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(Message started by: Jayne on Nov 26^th, 2003, 5:08pm)

Title: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by Jayne on Nov 26^th, 2003, 5:08pm

I pm'd him and asked him what the cure was and he shared with me. Here was his answer

"Get ahold of some 2% viscous lidocaine and when you feel the headache coming on put it on a Q tip and put it back in the affected side of your nose. I do it three times and snort it in. I hope it helps. "

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by brain_cramps on Nov 26^th, 2003, 5:14pm

sheesh!!! I have a hard time believing that would do anything!

I fell asleep for an hour and wake up and everyone is pissed at this guy who has started 3 threads but somehow only has 2 posts to his name!

I gotta get my sleep-cycle back in order!

keep missin all the fun,
grant ::)

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by thomas on Nov 26^th, 2003, 5:14pm

Now why couldn't he just say that? Just another abortive as far as I'm concerned.

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by KingOfPain on Nov 26^th, 2003, 5:15pm

Inspector Clouseau

http://inspectorclouseau.com/images/clouseau.gif

;;D

Way To Go Jayne!

KOP

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by brain_cramps on Nov 26^th, 2003, 5:15pm

LMAO KOP!!!!!

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by jonny on Nov 26^th, 2003, 5:21pm

on 11/26/03 at 17:14:54, thomas wrote:

Now why couldn't he just say that?

$$$$...??

Trying to make a buck somehow off our pain?

...............................jonny

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by Jayne on Nov 26^th, 2003, 5:24pm

I've always said I give Jimi Hendrix a run for his money!!!

for those who are confused that is our resident cluster detective!

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by brain_cramps on Nov 26^th, 2003, 5:25pm

WOW!!!

watta family! we got bouncers at the door, detectives... everybody stickin up for each other!

amazing!!! caught that guy right away!

grant :D

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by Jayne on Nov 26^th, 2003, 5:26pm

more info from garmar21

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You can ask your doctor to get a prescription. It is only a problem if you are allergic to lidocaine. They have a nose spray that is available also. That way you wont jam the q tip in to far. Doctors know of this but are reluctant to prescrib it for some reason"

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by Tiannia on Nov 26^th, 2003, 5:27pm

cause he deleted two of his posts when people got all over him for wanting to make money off of us. Arsehole!!!!!!!

Tia

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by BobG on Nov 26^th, 2003, 5:33pm

Hey garmar,
Fun and games aside. We've had some fun. Thanks.

Lots of scams about "cures" have come across this board ever since it started. We can't be scammed with the word "cure".

Your suggestion just happens to be an "old" abortive method known for years.

If you really do suffer from cluster headaches please let us know, tell us about your self. We have lots of information, and really do want to help.

Let us know.

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by Jimi on Nov 26^th, 2003, 7:12pm

[smiley=curtain.gif]Good Job Jayne......The Bureau will be pleased.
Jimi

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by Ree on Nov 26^th, 2003, 7:16pm

was it your smile that made him let that "cat" out of the bag... Dave has tried this and it doesnt work. Might have worked once thats it... we had to order it special and it wasnt cheap either............good luck ree

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by chronic_chic on Nov 26^th, 2003, 11:41pm

You gotta be careful with lidocaine too! It causes heart arrythmias and such at certain doses. It does abort headaches...especially IV :) But it is a quite an old technique. At one point they'd given up on it altogether, but now some centers are starting to bring it back. I had some success with it helping my chronic headache symptoms when I was inpatient, but I wouldn't recommend it's use without checking heart first!

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by nancyc on Nov 26^th, 2003, 11:45pm

Chronic Chic..some of the Doctors here are using IV lidocaine in pain management for people with back problems, etc...I noticed you said they used to use it for headaches IV to abort them? :)nancyc

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by chronic_chic on Nov 26^th, 2003, 11:54pm

Hi nancyc,
Yea! When I was last in the hospital (June - July), it was a relatively new thing they were trying again. I think I was only the 2nd person they were trying it on. I did IV lidocaine for about 10 days. I was in the cardiac ICU for the first 3 days I think, and then on the Intermediate Cardiac Care Unit for the rest of the time. I have some tachycardia and a few blood pressure issues, so I have to watch out for that stuff, but the cardiologists just brush over it because I'm only 22. However, the lidocaine did wind up bringing my chronic headache down to about a 2 or 3 by the time I left the hospital. It wasn't permanent relief, but it did help for a little while! Better than the usual ole treatment I was getting every time I went inpatient! :) Don't know if everyone gets that success, and there WERE a fair amount of side effects, though. I just think it's not a drug to play around with without significant medical supervision!

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by nancyc on Nov 27^th, 2003, 12:00am

Chronic, they are bringing the patients into the office for three or four hours and using an IV drip Lidocaine on them for pain...will ask my neuro/pain management doctor if he has ever used it on chs...thanks for letting me know about this...hopefully, i wont have to resort to it as my treatment is working at the present...thank GOD! :)nancyc

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by JDH on Nov 27^th, 2003, 12:08am

on 11/26/03 at 17:26:40, Jayne wrote:

more info from garmar21

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That way you wont jam the q tip in to far.

yeah but how far is too far? :o

"2% viscous lidocaine?" isn't that just gonna numb your nose? wft good is that gonna do when you freakin' heads exploding?

Jim

Title: Re: HERE IS GARMAR21's CURE
Post by chronic_chic on Nov 27^th, 2003, 12:14am

Hey nancyc,
I actually suffer from a form of chronic daily headache known as New Daily Persistent Headache. I do share a few features of cluster headache as of more recent times, such as waking at night with severely stabbing headaches, and I get stabbing orbital headaches several times a day...up to 20 at times. But when I tried the lidocaine, I didn't have those problems much. It was more for the NDPH. I don't know all that well how effective it is in treating cluster, but you never know. Could be worth checking into with neuro at least. Since I was treated so early in the game in their procedures of doing this inpatient, I don't even know what types of patients they were trying it on, other than refractory patients in an inpatient setting who weren't responding at all to traditional treatments. So, that's about all I know about it...I will have to look into it more and see what I can find. Good luck though! :)
~Lizz :)