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(Message started by: outofcommission on Feb 25th, 2008, 11:16pm)
Title: hillary or obama?
Post by outofcommission on Feb 25th, 2008, 11:16pm
ok how many people are sick shitless of seeing hillary's face on everything  they've  looked at  today? oboma said this. hillary said that. it's like reality show....just a little scarier.  not expressing any political views here, just sick of seeing hillary's smiling face. lets see where this one takes us.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by BarbaraD on Feb 26th, 2008, 5:22am
I posted on another thread, but I'd suggest that people go to Hillary's website and READ her proposed Health Care Plan. It makes sense and is a good plan. For us Clusterheads it would be a good deal (no pre-existing conditions rule). I don't see the others coming up with anything comparable.

As to the name calling -- B$!!!!

Obama is yelling change, but doesn't have a clue what to do to change anything. I think he's all talk.

McCain has his own problems right now. He's in with the lobbyists and can't decide where his campaign funds are coming from... Besides, he thinks everything is just fine right now with the war and the economy. The boy needs to get out more....

I still think Kinky Freidman could straighten this mess out....

Hugs BD
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Bob P on Feb 26th, 2008, 6:43am

Quote:
Besides, he thinks everything is just fine right now with the war

At least he understands what it takes to win and won't cave to the love & peace crowd.  He'll do what it takes to keep Iraq from being another Viet Nam.

Uncle Ho said of Viet Nam, "This war will be won in the streets and universitys of America".  He was right.  I think Al Queda learned that lesson also and the dumb Americans are falling right back in it.

When we walk out of Iraq before the job is done, we waste all the lives our troops have given!
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Sean_C on Feb 26th, 2008, 6:48am
I like the idea that Obama is going to get rid of NAFTA.

Lets bring jobs back to the US, and tax the fuck out of those company's that bring products from abroad.

Sean...............................
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Callico on Feb 26th, 2008, 7:18am
Obama can't get rid of NAFTA.  It is a treaty between the US and several other countries that was ratified by Congress.  He has no such power, but it makes for good demagogery and a soundbite and/or headline.

Jerry
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Melissa on Feb 26th, 2008, 9:15am
:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Maffumatt on Feb 26th, 2008, 9:30am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj4VK9wVAi0
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by thomas on Feb 26th, 2008, 9:48am

on 02/26/08 at 06:48:37, Sean_C wrote:
Lets bring jobs back to the US, and tax the fuck out of those company's that bring products from abroad.

Sean...............................

That is about the only thing I've heard from all of the "media choice" candidates that I agree with.  Sadly it's not enough to get me too excited about any of them.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by brewcrew on Feb 26th, 2008, 9:53am

on 02/26/08 at 06:48:37, Sean_C wrote:
I like the idea that Obama is going to get rid of NAFTA.

Lets bring jobs back to the US, and tax the fuck out of those company's that bring products from abroad.

Sean...............................

So, you're in favor of the government manipulating the open marketplace?
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by BarbaraD on Feb 26th, 2008, 11:18am

on 02/26/08 at 06:43:46, Bob P wrote:
At least he understands what it takes to win and won't cave to the love & peace crowd.  He'll do what it takes to keep Iraq from being another Viet Nam.

Uncle Ho said of Viet Nam, "This war will be won in the streets and universitys of America".  He was right.  I think Al Queda learned that lesson also and the dumb Americans are falling right back in it.

When we walk out of Iraq before the job is done, we waste all the lives our troops have given!


My question is -- what job are we trying to do? Make Iraq a democracy? That's never gonna happen and anyone with any sense should know that. Stop Al Queda? How? In Iraq? We didn't even finish in Afganistan.

We need to concentrate on stopping illegal immigration into OUR country NOW! Our immigration system is BROKE and it needs more than a bandaide. But so far no one has come up with anything solution to fixing the problem.

Americans have become lazy and are believing everything they hear on TV instead of researching and thinking for themselves. Else why would we keep electing all these SAME old people to REPRESENT US in Congress....

Hugs BD
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by George_J on Feb 26th, 2008, 12:03pm

on 02/26/08 at 09:53:16, brewcrew wrote:
So, you're in favor of the government manipulating the open marketplace?


Good or bad, there's nothing new about the US government regulating trade with foreign nations.  

http://www.enotes.com/major-acts-congress/tariff-act

NAFTA, free trade, and tariffs really deserve an extensive national discussion.  What benefits the nation?  What harms it?  Why and how?  

Can we do that sort of thing nowadays?  Dunno.  Have we ever done that sort of thing?  I doubt it.  But perhaps we can try.

Best,

George
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by lashultz on Feb 26th, 2008, 12:22pm

on 02/26/08 at 06:43:46, Bob P wrote:
At least he understands what it takes to win and won't cave to the love & peace crowd.  He'll do what it takes to keep Iraq from being another Viet Nam.

Uncle Ho said of Viet Nam, "This war will be won in the streets and universitys of America".  He was right.  I think Al Queda learned that lesson also and the dumb Americans are falling right back in it.

When we walk out of Iraq before the job is done, we waste all the lives our troops have given!


Iraq already is another Vietnam, we can't win, we can't change other cultures to suit what George Bush thinks they should be. We have already lost way too many young lives. I deeply feel for their families. But why should we lose more lives. The hype that if we walk out of Iraq,the terriosts win is false. If Iraq had no oil, I truley believe we would have never been their in the first place.

                          Lee
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Bob P on Feb 26th, 2008, 12:43pm
Uncle Ho was a pretty smart feller!
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Paul98 on Feb 26th, 2008, 1:14pm
[quote author=Bob P link=board=general;num=1203999385;start=0#2 date=02/26/08 at 06:43:46]

Uncle Ho said of Viet Nam, "This war will be won in the streets and universitys of America".  He was right.  I think Al Queda learned that lesson also and the dumb Americans are falling right back in it.
quote]

Ho left one thing out....The press.

-P.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by starlight on Feb 26th, 2008, 1:57pm
I was 150% sure I was voting for Hillary--didn't like Obama, loved Hillary--then 2 days before voting switched to Obama.  All I can say is that I guess they seem similar in their stances--and I guess his charisma finally won me over.  I too am tired of Hillary's fake and scary smile.  
I think Obama's likeability would be good--there is much diplomacy needed in the world right now.  
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by brewcrew on Feb 26th, 2008, 2:14pm
:-X

(I need to stay out of these threads, I need to stay out of these threads, I need to stay out of these threads, I need to stay out of these threads, I need to stay out of these threads, I need to stay out of these threads, I need to stay out of these threads, I need to stay out of these threads, I need to stay out of these threads, I need to stay out of these threads, I need to stay out of these threads, I need to stay out of these threads, I need to stay out of these threads, I need to stay out of these threads, I need to stay out of these threads)
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Melissa on Feb 26th, 2008, 2:17pm
I'd rather have an enema.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Charlotte on Feb 26th, 2008, 3:35pm
Don't worry, Melly.  They may still give enemas to ladies in labor at the hospital (been so long since I've been in labor-they probably changed procedures) and you may get this preference granted. Lol.

Actually, as an embarassed Democrat, I wish we had option #3.

I may vote for Huckaby simply for the fun things you could say in witty slogans including his name, regardless of Dem or Rep (ie: Huck Huck, gives a ....)

Charlotte
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by brewcrew on Feb 26th, 2008, 4:02pm
Here is what American politics has come down to, in my humble estimation:

40% of voters vote liberal. Always have, always will.

40% of voters vote conservative. Always have, always will.

The other 20% - the Milquetoast Middle - are swayed by the wind (and sometimes other things, like tingly feelings they get in their tummies). It is these people - the ones who stand for nothing - that choose our leaders. And the people (if you can call them that) who run for office end up pandering to this milquetoast middle.

I'm so sick of it.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by LeLimey on Feb 26th, 2008, 4:02pm
I can't help thinking of "Obamalamadingdong" every time I see "Obama"

I prefer him to Hillary though. Whilst I would love to see a woman president I would want it to be the right woman and not just a woman.

I don't really think you have much of a choice though as other's have said. I follow it all with great interest as it affects us all.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Sandy_C on Feb 26th, 2008, 4:26pm

on 02/26/08 at 16:02:08, brewcrew wrote:
Here is what American politics has come down to, in my humble estimation:

40% of voters vote liberal. Always have, always will.

40% of voters vote conservative. Always have, always will.

The other 20% - the Milquetoast Middle - are swayed by the wind (and sometimes other things, like tingly feelings they get in their tummies). It is these people - the ones who stand for nothing - that choose our leaders. And the people (if you can call them that) who run for office end up pandering to this milquetoast middle.

I'm so sick of it.



Oooooh, wait a second Brew!

I'm not a liberal, never have been.  I'm not a conservative, never have been.  I consider myself I guess a "moderate".   So in your scenario, I fall into that 20% of mindless voters.

Maybe this 20% are not Milquetoast, people who are swayed by the wind, stand for nothing.  Maybe this 20% of people actually listen to what the candidate is saying, rather than party rhetoric.  Maybe this 20% actually considers what a candidate has accomplished in the past and what he/she envisions for the future, rather than party rhetoric.  Maybe this 20% of the people can see beyond color of skin, gender, religious affiliation.

I'm not a liberal.  I'm not a conservative.  I guess, I'm one of your milquetoast voters.

Know what?  I'm proud of it.  At least it shows I have a mind and can think for myself.

Now, Bill, don't get your knickers in a wad here.  I respect your opinion, and enjoy the opportunity to express mine.
We are friends, and politics will not change that.

:-*

Sandy
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Paul98 on Feb 26th, 2008, 4:29pm

on 02/26/08 at 16:02:15, LeLimey wrote:
I can't help thinking of "Obamalamadingdong" every time I see "Obama"

I prefer him to Hillary though. Whilst I would love to see a woman president I would want it to be the right woman and not just a woman.

I don't really think you have much of a choice though as other's have said. I follow it all with great interest as it affects us all.


And if Hillary did win, you still would not have a woman as president!  She may be female...sort of, but she is no woman and cirtianly not a lady.

-P.

edit:  Maggi was a good one!
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Melissa on Feb 26th, 2008, 4:53pm

on 02/26/08 at 15:35:39, Charlotte wrote:
Don't worry, Melly.  They may still give enemas to ladies in labor at the hospital (been so long since I've been in labor-they probably changed procedures) and you may get this preference granted. Lol.

Charlotte!!  LOL!  Had one with Lily, but they don't offer them anymore.  Wouldn't want another one anyway, that SUCKED!!

But I would rather have one than vote for any of these yahoo's... ::)
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Jonny on Feb 26th, 2008, 5:09pm

on 02/26/08 at 13:57:55, starlight wrote:
 I too am tired of Hillary's fake and scary smile.  


http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dc05b3127cceb611ae90b71100000026108AZM2bNk5bM6
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by fubar on Feb 26th, 2008, 5:17pm
oh the horror...

my eyes, myeyes  [smiley=yikes.gif]
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by echo on Feb 26th, 2008, 5:55pm
I shudder to imagine what that woman looks like when she wakes up in the morning.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by starlight on Feb 26th, 2008, 6:06pm
Johnny,

That's awesome!!!!!!  I love the scary smile collage!  Oh, it's so funny that someone hasn't told her that really it's OK to just have a frownie...
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Charlie on Feb 26th, 2008, 6:46pm
I feel sorry for them and us all.

If McCain loses, he's too old for another shot. Same for Hillary because the country will have Hillary overkill. Obama would be interesting but then anything new will be.

George Bush finally found something he can do: Elect Democrats.

Charlie
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by brewcrew on Feb 26th, 2008, 7:16pm
Sandy - My knickers are not in a knot. I'm willing to bet you are quite the principled voter. Notice I didn't say "40% democrats and 40% republicans." Big difference in my book between that and "liberals and conservatives."

I'm just sick to death of what has become of American government, politics, and the political process. I am proud to call myself a strict constructionist, and any deviation from the Constitution is just short of treason in my book. The Constitution is not a "living document" as so many would have us believe. The only time it "lives" is when it is amended, and that requires ratification from two-thirds of the states.

I've witnessed an acceleration of this deviation from the Constitution in my lifetime, and I guarantee our forefathers are rolling over in their graves.

Gotta go to choir rehearsal, but that's about all I can think of to say on this subject. Singing and playing gives me real escape from all this crap, and it makes me feel better.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Paul98 on Feb 26th, 2008, 7:28pm

on 02/26/08 at 19:16:37, brewcrew wrote:
Sandy - My knickers are not in a knot. I'm willing to bet you are quite the principled voter. Notice I didn't say "40% democrats and 40% republicans." Big difference in my book between that and "liberals and conservatives."

I'm just sick to death of what has become of American government, politics, and the political process. I am proud to call myself a strict constructionist, and any deviation from the Constitution is just short of treason in my book. The Constitution is not a "living document" as so many would have us believe. The only time it "lives" is when it is amended, and that requires ratification from two-thirds of the states.

I've witnessed an acceleration of this deviation from the Constitution in my lifetime, and I guarantee our forefathers are rolling over in their graves.

Gotta go to choir rehearsal, but that's about all I can think of to say on this subject. Singing and playing gives me real escape from all this crap, and it makes me feel better.


I agree Brew!  To inturpret the Constitution as such is just another way to say "we make up the rules as we go along to suit our agenda"  

-P.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Annette on Feb 26th, 2008, 7:32pm

on 02/26/08 at 12:43:29, Bob P wrote:
Uncle Ho was a pretty smart feller!



He was nothing but a puppet for the Soviet Communists !
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Paul98 on Feb 26th, 2008, 7:41pm

on 02/26/08 at 19:32:25, Annette wrote:
He was nothing but a puppet for the Soviet Communists !


And while they were pulling his strings, they were also busy organizing subversive activity in the USA.  A lot of it started back in the 30's but it really took root in the 60's  

-P.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Bob P on Feb 27th, 2008, 6:51am

on 02/26/08 at 19:32:25, Annette wrote:
He was nothing but a puppet for the Soviet Communists !


I completely understand your statement Annette.  You, more than many, have the right to those statements.

But the communist north knew that if they could draw the war out into a long deal, the American people would give up and leave.  We were wrong to fight a measured war.  Heck, we made the most progress when Nixon finally bombed Hanoi.

Iraq is going the same direction as the Viet Nam war but it isn't Viet Nam yet.  It will only become another Viet Nam if we pull out before it's over.  McCain knows that first hand.  That's why he's supported the 'surge'.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by thomas on Feb 27th, 2008, 8:46am

on 02/26/08 at 19:16:37, brewcrew wrote:
The Constitution is not a "living document" as so many would have us believe.  

That is one thing that sticks in my caw.  I want to play poker with people who think that way, we can use Hoyle's living poker rules.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Charlie on Feb 27th, 2008, 6:58pm

Quote:
The Constitution is not a "living document" as so many would have us believe.  


I'd feel better if our busybody Supreme Court would behave that way.

Charlie
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Annette on Feb 27th, 2008, 7:13pm

on 02/27/08 at 06:51:50, Bob P wrote:
But the communist north knew that if they could draw the war out into a long deal, the American people would give up and leave.  We were wrong to fight a measured war.  Heck, we made the most progress when Nixon finally bombed Hanoi.



You cant fight a proper war with someone who has no hesitation to play low, to use tricks and has no regard to human casualty, including civilian lives.

The Communists didnt care how many lives they would sacrifice and they kept at it until they got what they wanted.

While the people of the USA were busy feeling bad about how many lives had been lost, on both sides, the Communist government was busy brainwashing the North Vietnamese that sacrificing for the Communist ideal is a noble thing to do and that everyone, children included, should jump at the first opportunity and be proud.

The North Communists were directly run by the Soviet.

Its a very different set of minds.

Ho Chi Minh was either brainwashed himself or was forced to voice the same teaching. There are new emerging evidences that he wasnt really in control. Most if not all of his public speeches were written by someone else.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by outofcommission on Feb 29th, 2008, 12:29am

on 02/26/08 at 17:09:17, Jonny wrote:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dc05b3127cceb611ae90b71100000026108AZM2bNk5bM6


man jonny, i laughed my beer through my nose when i saw that. that is what i'm talking about. man i have probably seen her face 10 times and i've been driving a truck all day. no tv.  i see her on my cell phone, i walk into a truckstop i see her on newspapers, i saw her smiling face on at least 3 websites i have visited tonight. man shes everywhere. hell if anything, i won't vote for her just because they're shoving her in my face. i mean can you really trust somebody who has enough money to push themselves on you like that. i can't relly think of anything bad to say about oboma. he is a smoker. john mcain wants amnesty for illegal aliens. that alone will make me not vote for him. it seems that democrats have been winy wimps for too long and now it's time to dominate the evil republican party. with hillary it's personal, the republican party has hurt her and she wants revenge. it has nothing to do with health care or jobs. nafta was brought about during the clinton administration. the bush administration is pushing for this mexican pilot program to let mexicans drive trucks anywhere in the usa.
   also think about this. you know when they say "when you grow up you can be anything you want. you can even be president" well sure, as long as you've never smoked a joint, or ever got drunk at a party, or had oral sex. i mean  do we really want somebody running this country thats not getting any nooky. i know it makes me testy. i could go on and on. bottom line is we need to kick both there ass out and get something thats going to work for us. not for walmart or Exxon. i'm voting for who i want to be president. not for the opposite of what i hate.i'm not  throwing my vote away, i'm voting for who i want. however, anybody that votes democrat or republican i can respect that as long as you've done your homework and you believe in that person. not because you hate the other party.

                                                                      johnny
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by outofcommission on Feb 29th, 2008, 12:34am

on 02/26/08 at 05:22:08, BarbaraD wrote:
I still think Kinky Freidman could straighten this mess out....

Hugs BD
glad to see another Kinky Freidman fan on the board. texas is a great state.
;)
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Ghost on Feb 29th, 2008, 1:30pm

on 02/26/08 at 16:02:08, brewcrew wrote:
Here is what American politics has come down to, in my humble estimation:

40% of voters vote liberal. Always have, always will.

40% of voters vote conservative. Always have, always will.

The other 40% - the Milquetoast Middle - are swayed by the wind (and sometimes other things, like tingly feelings they get in their tummies). It is these people - the ones who stand for nothing - that choose our leaders. And the people (if you can call them that) who run for office end up pandering to this milquetoast middle.

I'm so sick of it.

there fixed it ... you know we gotta use the vote early vote often crowd.

Mike
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by BlueMeanie on Feb 29th, 2008, 5:13pm
This guy must have esp, he read my mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fnCQZT-Xlc&feature=user
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Ghost on Feb 29th, 2008, 5:15pm
I vote NO! ;) ;;D

Mike
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by jpa on Feb 29th, 2008, 7:00pm
I don't care who you are voting for, this is funny!

Question time -
Hillary Clinton was spending the morning at a primary school in Ithaca,
New York, to talk to the children about her job as a US Senator. After her
talk, she offered question time. One little boy put up his hand, and the
Senator asked him his name. "Kenneth." "And what is your question,
Kenneth?" "I have three questions: · First - Whatever happened to your
medical health care plan? · Second - Why would you run for President after
your husband shamed the office? · And third - Whatever happened to all the
stuff you and President Clinton took when you left the White House?" Just
then the bell rang for recess. Hillary Clinton informed the kids that they
would continue after recess. When they resumed, Hillary said, "Okay, where
were we? Oh, that's right, question time. Who has a question?" A different
little boy raised his hand; the esteemed Senator from New York pointed him
out and asked him his name. "Larry." "And what is your question?" "I have
five questions: · First - Whatever happened to your medical health care
plan? · Second - Why would you run for President after your husband shamed
the office? · Third - Whatever happened to all the stuff you and President
Clinton took when you left the White House? · Fourth - Why did the recess
bell go off 40 minutes early? And; · Fifth - What happened to Kenneth?"
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Jonny on Feb 29th, 2008, 9:15pm

on 02/29/08 at 17:13:14, BlueMeanie wrote:
This guy must have esp, he read my mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fnCQZT-Xlc&feature=user


Damn, thats a good find, Blue!!!! ;)
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Kirk on Mar 1st, 2008, 6:57pm
  After reading their speaches, Articles they have both written for various publications. I've read both of their proposed health care plans. And 875 pages of Hillary's first Health Care Plan. I found that they are both Liberal Fascists. I don't want to live under that form of government anymore.
  So, there is little chance that I will vote for either of them.

[smiley=smokin.gif]
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Groov on Mar 1st, 2008, 7:42pm

on 02/26/08 at 16:02:15, LeLimey wrote:
I can't help thinking of "Obamalamadingdong" every time I see "Obama"


osama obamalamadingdong
Nice silly song that fits him just right. The Name Game would be hard with Barak tho.


I agree Lashultz, the Iraq war is a turd hunt. That little fiasco is gonna cost us so much, we'll NEVER get it paid off...not to mention that it was fundamentally unConstitutional to begin with.


BarbaraD, people can only vote for a choice of 2 candidates. You can do like me and vote for "other", but one of those 2 wankers WILL end up getting in regardless. But I suppose it is fun to believe there is actually a "choice"  :-[

 
 But on a happy note, I got top dollar on a Zildjian cymbal I sold on Ebay this week
 :D
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by kimh on Mar 1st, 2008, 8:24pm
I think Hilary is a terrorist.

Obama .......well, let's just say i'm waiting for him to tell me he'll cure clusters.

McCain.......nope.

The only candidate that pricked my ears was the guy who promised to do away with the IRS.  He's gone now (sigh).

LOL.

I say we storm congress.

Otherwise .............my advice is to stick yer heads between yer legs and kiss yer ass gaBYE :D

Really, when ya think about it, the myans say we're all gonners in a few years anyway  LOL.

Next in line for news frontwoman 8)
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by KingOfPain on Mar 1st, 2008, 11:04pm
I am not going to vote for either of them but as far as Hillary is concerned...

http://www.clintonmemoriallibrary.com/clintcrimefamily.html

Hillary Clinton became the first First Lady to testify before a grand jury when she was subpoenaed by the Whitewater grand jury.

   * Took a $100,000 bribe, camouflaged as futures trades, from Tyson Foods Inc.
   * Speculated in Health Care industry futures while overseeing legislative reform of same.
   * Failed to correct false testimony by co-defendant Ira Magaziner in Health Care trial.
   * Obstructed justice by ordering the shredding of Vince Foster's documents in the Rose Law Firm.
   * Ordered members of the Health Care Task Force to shred documents that were the target of a court probe.
   * Ordered the removal of documents from Vince Foster's office and told aides to lie about their removal of documents.
   * Obstructed justice by keeping her billing records, a document sought under subpoena, in the White House residence.
   * Lied to investigators about her knowledge about billing records.
   * Lied to investigators about her involvement in the Castle Grande land flip con.
   * Ordered the use of the FBI to discredit Travel Office employees.
   * Lied to investigators about her involvement in the firing of Travel Office Employees.
   * A Federal judge orders a trial on July 25, 1994 to determine if Hillary Clinton's heath care task force illegally operated in secret.
   * The White House finally releases more than 2,000 documents on June 25, 1996, relating to the travel office firings, originally requested two years prior by congressional investigators.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Charlie on Mar 2nd, 2008, 5:52pm
Right wing insanity on the same level as the blogs that accuse John McCain of being something close to a deserter

Charlie
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by brewcrew on Mar 2nd, 2008, 6:21pm
I don't know about desertion, but I know my first amendment rights have been curtailed by McCain-Feingold.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by BarbaraD on Mar 4th, 2008, 8:11am
I loved Huckabee when he said he believed in reincarnation - especially on voting day -- all the cemeteries arose and went to the polls.... That guy is funny to say the least. It would be hillarious if he beat McCain for the nomination. I might even vote for him. At least he'd keep SNL in jokes for four years.
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by Jonny on Mar 4th, 2008, 9:34pm
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=93c_1204641930 ;;D
Title: Re: hillary or obama?
Post by outofcommission on Mar 5th, 2008, 1:15am

on 03/04/08 at 21:34:58, Jonny wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=93c_1204641930 ;;D

lol


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