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(Message started by: Guiseppi on Apr 2nd, 2007, 9:02pm)
Title: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Guiseppi on Apr 2nd, 2007, 9:02pm
I was going thru the whole stress thread again, catching up on some recent posts. Several were mentioning the various jobs the hypothalamus does, including regulating body temp. Does everyone else suffer from an extremely limited comfort range when it comes to temperature? Granted, I live in so-cal, so there aren't the temperature fluctuations some of y'all endure. I find I am only comfy at 60-80 degrees, otherwise I absolutely freeze or overheat. Just trying to confirm I'm not a freak!   (Leave it alone Linda ;;D)

Guiseppi
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Yorky on Apr 2nd, 2007, 9:09pm
body temp.....?
sorry i cant confirm if your a freak...you should know ?

                                   ;;D
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Linda_Howell on Apr 2nd, 2007, 9:12pm


LMAO....No freeking way Guiseppi.

    I have no idea of what the answer is Joe since I, too am only comfortable in those temp. . ranges...anyone else?

I'm only here to give Joe a hard time.  ;;D
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Redd on Apr 2nd, 2007, 9:19pm
Between 60-80 degrees and then low to moderate humidity.  

I even had to turn my space heater on at the office today I was freezing and couldn't get warm for the life of me.
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by georgej on Apr 2nd, 2007, 9:19pm

on 04/02/07 at 21:12:46, Linda_Howell wrote:
    I have no idea of what the answer is Joe since I, too am only comfortable in those temp. . ranges...anyone else?


No, not particularly sensitive to temperatures outside those ranges.  

Best,

George
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Linda_Howell on Apr 2nd, 2007, 9:23pm

Must be a California/Florida thing Joe.   ;)


    :-X
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by blmiller84 on Apr 2nd, 2007, 10:27pm
I'd have to say I'm in that temp range, except move both ends up about 5 degrees. I'm the biggest freeze baby, I'm told. I was also told by a doctor that I have a form of Raynaud's phenomenon (here is a link if you are unfamiliar with it http://www.medicinenet.com/raynauds_phenomenon/article.htm)

I don't get the extremes of it with my hands turning blue (except in the winter!!  >:( stupid ohio), but my hands and feet are almost always cold which keeps me cold. Unless the temp of my surroundings is in the upper 60's and up.

When I have one of those pesky headaches I vary between being hot and cold, depending on the intensity of the pain and where I am.

~Barb
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Kirk on Apr 3rd, 2007, 1:31am
I'm uncomfortable at anything over 60 F
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Superpain on Apr 3rd, 2007, 2:02am
I posted a similar thread a while back about overheating and sweating. The hypothalamus/body temp connection was brought to my attention watching an episode of "House"...
It seems a majority of us get hot and sweat very easily. It's hard for me to get too cold, but if I'm active and it's above 70-72 degrees I sweat like a fiend.
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by bejeeber on Apr 3rd, 2007, 2:53am
There was a book called "the hidden illness" or something like that where a doctor researched hypothyroidism and found that the conventional blood tests most often didn't catch it, only a temperature test was reliable.

When the under arm temperature of hypothyroid patients was measured upon waking several days in a row, it was consistently below normal (I think by a couple degrees).

I did the test and found I was definitely consistently in that low range.

It would be interesting to know if that was a trend amongst CH folks.

What temperature range a person is comfortable in depends on the climate they're accustomed to though, right? I've acclimated to a whole different temperature range here in than Seattle area than I grew up in in So. Cal.
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by chewy on Apr 3rd, 2007, 6:03am
I become very uncomfortable when I encounter a warm spot in the pool.
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Cathi04 on Apr 3rd, 2007, 7:43am
Chewy, It could be t he heater vents..ours were in the bottom of the ........Oh, sheesh! LOL>.why do I bother........

and Juiceman........Linda and I are tag-teaming you! ;;DLife will become difficult at any temp..........be afraid!


Love,
Nurse Ratchett........
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by seasonalboomer on Apr 3rd, 2007, 9:14am
Giuseppi,

I have long wrestled with the hypothalamus/thermo reg question with CH. I run 4-6 days week, and when I have cycle coming on running is my trigger. The difference I recognize even before the cycle truly hits is that I tend to get that flushed kind of hot. That kind of hot when your face feels hot. I also notice differences in the amount of sweating I do.

Then as the cycle wraps up it seems everything has caught up and is back on track. This is often during seasonal changes or major heat waves, or sudden warm times during winter when it seems to get off track.

It would seem to make sense if the hypothalamus is goofed up that it would be goofing on us in other ways than CH -- just that CH is so obviously present.

Scott
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by ClusterChuck on Apr 3rd, 2007, 10:15am
Maybe I am just wierd (STFU, Cathi and Linda).  I am NOT a sweater.  I rarely sweat much.  Also people are shocked at how little clothing I have on, and I am not cold, when I have to go outside for a cigarette.

Maybe it is the hardy New England upbringing.  Or, as I have been accused, I don't have a heart, therefore no blood to circulate, and warm me or cool me.

Heehee

Chuck
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by kcopelin on Apr 3rd, 2007, 10:56am
Chuck, I am so glad that you are not a sweater.  Better to be a pair of jeans, or a nice scarf, n'est pas?
On a serious note:  my body temperature regulator is totally wacked.  within 5 minutes of going to bed (do not go there Linda, Joe, Cathi) I'm sweating so I throw off the covers sit in front of a fan, whatever it takes.  Then I get cold....hypothalumus.
About Reynaud's Syndrome-I was diagnosed with that in 1990.  Fingers and toes can get almost frost biten in the frozen section of the grocery store.  Wonder if there is a connection?

PFDAN y'all
kathy  
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Guiseppi on Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:58am
Thanks for the responses, can't say I'm suprised....except by the incredible restraint shown by the ladies! ;;D

Chewy, it never bothers me when I get hit by the warm spots. When the mothers start refilling their windex bottles from the pool then I KNOW its time to get out!!!

Guiseppi
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by pattik on Apr 3rd, 2007, 2:25pm
Guiseppi,
I've had problems with temperature fluctuations most of my life, but my comfort range is ususally less than 20 degrees--more like 10 degrees.  But that range changes up and down, depending on whether I'm flushed or freezing. :-/  Like some others mentioned, I have had Raynauds
Syndrome most of my adult life.  Autonomic and auto-immune issues seem like an interesting connection to the hypothalamus.  I've speculated about this quite a bit lately.

Pat  
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Redd on Apr 3rd, 2007, 3:00pm
I don't have Raynauds Syndrome, least not that has been diagnosed, or is sever enough to turn my fingers or toes purple or blue.

Right at this moment the thermostat shows it is 70 degrees.  But it's cloudy and damp, and my fingers and toes are like ice and I'm wearing a turtle neck with a heavy sweater over it.  Chilled to the bone.

That doesn't make any sence at all.
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by TonyYZF on Apr 3rd, 2007, 4:08pm
Somewhat related comments:  I have noticed since I was diagnosed with CH, that my neck (front below the adams apple and sides up to and including my ears) has become red and hot all the time.  Varies a little, but sometimes gets almost blood red and gives off heat like a sunburn.  If I rake my fingers across it, where my fingers brushed it becomes even darker for a few seconds even purple at times.  My neck is much more sensitive to hot water in the shower than the rest of my skin.  And sometimes I get carotidinia, (maybe related).

Also I have shadows daily for almost a year now and when I have external temperature deviations, like leaving an air conditioned building or vehicle and go outside to moderately warm temperatures a shadow will flare up.  Or a hit when having those.  Not sure though if it is a combined effect with squinting or furrowing my eyebrows from the brighter lights.  I have noticed some connection to tightening up my face muscles and shadows as well, so I am not sure if one or the other is a more dominant factor.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated.  Trying to make some sense of all the wierd things I have going on and figure out if they are CH symptoms or if my CH may be secondary to something else.

Thanks
Tony
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by blmiller84 on Apr 3rd, 2007, 5:56pm

on 04/03/07 at 15:00:07, Redd wrote:
Right at this moment the thermostat shows it is 70 degrees.  But it's cloudy and damp, and my fingers and toes are like ice and I'm wearing a turtle neck with a heavy sweater over it.  Chilled to the bone.

That doesn't make any sence at all.


That sounds like me most of the time when the temp outside is below 67 or so. During the winter, even if the house is 73 degrees I have on a few layers and my hands and feet are still like ice! They stay warm for a bit after a warm shower or running warm water over my hands, but once I touch something cold, my hands instantly become ice. I hate the frozen food isles of stores, as well. As I said before, my hands/feet only turn blue when it's winter.. usually after I'm outside in the 0degree windchill for a while.

Right now it is in the upper 70's outside and my hands aren't ice, but not "normal body temp" either.

ooh... just a random question relating to temp. Does anyone else have a lower normal body temp than the average 98.6? Mine is about 97.4.
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Redd on Apr 3rd, 2007, 6:26pm
Yes lower than normal.  I just took it and I'm 97.2 right now.
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by ClusterChuck on Apr 3rd, 2007, 6:38pm

on 04/03/07 at 18:26:08, Redd wrote:
Yes lower than normal.  I just took it and I'm 97.2 right now.

I always KNEW you were WIERD, Pegg .... Heehee

Normal body temp, here.

Chuck, the normal, sane one
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Redd on Apr 3rd, 2007, 7:43pm
It's been this way since I was a kid.  I used to spike fevers out of nowhere that would last a couple hours.  Doctors never knew why it would happen.  No infections no nothing.  Just mystery fevers.

Go figure.
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Superpain on Apr 4th, 2007, 2:47am
Unless I have a fever I the thermometer always reads in the 97's when I take my temp.
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by kcopelin on Apr 4th, 2007, 10:44am
I'm also always in the 97's.  
k
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by BarbaraD on Apr 4th, 2007, 11:06am
I do better in colder weather. Anyone who comes to see me wears their coats. I keep the house to meat hanging temp. My theromostat went out when I developed CH and has stayed at COLD since. I just can't endure HOT.

Hugs BD
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Redd on Apr 4th, 2007, 12:23pm

on 04/04/07 at 11:06:51, BarbaraD wrote:
I do better in colder weather. Anyone who comes to see me wears their coats. I keep the house to meat hanging temp. My theromostat went out when I developed CH and has stayed at COLD since. I just can't endure HOT.

Hugs BD


You live in TX..isn't it always hot there?  
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by BarbaraD on Apr 4th, 2007, 1:37pm
Not in the winter. And we does have A/C in the summer time. Today it's just tolerable... nice and breezy. Been sittin' out on the porch (in between tax returns -- a person's gotta take a break now and then) ;;D..

Hugs BD
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Giovanni on Apr 4th, 2007, 3:33pm
Over 80 degrees, I look like a cool aid pitcher.

John  :P
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by TonyYZF on Apr 4th, 2007, 4:09pm
My body temp is usually in the 97 range too, but I am a smoker and my understanding is that the effects of nicotine on the vascular system will lower your body temp 1 degree.  Not sure if that is a lasting effect for a regular smoker or a transient effect at the time of ingestion.  Either way, I have attributed my temp to that.  I am sure there is some variation between different people too.  98.6 may just be the average temperature for adult humans and specifically meant to represent core temperature which may be a little different from an oral temperature and definitely more accurate.

Tony
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Redd on Apr 4th, 2007, 7:12pm
Mine has been this way since long before I ever smoked.  My BP runs low as well and always has..
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Rosybabe on Apr 4th, 2007, 7:23pm
anything under 70 and I will be wearing a coat  ;;D
I am a tropical girl! I keep the A/C at 85, anything over and my BP goes to the floor. I can stand to be outside at 100 degrees!! average in Houston. :-[
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by pieface_49 on Apr 4th, 2007, 7:32pm
Interesting find.  Is the hypothalamus a root cause or just a symptom?  If the hypothalamus was malfunctioning, we should see some of the items below show up?
"The hypothalamus regulates body temperature, blood pressure, heartbeat, metabolism of fats and carbohydrates, and sugar levels in the blood."

http://www.answers.com/topic/hypothalamus

My hands and feet are always cold and I live in AR.  Has to be poor blood circulation due to 30 years of smoking.
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by blmiller84 on Apr 4th, 2007, 8:22pm

on 04/04/07 at 19:12:51, Redd wrote:
Mine has been this way since long before I ever smoked.  My BP runs low as well and always has..


My blood pressure has always been low as well. Last time I did the check thing at a Walmart (on Monday I think it was) it was something like 99/68... that is if I didn't mix up the numbers again (I always forget if the bigger one goes on top or bottom). I'm thinking that is why my doctors don't want me to take any of the blood pressure meds for preventatives, I'm not sure though. I never actually asked.

as a side note: I never have smoked (it's a trigger) so that can't play a role in any of these things for me
Title: Re: Hypothalamus and body temp
Post by Redd on Apr 4th, 2007, 8:37pm
I tried Verapamil, and I was passing out and falling to the floor too much to stay on it.  Even at as little as 100mg.  


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