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(Message started by: sleeponhold on Jan 14^th, 2008, 3:03am)

Title: Cyberbullying
Post by sleeponhold on Jan 14^th, 2008, 3:03am

There are several people who use these message boards who are unaware that cyberbullying is a crime punishable by law. The police have been notified and they are now monitoring the movements of said individuals for further attacks, not to mention this entire website. If they discover that the abuse inflicted by a few members of this site is actually a rampant problem, the site will be shut down. Honestly, I highly doubt that everyone on this site is a criminal abuser. But there are a few of them on this site that are ruining it for all of you.

Trying to bait someone into suicide and trying to convince someone that suicide is the only answer to CH is sick. The police agreed with me. And it scares all of us to think how many CH sufferers may have indeed committed suicide after being bullied into it by a predator on this site. I don't accept that kind of abuse in my life, hence my contacting the police. They said I did the right thing, and that if more people reported computer crimes the Internet would be a lot safer. Hopefully it will make this site a safe place for people in the future, because it certainly is not now.

For everyone on this site who is genuinely trying to help each other, please keep fighting the good fight! And if you run into more cyberbullies, report them to the police immediately.

Be safe - and don't kill yourself, no matter how hard someone tries to convince you to!!

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by vietvet2tours on Jan 14^th, 2008, 4:11am

Yer a loonertik.

Potter

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by artonio7 on Jan 14^th, 2008, 4:39am

Dear sleeponhold... if at any time you want to talk please just private message me or anyone of us.

If you are having a personal crisis at the moment and can't reach anyone Look at the top topic CRISIS HOTLINE

hope this helps,

with warm regards,
Tony

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Annette on Jan 14^th, 2008, 5:57am

Hi and welcome

You can email or PM me anytime if you wish to talk, I am willing to listen.

Sometimes its hard to understand ones feeling through typed words, but do try to reach out again. There are many many people here who are genuinely caring and helpful.

Annette

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Jonny on Jan 14^th, 2008, 6:07am

Oh no, the cyber pigs are on to us....RUN!!!....LMMFAO ;;D

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by sandie99 on Jan 14^th, 2008, 6:22am

Ok... I know I have missed threads and/or posts a lot lately, but still...

Quote:

Trying to bait someone into suicide and trying to convince someone that suicide is the only answer to CH is sick.

But what is this all about? [smiley=huh.gif]

Sanna

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by chewy on Jan 14^th, 2008, 6:41am

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9gnMiI9SotHgC8B9DOjzbkF/SIG=12ev05hd8/EXP=1200397245/**http%3A//www.ashleysaunders.com/ashblog/archives/reno911.jpg

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by brewcrew on Jan 14^th, 2008, 7:34am

Welcome. Sorry you have to be here, but glad you found us.

Are you chronic or episodic?

Are you currently using any preventatives?

What do you use to abort your attacks?

Stick around. Read. Learn. Read some more. There's lots of great experience here to help you.

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by chewy on Jan 14^th, 2008, 7:47am

Call the Brew.

He's wearing his OUCH PJs and is rareing to go.

Let it ring a few times. He might be in the bathroom.

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Charlotte on Jan 14^th, 2008, 8:02am

You came here with a lot of anger. I have seen people reach out.

Why don't you stop in when you are less angry?

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Paul98 on Jan 14^th, 2008, 8:12am

on 01/14/08 at 06:07:42, Jonny wrote:

Oh no, the cyber pigs are on to us....RUN!!!....LMMFAO ;;D

Aww, you screws will never take me alive...Dirty coppers [smiley=laugh.gif]

-P.

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Woobie on Jan 14^th, 2008, 8:21am

on 01/14/08 at 03:03:31, sleeponhold wrote:

ummmmm, HUH? >:(

I seriously doubt ANYONE here "Bullied" anyone......

Can you provide a link - or a quote.... ???

If you cannot provide any such evidence of "cyberbullying" ........... much less a "rampant problem".... then I think you're the one with the problem, and your threat is just a bunch of bull(ying).

I seriously hope you get whatever help it is that you obviously need.

peace out
woobie

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Melissa on Jan 14^th, 2008, 8:26am

http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=knowya;action=display;num=1200196423

Need I say more? ::)

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by BarbaraD on Jan 14^th, 2008, 8:27am

Dear Cyberpolice,

As one of the "oldest" posters on this site, I think I can safely say that "sleeponhold" doesn't have a clue what the hell he/she is talking about. I have NO recollection of anyone bullying anyone into suicide (a few have been stopped over the years) or even suggesting it (it's NOT an option to CH).

Now, if asking questions of a "new" poster constitutes bullying, then we'd all suggest that sleeponhold find another site to bug and get the hell off this one.

Sincerely,
Barbara D

Disclaimer: The views of this poster do not necessarily represent the views of the entire site!

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Maffumatt on Jan 14^th, 2008, 8:43am

Wow.

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by phil_h on Jan 14^th, 2008, 8:58am

SLEEPONHOLD , Welcome . Sometimes we arrive here completely exhausted from battling the beast and very edgy . We check in and may feel we are getting less than the support the board can offer . When angry we strike out at others and make the board another battle ground . In anger we may say , FU and go back to the solitude of our pain and anger . The beast wants that cut off for you . Now I don't know you , but I've just described my early entry to this board . I did not want to be here , I did not want the pain ,I did not completely accept this illness . Out of pain and fatique , I found a reason not to be active here and lurked without posting for a couple of years . Shame on me......... There is all the help and support you could ever want here . You do have to remember , some of us are chronics , some of us are episodics : but none of us are cured . A certain amount of tention is always present here . Noone wants anyone to commit suicide. Pull up a chair and stay awhile . It's probably not a great idea to attack the board you need . All that matters is that you are here . Peace ............. phil h

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Ghost on Jan 14^th, 2008, 9:05am

I go away for a couple of dayz and look what happens.

ok snooz on standby, Looking at what you have posted to date you arrived bitter demanding things and offering nothing. If you will sit down set up your icepack and O2, you will see that folks here dont respond well to unprovocked attacks(cyber bullying). Then to make threats (cyber bullying) shows you arrived with a mount rushmore sized chip. We all will talk and comfort as needed, some may not be the way you like but you are dealing with alot of people who are in pain too. I too had to have that point shook into me by the king, and that being said I now have the utmost respect for him and all others here.

There is alot of advise and support offered here, and as a great CHer has said take what you need and leave the rest.

I truly hope you find relief and support here, and I like others her offer it freely. Please accept what we offer and even though it may not be the perfect advise it is given with understanding and compassion. Thank you for letting me say my peice and I truly hope we can help.

Mike

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Paul98 on Jan 14^th, 2008, 9:40am

Wow! There is a whole lot more bitterness there than caused by CH.

I don't know what would be worse, the CH or the bitterness to live with. I guess if I had a choice I would opt to live with CH. At least then I could appreciate friends, enjoy a nice sunrise and and know what it is like to be loved.

-P.

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by deltadarlin on Jan 14^th, 2008, 9:51am

sleeponhold,
I've gone back several times and reread your original post (and the responses) and I can't for the life of me see where anyone bullied you (btw, I also did an extensive search on cyberbullying and can't rally find any references to where it applies to adults). Helen asked you a lot of questions, but no more than any other newbie is asked. If the members here can't find out what's been done, it ties their hands when it comes to helping.

If all you wanted was someone to sympathize with you, all you had to do was say, "I don't want advice, don't need advice, all I want is someone who will commiserate wtih me on how bad this is". Yes, this is a support board, but it's also a place to learn more about your dx and quite possibly learn from the oldtimers that have been here since the inception of this board.

Helen did nail you for your response about *migraines* and that was justly deserved.

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by brewcrew on Jan 14^th, 2008, 9:52am

on 01/14/08 at 09:40:43, Paul98 wrote:

Good choice. Bitterness and contempt can be fatal. CH is not.

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by George_J on Jan 14^th, 2008, 11:59am

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/popcorn.gif

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jan 14^th, 2008, 12:25pm

Sleeponhold,
Though i would like to say some less than nice things regarding your attitude, I will refrain.
We understand your pain, and we understand the emotions which come up due to the pain. Together, we can all get through this. Just understand you are not alone.
There is a tremendous amount of support here, as well as a large amount of sharing treatments which have or have not worked. Please do not use this site as a medical doctor, rather, maybe you can get ideas from here and then go talk to your doctor about the ideas for treatment. Only take advice from doctors which you hire to treat you.

Relax. Believe in karma......energy you put out comes back to you in the same way.

Welcome.
B$

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by sandie99 on Jan 14^th, 2008, 12:31pm

Sleeponhold,

I have frequently visited this site for years now and quite many of them took place during the darkest hours of my life, thanks to ch and clusterblues, a form of depression I've dealed with since I got ch.

Naturally I'm solely speaking for myself, but during my visits in here nobody has told me to kill myself, encouraged nor suggested it.
Actually, quite the contrary - during my worst moments when I have been on my wits end, this site and the wonderful people in here have actually kept me alive! Thanks to their support, their wit, their excistance, I'm still here, alive and breathing and managed to overcome those suicidal thoughts I once had thanks to ch combined with clusterblues.

I'm so sorry that you have ch and you're hurting. There are lots of amazing, supporting people in here. I hope that you will see that and concentrade on that.

PF days,
Sanna

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Sandy_C on Jan 14^th, 2008, 1:50pm

Sleeponhold (aka Lisa from the Getting to Know Ya board).

I'm sorry that you feel that you have been bullied here. I've read both threads completely through, and I cannot see where any bullying has taken place other than your beginning post on this thread.

Nowhere in either thread did I read where anyone disputed your diagnosis of CH. The only things I read were constructive questions as to your current treatments, and past treatments. These questions were asked, and are asked of all newbies, just so we can get an idea of what you have tried in the past, what worked for you, what didn't work, and what suggestions we might make for you and your doctor to research that might help you.

Above all, Lisa. Nowhere did I read any mention of anyone on this board suggesting suicide to you. As long time sufferers, many chronics for decades, we all know that suicide is NOT an option. We are not willing to do it to ourselves, and we most definitely do not promote it as an option to other CH sufferers.

So, if, as you so clearly say here, that this option was promoted to you from this board, show us where. In other words, put your money where your mouth is.

Now, all that being said. You came here to find friends, friends who understand what you are going through. Lisa, this is the right place for that. Only a Clusterhead can appreciate the pain, frustration, and anger that another Clusterhead suffers.

If you are serious about finding friends here, lose the chip on your shoulder. You will find much more than just friends, you will find family.

Sandy

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Kirk on Jan 14^th, 2008, 2:33pm

Cyberbully? Why yes you are. Also a whiny ingrate. But thats another story.
[smiley=smokin.gif]

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Mosaicwench on Jan 14^th, 2008, 3:37pm

on 01/14/08 at 11:59:06, George_J wrote:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/popcorn.gif

Shove over George - and lemme have some of that!
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/popcorn.gif

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Maffumatt on Jan 14^th, 2008, 3:54pm

After reading this over and looking at the other thread I have come to the conclusion that you are full of crap, nobody bullied anyone except your unwarranted threats to have the site shut down. I had an ex KC detective look this over and he said that if you brought this to the police, they laughed at you and threw the paperwork in the trash as soon as you walked out the door. There was no threat, get a life.

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by chewy on Jan 14^th, 2008, 4:41pm

Quote:

I had an ex KC detective look this over and he said that if you brought this to the police, they laughed at you and threw the paperwork in the trash as soon as you walked out the door. There was no threat, get a life.

My work is through here.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9gnMiKi1otHOVcAXVijzbkF/SIG=12i9m23pf/EXP=1200433186/**http%3A//www.planetout.com/images/entertainment/news/reno911.jpg

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Groov on Jan 14^th, 2008, 4:56pm

Save some money & get your head examined, you are a looney.

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by chewy on Jan 14^th, 2008, 5:11pm

Me or her? LOL

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Groov on Jan 14^th, 2008, 5:18pm

OMG, I just realized that I have just committed the crime of "cyberbullying"

I have come to the decision that since I am being monitored and will likely spend the rest of my days in the pokey...I have decided to bequeath my worldly possessions to my friends right here at CH.com

Helen, you get my "spoons of the world" collection
I know you were eyeballing them last time you saw them...enjoy my Dear

Kevin, since you know a lot about science & stuff like that, you get my 1986 Chevy Blazer with wiring problems. Maybe you can get it to hold an idle. [smiley=laugh.gif]

Brew, you can have my drums and harmonicas...you might want to wash them first [smiley=laugh.gif]

and lastly, the KFC Dale Earnhardt collectible chicken buckets are up for grabs.
First person to show up here wearing a 16th century jesters outfit and bearing a NASCAR tatoo on his/her left butt cheek gets the buckets.

Good bye cruel world [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Jackie on Jan 14^th, 2008, 5:23pm

on 01/14/08 at 17:11:21, chewy wrote:

Me or her? LOL

:-X

Oh hell......both ;;D

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by brewcrew on Jan 14^th, 2008, 5:23pm

on 01/14/08 at 17:18:05, Groov wrote:

I'll take the drums.

You can keep the harmonicas. That's like willing somebody your toothbrush.

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by chewy on Jan 14^th, 2008, 5:40pm

on 01/14/08 at 17:23:04, Jackie wrote:

:-X

Oh hell......both ;;D

Differance is I'm a loon by choice.

Some are Loons, dont know it, and dont know how to enjoy it!

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Groov on Jan 14^th, 2008, 5:44pm

on 01/14/08 at 17:23:30, brewcrew wrote:

I'll take the drums.

You can keep the harmonicas. That's like willing somebody your toothbrush.

Killjoy, I was gonna give you my toothbrush as well as my Apple commodore and my compleat Zamfir's greatest hits album collection.

Now you only get the drums ingrate [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by chewy on Jan 14^th, 2008, 5:49pm

Can I have your reams of side perforated computer paper?

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by BlueMeanie on Jan 14^th, 2008, 6:05pm

5 post then calls the cyber-police. [smiley=laugh.gif]

Word of the day..... cyberincarnate.

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Groov on Jan 14^th, 2008, 7:40pm

Yes you may Chewy. I also have that beta-max with 32 hours of "Cycle S l u t s
From Hell" tapes. Come & get it.

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Yorky on Jan 14^th, 2008, 8:11pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqs2Gq48KeA

;;D

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Jonny on Jan 14^th, 2008, 9:14pm

on 01/14/08 at 03:03:31, sleeponhold wrote:

You are so full of shit your eyes bleed shit!!!!....LOL ;;D

If the cyber pigs cant do anything in this case im linking your story is just a fairy tale. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuTqHyviB58&feature=related

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by thebbz on Jan 14^th, 2008, 9:43pm

Cyber law. Get your bullit Barn. [smiley=bigguns.gif]
Oh the drama.. ::) Come and get me copper! [smiley=sgrin.gif]
thebb

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by chewy on Jan 14^th, 2008, 9:49pm

Names Fife. Barney Fife. Cyber Patrol.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v388/bgull2/th_t-1.jpg

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Charlie on Jan 14^th, 2008, 9:53pm

Quote:

Knock it off. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/clobber.gif There.

Charlie

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Groov on Jan 14^th, 2008, 11:10pm

I have just been informed by my attorney that I am indemnified as a CIA special agent against any cyberbullying charges levied against me.

So Helen, I regret to inform you that you will not be receiving the spoons of the world collection I had promised you.
However as a concellation, I have a Ferlin Husky recording on 78 for you.

Chewy gets the one sided perforated printing paper just because he asked nicely.

The KFC collectible buckets I will be keeping as well. Those are going to be a priceless collectors item someday if I can get the grease stains out of them.

The rst of you are on your own. I would get a good lawyer, the Police agreed with her you know.

Y'all are in big trouble [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Pinkfloyd on Jan 15^th, 2008, 12:01am

on 01/14/08 at 03:03:31, sleeponhold wrote:

Trying to bait someone into suicide and trying to convince someone that suicide is the only answer to CH is sick.

I don't know if this incident is real or if this person is real, but.....

It appears that this would have taken place in IMs if it happened. If it happened, it is sick. It is also possible grounds for legal action if it continues.

There are laws on the books regarding this sort of thing and many states are taking it very seriously and adding more and more legislation as time goes on. California is one state actively adding laws and following up with lawsuits. People have been successfully sued and landed in jail for cyberstalking.
Most of it falls into a class of cyberstalking and this can take place in many forms. Sending people IMs with threats, public defamation, posting personal information, etc.
Sending unsolicited IMs and emails can land people in trouble if they rise to the level of cyberstalking.

The case jonny sited was considered for action but that police dept, in that state, so far has decided not to prosecute. That case will certainly add to the calls for more legislation. I wouldn't take the fact that those idiots aren't going to jail, as a sign that the internet is a place where anything goes and that other idiots can say anything they want without repercussions.

If this did happen, I would suggest to sleeponhold to post the IMs so the group can clean it's own house. That would go for anyone that got treated in such a way.
Since it wasn't posted, I'll assume it never took place, especially from any "regulars." Who knows what evil lurks in the minds of lurkers.

Just FWIW
Bobw

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Groov on Jan 15^th, 2008, 12:49am

Seriously? Trying to get someone to kill them self is indeed bad manners or unkind.

You would have to be a mentally disturbed to begin with to kill yourself, wouldn't you?

If the unpleasant person doesn't know that the person who they are hassling is unstable, do they become culpable for something they couldnt have known?

The link Jonny posted was tragic indeed, but the girl obviously had deep emotional problems. Though it was true that the boy in question was mean to her, SHE was responsible for her own suicide. That is to say, isnt it possible that the arguments, which nasty things were said on both sides by the parents OWN admission, were just typical crap that goes on between kids?

I think maybe her parents were more to blame than the boy in question. It should have been painfully obvious to them that their daughter was mentally unstable. A parent couldnt possibly miss that. If so, they should have never let her on the internet...PERIOD !!!

Boys & girls have nasty break-ups every day in every city in every country. Terrible things are said and rumors spread. NORMAL kids get over it...it is a part of the reality of growing up.

My boy has used his own internet connection without snooping from me since he was 12.

That is because I know my son and know he has no emotional problems. I also know he doesn't stalk people or try to push people over the edge.

If there had ever been ANY question, I would have never let him even have a computer.

I gotta wonder why some parents use the "not my fault" excuse when a sexual predator comes to their home to get with their minor-aged daughter!?!?!?

People, if your child needs protected, it is 100% your responsibility to do so. If you cant watch them, don't let them surf the web unattended. Just that simple !!!

As far as this person here, My advise is: GROW UP. If you have an unpleasant experience at a site...speak your peace, post proof of your allegations, settle it & leave. Going running to the cops is such a candy-ass way to approach it.

If someone here was nasty to me, I would be more than happy to expose them as a jerk. I wouldn't go cry to Efraim Zimbalist Jr. or J. Edgar Hoover.

His/her behavior from the start has been inappropriate.

Want to be taken seriously or respected? Act like an adult and settle things like an adult.

Just trying to help.

Cheers, Dave

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Pinkfloyd on Jan 15^th, 2008, 1:07am

on 01/15/08 at 00:49:48, Groov wrote:

I wouldn't go cry to Efraim Zimbalist Jr.

I'd prefer going to Stephanie Zimbalist ;)

Everything you said is right on.
The problem is that there are a lot of unstable people on the net. Add to that the large number of kooks with bad intentions, and problems arise. The days of old when it took some smarts to use the internet ended when America Online made it easy enough for first graders. Add to the mix, parents that think the internet is just a TV with a keyboard and for $19.99 a month, they have a full time babysitter. :(

Lots of unstable homes leave kids vulnerable sometimes. Just because the parents "should" have been there, doesn't make it any less a shame what happens to the kids.

Bobw

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by LeLimey on Jan 15^th, 2008, 6:08am

Bob, I don't think she had time to be im'd before she took umbrage though as she got her knickers in a knot from my first post which was not mean at all.

The only people who had responded to her before this thread was started were me, KevinM, Bob Johnson, one post from Potter and a link to chat from Brew. I am pretty damn sure that anyone who was going to give her a hard time would have done so on the thread in the first place.

My personal opinion for whatever it's worth is that this is someone who came here to cause trouble, not look for help.

Helen

Title: Re: Cyberbullying
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 15^th, 2008, 8:42am

on 01/15/08 at 06:08:05, LeLimey wrote:

I am pretty damn sure that anyone who was going to give her a hard time would have done so on the thread in the first place.

Female and confusing, yellow tape line for me, CH stuff only keeping Helen's lead

on 01/15/08 at 01:07:47, Pinkfloyd wrote:

smarts to use the internet ended when America Online made it easy enough for first graders.

because that's where I came in.