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(Message started by: SteveY on Nov 19^th, 2003, 3:21pm)

Title: George Bush UK visit
Post by SteveY on Nov 19^th, 2003, 3:21pm

I am appauled by the way a very small minority of the UK population have responded to your President's visit.

Whether you like George Bush or not, he is the president of the US and should be treated as such.

If you do not respect the man, respect the office.

Tomorrow there are an expected 100,000 anti war/ Bush campaigners expected to march through central London, that represents 0.00156 of the British public!

The vast majority of us Brits "Love you Guys" please do not tar us all in the same vein as a few dickheads.

I suppose you have your fair share of them too.

God bless America and the UK!

ps Michael Jackson handed himself in yet?

Steve Y

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by pubgirl on Nov 19^th, 2003, 3:28pm

hey Steve

You and I were posting at the same time.

Suspect we aren't coming from the same direction though!

Agree though, God Bless America, the most powerful nation on earth

Wendy

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by Tiannia on Nov 19^th, 2003, 3:34pm

on 11/19/03 at 15:21:55, SteveY wrote:

ps Michael Jackson handed himself in yet?

Steve Y

No he is hiding our here in Vegas. But you would think that even with his looks the drag queens down town could not hide him or long. [smiley=crackup.gif]

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by thomas on Nov 19^th, 2003, 3:40pm

Thanks Steve. From a true American.

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by cathy on Nov 19^th, 2003, 3:46pm

Wow...well said Steve!!! 8)

God Bless America & UK

http://www.uselessgraphics.com/americaflag7.gifhttp://www.uselessgraphics.com/uk04.gif

Cathy

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by Jackie on Nov 19^th, 2003, 6:27pm

Thank you, Steve.
I might not be a big George Bush fan and don't agree with some of his policy...... but he is the president of our country and deserves respect.
Oh.....I think Tony Blair is great and hate the disrespect he's getting and the hard road he's on right now....

As to the French..... [smiley=moon.gif]

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by TxBasslady on Nov 19^th, 2003, 6:34pm

8)
Thanks Steve.......

I am a "True Blue American"..........I love my Country, and have the utmost respect for the Office of the President.

I must say........to be in the home of the Queen of England must be an awesome experience.

God bless your great Country........and know that I have the utmost respect for your leaders, also.

Jean

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by Marc on Nov 19^th, 2003, 8:42pm

Steve,

Thank you - you've reminded us that there are still some intelligent, caring people in the UK.

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by jonny on Nov 19^th, 2003, 8:56pm

Thanks Steve,

I think its pretty safe to say with the size difference between our countries that the US has many more dickheads........LMMFAO ;;D

BTW....next time David blaine comes to the UK you have my permission to kill him.....LOL ;;D

.........................................jonny

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by Charlie on Nov 19^th, 2003, 10:38pm

I'm with the ones who like America and like Bush about as much as the French do.

Charlie

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by pubgirl on Nov 19^th, 2003, 10:50pm

Charlie

[smiley=oops.gif] See, I'm learning. I have written 300 times "I must not take the piss out of GWB" and I think I might be cured!

Jonny

re David Blaine. That was pretty funny, there were loads of people queueing up to [smiley=moonwiggle.gif] at him, every night people took their takeaways there so he could watch them eating, and several couples were arrested having public sex to wind him up.

Very very bad people the Brits ;;D

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by goaway on Nov 20^th, 2003, 12:03am

Thanks Steve!!

God bless us all.

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by Callico_Kid on Nov 20^th, 2003, 12:29am

Thank you Steve.

I don't agree with the president in everything, but I stand behind him one hundred percent. I respect a man who will stand up for what he believes whether I agree or not. For the same reason I have the utmost of respect for Tony Blair. He and I disagree on more than we agree on, but he is a man who knows what he stands for, and if he was over here running for office I would probably vote for him. God bless the United States and Great Britain! (That last part is kind of hard for an Irishman to say! [smiley=laugh.gif] ;;D )

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by KenB on Nov 20^th, 2003, 2:37am

Is this thread a joke or are you all actually being serious? I can't work it out. [smiley=huh.gif]

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by pubgirl on Nov 20^th, 2003, 2:44am

I thought Steve was serious, but I personally lost the plot a bit when David Blaine was mentioned as I find it hard to take him as seriously as he takes himself ;;D

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by ClusterChuck on Nov 20^th, 2003, 2:57am

Thank you for this post, Steve. It helps us to see the percentage of the population that is protesting. Glad to hear that the majority of the UK's population is still with us, regardless of their personal feelings about our president.

Thank you. There are some good Brits over there. We try not to hold citizens like Cathy against you ... heehee ...

Chuck

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by KenB on Nov 20^th, 2003, 3:18am

Hmmm - interesting argument - 100,000 people protest so you reckon that therefore the remainder of the population support the war/Bush???? How many have marched in support of the war?

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by pubgirl on Nov 20^th, 2003, 3:28am

Oh, I feel this thread becoming more serious!

I think the truth is that prior to the War there was a substantial majority in favour of supporting the USA. Once the War started the support dropped quite substantially and the demo's commenced in earnest. Would need to check the latest polls here for figures but suspect the support had dropped similarly in the USA.
Tony Blair's popularity has mirrored this too.

People here get pretty jingoistic until soldiers start dying, then they start the second thoughts.

W

Modified: All the most recent polls appear to suggest varying figures around 50/50, 60/40. Dramatic reduction in support when UN did not declare full support
Would be interested what the USA figs are

Title: Re: George Bush UK visit
Post by pubgirl on Nov 20^th, 2003, 3:37am

Here is a factual report from one of the Broadsheets about the demo's. It doesn't make us look too good really but I love the "Resist Bush Tea Party" - SO British.

Interesting that Ron Kovac was there too [smiley=huh.gif]

A series of demonstrations against President George Bush's state visit passed almost without incident yesterday as a huge security operation kept him mostly out of sight and earshot of the protesters.
More than 4,000 police officers were on duty and by 7pm they had made just 29 arrests for criminal damage, carrying offensive weapons, possession of drugs, theft, assault and public order offences.

One man was found with a sword in his car and was arrested on suspicion of possessing an offensive weapon, drink driving and possession of drugs.

The most likely flashpoint of the day - a Resist Bush Tea Party outside Buckingham Palace billed as a mass demonstration of civil disobedience and direct action - was easily contained by the large number of police lining the Mall.

The day had begun with well-wishers and the world's media outnumbering protesters as Mr Bush was introduced to the Queen and Tony Blair.

Alongside placards declaring him a war criminal and enemy of peace were other, more positive messages. Kay Moult, 25, from London, was wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the message "Luv Ya Dubya".

"People think I'm sad or mad or both," said Ms Moult, from London. "But we invited him here and he is fighting for peace so I just wanted to show him my support."

Anti-war protesters did manage to make their voices heard. As Mr Bush was introduced to dignitaries, demonstrator Joe Gittings produced a loudhailer and heckled him until he was drowned out by the band playing the US national anthem.

Mr Gittings, 32, a physics PhD student, said: "This is a completely immoral and unjustified war that is already having disastrous consequences."

Among the crowd of a few hundred at the palace were many American visitors. Richard Searle, 42, from California, said: "I want to show my support for America and its people."

The protests began with an alternative state procession, attended by more than 1,000 protesters, organised by the Stop The War Coalition, complete with peace campaigners dressed as Mr Bush and the Queen, who led the colourful but unstately procession in a horse-drawn carriage.

The organisers described it as a warm-up for today's march past parliament and up Whitehall for a mass rally in Trafalgar Square. The Stop The War Coalition, Muslim Association of Great Britain and CND hope that more than 100,000 people will take to the streets to signal their disapproval of the state visit.

As well as the horse-drawn carriage, yesterday's procession included a pink peace tank, a London taxi, several dozen cyclists and a red London bus that carried human shield volunteers to Baghdad before the war started.

"Bush is so hated that there is no way he could drive through the streets of London even in his armoured car," said Joe Letts, 58, the driver of the bus.

The procession arrived in Trafalgar Square just before 1pm, and a protester poured red dye into one of the square's fountains to symbolise the blood spilt in the war.

Victoria station was the starting point for the Buckingham Palace tea party processions, organised by Resist Bush, an umbrella organisation spearheaded by several well-known peace and anti-globalisation groups, including Justice Not Vengeance and Grass Roots Opposition to War.

By 5pm there were several hundred protesters outside the palace. But mostly the demonstrations seemed good hearted.

As darkness fell several small scuffles broke out between police and protesters as officers jumped over barriers to confiscate a sound system that had been blaring rap music in the direction of Buckingham palace. There were cheers as an American flag was burned.

Last night the mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, mobilised figures from showbusiness, politics and diplomacy to highlight his opposition to the state visit and the war on Iraq.

He staged a Peace Reception on the top floor of City Hall, where a crowd of 200 heard speeches condemning Mr Bush and his administration.

The principal guest was Ron Covic, the Vietnam veteran turned anti-war activist whose experiences inspired the film Born on the Fourth of July.