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(Message started by: Rosybabe on Mar 10^th, 2007, 7:58pm)

Title: Insomnia after CH???
Post by Rosybabe on Mar 10^th, 2007, 7:58pm

Hey Guys!!

I had 3 nights without CH..Great! everyone would say..

but I keep waking up at the exact same time the beast used to show up.. 1:00 am..I do not feel pain, I do not take anything for it (because I am pain free :P)
I just can't go back to sleep until maybe 4:00 am...
3 nights of these are equally killing me because I have to be up by 5:30 am and if I take a nap during the day I will be calling the beast again!..
I am exhausted!!! :'(

Does the insomia have something to do with the fact that I am in the last month of my cycle????

I do not want to take sleeping pills, I do not want to add anything else to the bunch of drugs I have been taking for the last 2 and half months!!

maybe I am just scared of getting the pain again if I sleep... [smiley=huh.gif]

any advise????

please???

The walking zombie...

Title: Re: Insomnia after CH???
Post by Guiseppi on Mar 10^th, 2007, 9:00pm

I've never experienced that with almost 30 years of cycles! My guess is that you developed a nasty habit of waking up at the exact same time every night. Glad to hear your cycles ending, hopefully the sleep thing will vanish too!

Guiseppi

Title: Re: Insomnia after CH???
Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Mar 10^th, 2007, 9:04pm

I've always experienced the same thing following a cycle. It seems to last for a few weeks and then just settles back down again.

Thankfully I've been in remission now since 2004 and hoping that I'm finally "too damned old" for this crap anymore! ;)

Title: Re: Insomnia after CH???
Post by Kevin_M on Mar 10^th, 2007, 9:33pm

Long habits of nighttime CH, it takes me quite awhile after not getting hit to get used to longer hours of sleep when five straight hours feels consoling enough and you've learned to operate with that much uninterupted being fine afterwards for awhile. I have to tell myself its ok sleep longer when its through the long tough times. In a short span afterwards, waking up occurs for me to though.

Title: Re: Insomnia after CH???
Post by chrisw on Mar 10^th, 2007, 9:46pm

i go through that also when my cycles end i wake up in a panic ready to race to the tank, then i realize it doesnt hurt. I am so afraid of the pain that it takes me a while to go back to sleep. congrats on the pain free nights, and im sure youll be sleeping through the nighth in no time.

chrisw

Title: Re: Insomnia after CH???
Post by BB on Mar 11^th, 2007, 9:36am

Try to stay away from sleeping pills if you can. The best thing to do maybe is to take a couple of melatonin tablets when you wake up as it can put you back to sleep sooner and helps with REMS sleep also.

Have you got some soft nice music or relaxation CDs that you can listen to. Staying in bed with your eyes closed, deep slow breathing, relaxed muscles and minds will make you almost as refreshed as an actual sleep.

Learning to relax and to drop off to sleep naturally would be the best thing to do here if you can.

Painfree wishes to you.

Annette

Title: Re: Insomnia after CH???
Post by Rosybabe on Mar 11^th, 2007, 1:21pm

Thanks a lot to everyone!!!

Last night I added another night of free pain YUPPI!!! but....no I did not sleep until almost 5:00 am!!!

I guess I rather have insomnia than a nasty CH!!!

Hope in the next few days I will sleep again like a baby :D

I tried relaxing music, tila Tea and warm milk before going to bed ..I may go and check out the melatonin thing..
It did not help that my back neighboors had a party last night with mariachis and everything ::)..I should have joined them..but I am still avoiding second hand smoke...do not want to wake up the beast..if it starts going back to his hell cave ;;D
I am just afraid that all this lack of rest will trigger another CH.
Who knows??

Thanks again guys, I knew I can count on you!!

Wish you all PFD and sleepy nights too!!!

Title: Re: Insomnia after CH???
Post by TonyG1 on Mar 11^th, 2007, 9:59pm

I generally tend to be a bit of an insomniac in or out of cycle ... don't know or think it has anything to do with CH; however, I can go long periods without sleep. This past Friday was a prime example --- got up at 6:30 a.m. even though I was off from work, stayed up all day, went to the local casino in the evening, pulled an all nighter... got home around noon Saturday but didn't crash until 1:30pm, back up at 7:30pm. I've been out of cycle since January (knock on wood) so the beast is asleep for me, for now ... http://bestsmileys.com/sleeping/13.gif

Title: Re: Insomnia after CH???
Post by mynm156 on Mar 16^th, 2007, 12:37am

I have noticed latley that I have had this after my night hits.

Title: Re: Insomnia after CH???
Post by Maffumatt on Mar 16^th, 2007, 12:17pm

The way it was explained to me is that the pain of a CH attack is so great that your body produces endorphins and adrenaline to help you get through it. After the hit is over it takes awhile for these chemicals to leave your system.

Title: Re: Insomnia after CH???
Post by ClusterChuck on Mar 16^th, 2007, 4:17pm

Quote:

Main Entry:

Pronunciation:
\ˈslēp\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English slepe, from Old English slǣp; akin to Old High German slāf sleep and perhaps to Latin labi to slip, slide
Date:
before 12th century

1: the natural periodic suspension of consciousness during which the powers of the body are restored — compare REM sleep, slow-wave sleep

Oh, yeah, NOW I remember what sleep is .... Had to look it up ...

Being chronic, I don't get the chance to find that out, but back when I was chronic, I never experienced it, but then again, I was never regular, in when I got hit.

Chuck

Title: Re: Insomnia after CH???
Post by Rosybabe on Mar 16^th, 2007, 6:11pm

well I just had a full 6 hrs of sleep last night but I woke up with a shadow of maybe K3 or 4 and can't make it go away!!!
what a revenge of the monster!!!!

Title: Re: Insomnia after CH???
Post by Gator on Mar 21^st, 2007, 4:40am

Insomnia? Me? Never.

Huh? What am I doing up at 3:30 in the morning?

Uhhhh, sleep surfing? :-/ :P

Title: Re: Insomnia after CH???
Post by ClusterChuck on Mar 21^st, 2007, 5:34am

on 03/21/07 at 04:40:19, Gator wrote:

Insomnia? Me? Never.

Huh? What am I doing up at 3:30 in the morning?

Uhhhh, sleep surfing? :-/ :P

Only perverts are up this time of morning ... BUT I am not a pervert, I am just finding out which ones of y'all are ... That is why I am up now ...

Ghost, get rid of that porn, that you are looking at !!!!

Chuck

Title: Re: Insomnia after CH???
Post by Bob_Johnson on Mar 21^st, 2007, 10:13am

Insomnia is not associated with CH but, in the trade, we talk about "anticipatory anxiety". This means we have learned to associate or link some event/condition with an anxiety response. (People who fear the dentist understand this one!) So, as we approach the time/event anxiety is triggered even though nothing has happened yet.

If you are like many of us and feel tired after an attack, try some self-talk: "Attack has passed. I know, from previous experience, that I tend to feel worn out /tired. I'll go with that feeling and it will help me drop off."

Not an easy or quick little trick but you can re-condition yourself out of the anxiety, i.e., tension producing response.

Title: Re: Insomnia after CH???
Post by Rosybabe on Mar 21^st, 2007, 11:15am

now, i not only had to deal with insomnia but with shadows all day long!!

lack of energy..nausea...you name it!

hope this goes away soon...very soon!