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(Message started by: barbee on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 10:38am)

Title: Triggers: how fast?
Post by barbee on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 10:38am

Some of us have known triggers, (wine, pickles, etc.) How fast do these work? If you have a glass of wine with dinner, and then a CH shortly after, you can thank the wine for this. BUT, if the Beast doesn't hit you until 2:00 AM, is the wine responsible, or is it the sleep that brings it on? >:( >:( [smiley=huh.gif] [smiley=huh.gif]

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by Mac on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 10:57am

I think most of us get headaches an hour or so after going to sleep red wine or not . That's a pretty common trait.

IMHO a trigger would be something that effects you soon after ingesting. [smiley=frown.gif]

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by jminmilwaukee on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 11:04am

A trigger for me would be beer, soy sauce, certain perfumes and the like. I get hit within minutes of ingesting or smelling a trigger.

jmin

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by Paigelle on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 11:05am

If I am not in cycle, then red wine will cause me to have a full blown migraine in about an hour or less. If in cycle I would get a CH in about 30 minutes after the glass of wine. No drinking for me.

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by thomas on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 11:05am

When in cylce hot dogs 10 min.

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by echo on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 11:10am

Chardonay wine will stomp my eye out within 10 minutes.

Airport approach when coming down from above 30K', comes on slow and stays for about an hour.

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by Paigelle on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 11:11am

I have heard hotdogs are really bad for CH and migraines. I haven't had any problems with that. But I am not about to eat one until after cycle. I avoid wine and onions. I avoid both most of the time anyway. I love onions, but my head has a different opinion.

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by TomM on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 3:34pm

I've had a beer (Corona) trigger a Kip 5 as soon as it hit my gullet. Then blew to a kip 9 in 10 minutes.
I avoid red wine when in cycle. I steer away from alcohol, smokes, processed meat, and live a boring life while in cycle. Note that I stated, "steer away from" and not "quit".

on 12/02/03 at 11:10:42, echo wrote:

Chardonnay wine will stomp my eye out within 10 minutes.

Whew! I thought I read White Zinfandel. ;)
TomM

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by Callico_Kid on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 3:44pm

For me they vary. Spray paint, magic marker, and some perfumes - INSTANT 8-9. Nutrasweet (aspartame) about 10 minutes. Processed meats, ham, bacon, (nitrites) about 30 minutes. I don't drink, so I can't say about that. I've about forgotten how to be out of cycle. :(

jc

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by Cluster_head on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 3:46pm

Some triggers are instant (bleach vapors) and some take a few minutes (alcohol, nitrates).

Alcohol has been my only way to reach a K-10 so far. Bleach a close second.

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by Paigelle on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 3:59pm

The only trigger I really have had to cause a CH is alcohol and that is only when I am in a cycle. Nothing else really triggers, except for time of year.

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by thomas on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 4:28pm

I also find that while in cycle all of my senses are heightened. So anything that is disagreeable - taste, sight, sound, smell can bring on a ch. But mostly I avoid achohol and hot dogs.

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by Rick_K on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 6:44pm

A full blown CH before the beer is half finished. I avoid beer like the plague while in cycle. Out of cycle ok. Also MSG is very bad both in our out of cycle.

Rick

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by BarbaraD on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 6:53pm

on 12/02/03 at 18:44:35, Rick_K wrote:

A full blown CH before the beer is half finished. I avoid beer like the plague while in cycle.
Rick

I haven't had a beer in about 12 years. Why take the chance. It's about the only thing that has ever triggered one on me, but a couple of sips and WHAM!!!! I love beer but not that much. Haven't tried it out of cycle (cause I haven't been out of cycle in years) - just afraid of what could happen. Wine, other alcohol doesn't bother me one way or the other in or out of cycle.

I think the barometer is my trigger.

Hugs BD

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by Prense on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 7:04pm

Personally, I define a trigger as being hit in less than an hour after injesting/inhaling something. My only known triggers hit me in less than 30 minutes if they do hit.

Chris

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by Roxy on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 7:12pm

Only time anything triggered my head was when my son was refinishing his hard wood floors. Walked in the door and went to my knees within a minute.....nasty :o.

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by barbee on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 8:01pm

My alltime surefire trigger is sleep. My head apparently hates being horizontal. Once in awhile it lets me sleep 4 hours straight, but not often

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by don on Dec 2^nd, 2003, 8:05pm

20 minutes after eating.

Eating what?

Anything.

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by 12gagueblast on Dec 3^rd, 2003, 1:45am

Beer: before I have got 1/2 way thru a beer the CH starts. Chocolate almost instant (i had 2 frickin Woppers and it started imediately, was aborted with 02 tho). Both only when in cycle tho. I would assume wine and hard alcohol would be the same as the beer but i dont drink wine and dont drink the hard stuff much anymore. :)

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by BlueMeanie on Dec 3^rd, 2003, 2:09am

on 12/02/03 at 20:01:39, barbee wrote:

My alltime surefire trigger is sleep. My head apparently hates being horizontal. Once in awhile it lets me sleep 4 hours straight, but not often

That's for sure the worst trigger of all. Other than beer. Nothing else is really a trigger for me except for Cigar smoke. Was at the riverboat next to a guy smoking one. Couldn't stay more than a couple of hands before the night was shot.

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by TomM on Dec 3^rd, 2003, 8:15am

on 12/02/03 at 19:12:51, Roxy wrote:

... Walked in the door and went to my knees within a minute..... :o.

Oh, the places I could go with this.... ;;D
Hi, Roxy!

Well, I had one drink last night and WHAM! I had my first sip of alcohol in a few days PF and I blew it. Now I'm paying but it was sooooo good going down.

TomM

Title: Re: Triggers: how fast?
Post by taraann on Dec 3^rd, 2003, 8:30am

on 12/02/03 at 15:46:13, Cluster_head wrote:

Some triggers are instant (bleach vapors) and some take a few minutes (alcohol, nitrates).

Alcohol has been my only way to reach a K-10 so far. Bleach a close second.

I am so surprised someone else said bleach as a trigger! I so prefer to clean with diluted bleach and use bleach alot in the wash and every single time it cause a kip7-9. I just thought maybe I was allergic to cleaning ::)