photos4849/3/16/41/92/53/6/653924116306_0_ALB.jpg M |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by zwibbs/Scott on Mar 17th, 2008, 6:29am Pit Bulls can be very gentle dogs. Watch the Dog Whisperer next Friday night and look for " Daddy" the pitbull. I don't know if the AKA is aware that the Pittbull has bred with the Rabbit though ;;D |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by BarbaraD on Mar 17th, 2008, 7:34am Pit Bulls were originally bred for slaughter houses to hold the cow's nose while it was slaughtered in the pit (where the slaughter took place). I've owned several and they were the sweetest dogs in the world, but they were "raised" to be sweet and spoiled. I hold with the theory (and my vet upholds it also) that a dog is NOT predisposed to be bad, but will adhere to it's upbringing. Right now I have a Pitt/Boxer mix - all 80 pounds of him and he's the most gentle dog anyone would ever want to meet. He's grown up with my grandson and they've wrestled since day one and all the dog has ever done is growl like crazy and slobber all over Caleb. He's done the same with my cats (and still does). They'll be solid wet from slobber, but he NEVER has bitten one yet. I've seen a lot of dog owners over the years who needed to be shot, drawn and quartered, but I just get on my soap box when I see dogs getting run down. Dogs, like children are NOT born bad... people make them that way. Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by sandie99 on Mar 17th, 2008, 9:19am I must admit that I've always been bit afraid of pit bulls, but not as much as I'm afraid of dobermans and rottweilers. I'm not afraid of dogs in general, just these few ones (but I do tend to keep my distance from the dogs I don't know that well, especially if they are behaving bit hostile and the owner is not next to me...). I don't have any bad experiences with any of those breeds, because none of my dog-owner relatives/family friends own them. I think that my fear has something to do with the fact that I've read quite often stories about one of those dogs attacking and even killing innocent people around them. Just this morning I read one of those stories: a 10-year-old boy was attacked by the family's two rottweilers. He died right there on his own back yard. The local vet put the dogs to sleep, neither had been aggressive before. Sanna |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by thomas on Mar 17th, 2008, 9:28am on 03/17/08 at 00:35:27, Theo83 wrote:
Agree 100%, imagine if we stereotyped people based on their genetics................ :-X |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by George_J on Mar 17th, 2008, 9:48am Certain individual animals have hearts filled with black evil. Ellen sent me this image of our own ruthless toe-killer, scanning the room for people wearing socks: http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m250/Ryicii/DSCF0791.jpg Makes my feet cringe. I know that look. Best, George |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by LeLimey on Mar 17th, 2008, 9:54am Theo's pics - I hope they work from photobucket! Theo for some reason kodak pics have never worked for me here either - Helen http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q154/fedupofthinking/Theo1.jpg http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q154/fedupofthinking/Theo2.jpg http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q154/fedupofthinking/Theo3.jpg http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q154/fedupofthinking/Theo4.jpg |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by LeLimey on Mar 17th, 2008, 9:56am George I know how you feel! Paul has a toe killer I named "Cannibal" he is very loving and sweet until he gets his head close enough to my foot to sink his chompers into my toe. He does it every flippin' time! He won't bite fingers or anything else - just toes! What is it with this hairy hooligans?! |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by Theo83 on Mar 17th, 2008, 10:02am on 03/17/08 at 09:19:51, sandie99 wrote:
1. Sensationalist Media. People don't want to read: "Pit Bull Spends Days Lounging in the Sun, Playing With Brother And Cuddling" 2. These stories never give the whole picture. They never say if the owner properly exercised the dogs; bored can lead to aggression. They don't say if the dogs were properly socialized to different people and noises. Or if the owner hit or abused the dogs causing fear aggression. In cases like this is would be very interesting to study these and other factors that can lead to aggressive behavior. I would be my left arm that in most cases the owners would be at fault |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by brewcrew on Mar 17th, 2008, 10:09am Whatever. I would never own one. And God help the person whose Rottweiller, Pit Bull, Doberman attacks me or my family. Your homeowner's better be paid up. |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by LeLimey on Mar 17th, 2008, 10:17am My experience to date is the most belligerant dogs I've ever known have been Jack Russell terriers owned by little old ladies. I've known a couple of lovely pit bulls, actually the only two pit bulls I've ever met were both lovely little dogs. I personally think ANY dog can or will turn if provoked. I wouldn't leave young kids alone in a room with ANY dog. Who knows what will set a dog off to biting if a kid bugs it or hurts it in some way. It all boils down to being responsible. I won't let my kids pet your dog until you have said it is okay and in turn - keep your kids away from my dog if it's on a lead and ASK before you pet. I'll keep my dog secured in my garden, YOU take note of "Beware of the dog" signs. I read once that there are more accidents or incidents, however you want to word it, involving labradors than any other breed. Now I think this is becaue there are more of them as "family dogs" therefore more scope for them to be treated in such a way that they'll react but the point is, any dog is a danger if not treated properly. |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by catlind on Mar 17th, 2008, 10:51am I grew up next door to a pug that would tear your face off for looking at it the wrong way, and the rest of my days were spent with my best friend and her family who bred great danes as show dogs. Beautiful animals, but temperment can be a problem in any breed - and with pure breds it has to be documented. Any animal has the ability to do harm. The raising of the animal will indicate most of it's character. You cannot domesticate an animal and expect that you will never again have a problem with them. I currently have a cat that is almost 20lbs. If it were smart enough to understand it was a cat, it would be an animal to be wary of ... fortunately it's dumber than a box of rox so it doesn't know it can do any damage ;) I did not intend to pass judgement on the breed personally, only to list the details I know. I've met many that were great dogs, and every account (except one) that I know of that involved the pit bull attacks had the dog living under poor conditions. I just personally would never own one with children or other pets in the house. Cat |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by Melissa on Mar 17th, 2008, 11:23am Back in the old days Pit Bulls used to be "nanny" dogs which would help look after the young children in a household because they were so good with them. I believe it's all in how they're brought up myself. Sad as to what people have done to a breed of dog to get off on their lust of blood and money. >:( |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Mar 17th, 2008, 11:27am Pit Bulls are banned in the province we live in. Carol |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by BarbaraD on Mar 17th, 2008, 11:53am One morning I got up and had a pit bull in my living room - he didn't belong there, but there he was. Apparently he'd jumped our fence and come thru the doggie door and just made himself at home. I told him he didn't belong there and put him out the front door and he just came right back around and jumped the fence and came right back in. After a few attempts to get "rid" of him, we just figured we might as well feed him. Named him Bully. Bully took it upon himself to be my protector. He went to work with me, laid by my desk and checked out all who came into my office. If he had a problem with anyone he'd let me know (usually he was right in his assumptions and I learned to trust his judgment -especially in hiring). He never got out of line, never tried to bite anyone - just "was there". He was "old" when he appeared and stayed with us till he died. We never knew how he was raised when he was young. Our vet said he was a pruebread as far as he could tell, but he just found us and liked what he saw I guess. So I'm still taking the dog's side of this argument. I've probably taken in more stays with "questionable" origins than most people and I've yet to get a vicious dog. I've had some that wanted to be, but after about a week learned that we don't do things that way at this house and turned out to be docile and loveable. Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by Theo83 on Mar 17th, 2008, 12:46pm I agree with you, LeLimey. I worked at a vet in HS and I the only time I was ever bite was by an all-american family dog...a beagle. |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by BarbaraD on Mar 17th, 2008, 4:01pm on 03/17/08 at 12:46:19, Theo83 wrote:
And he was probably just scared being at the doc... Heck I've snapped at docs myself... Probably just needed a lollipop.. ;) Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by Theo83 on Mar 17th, 2008, 4:10pm Sorry I had to go Moral of the story, no dog is immune to the effects of an irresponsible owner. I know the Vet called someone to have the owner investigated, I am not sure what the final result was though. |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by deltadarlin on Mar 17th, 2008, 4:49pm My daddy had a dog who was 1/2 Rat terrier and 1/2 Chihuhua, meanest damned 8 pounds of dog you would ever meet. Aunt had a chihuhua, again, vicious little animal (would bit anyone for any reason). I had a cocker spanial when I was a kid and don't let a man try and get out of a car, she went straight for the calf (she didn't bother women). Baby sister raised pit bulls, Gripper was the lovingest baby you'd ever meet, kids could do anything to him and he'd just lay there, her female was not so easy going. When she moved, she made the decision to have them put down because she didn't want someone else to mistreat the dogs and bring out their *inner beast*. We used to raise Catahoula curs, very protective, stubborn dogs. When Sarah was about 5 or so, she came running to me, crying, and showed me where Belle, our cur dog had bitten her~skin wasn't broken, but their was a bruise on her calf. So, I head out back to get the dog and have a *discussion* about biting. Belle was in the back of her dog house and would not come out. I finally drug her out and was proceeding to explain to her about biting when, sarah comes running out of the house, yelling at me not to whip the dog. Well, seems like she had snuck up on Belle and kicked her. Belle was completely deaf, so it was easy to come up on her when she was asleep or zoned out. We also had two Dobies, a rust and a black. Both had been horribly abused by their owners. Neither one would bite so much as a flea (although, 2 Dobies barking and raising hell was enough to deter most folks). Hell, I have more scars from my psycho cat than I do from any other animal that I've ever owned. |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by Rosybabe on Mar 17th, 2008, 6:29pm I am afraid of any dog, any size, if it barks I am scared :o...I am only comfortable with mine, that is why I miss Misty so much :'(.... in this area people leave their dogs run on the streets, specially pit bulls but since any dog makes me run I always go to pick up the mail with a broom in hand... hey my neighbors enjoy the show when they see their chihuahua chasing after me :(..my cat used to protect me and give that mean chihuahua a little lesson but since Panchito is gone too I am left alone to face my luck :'( |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by Charlie on Mar 17th, 2008, 7:21pm I don't see the appeal of them. Nasty and you never hear how wonderful one is. Another thing is that around here the owners have them because of their reputation and really don't enjoy them as pets. The dangerous thing is that they appeal to some people that wouldn't feel all that bad about something nasty happening. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by zwibbs/Scott on Mar 17th, 2008, 7:34pm Oh for God's Sake--The picture with the PitBull was Cute! As I stated earlier they can be very gentle dogs. You just have to have the time and effort to develop them. |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by Charlie on Mar 17th, 2008, 9:08pm To me, they are ugly, mean and unappealing on every level Charlie |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by brewcrew on Mar 18th, 2008, 5:18am Theo - so far you've posted nothing but red x's. Nobody can see your pics. |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by Theo83 on Mar 18th, 2008, 8:04am Sorry brewcrew, didn't realize. |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by LeLimey on Mar 18th, 2008, 8:27am Theo I've had that problem with kodak gallery before too, it's not just you! What I do is use a free photobucket account and upload pics for posting to there as it seems to work the best. I have a webshots album too which is also consistant. I have no idea why kodak gallery is cranky but it is ::) I hope that helps a bit Helen |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by seasonalboomer on Mar 18th, 2008, 8:40am Not to confuse Pit Bull with Red Bull |
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Title: Re: Beware of Pit Bull... Post by LeLimey on Mar 18th, 2008, 8:43am Or since we're now back in Formula one season, pit stop! Mind you, Rubens would say getting a red was a load of bull after his failure to exit properly after his pit stop on sunday - now look what you've started Scott! ::) |
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