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(Message started by: artonio7 on Feb 23^rd, 2007, 9:23pm)

Title: CH and Libido
Post by artonio7 on Feb 23^rd, 2007, 9:23pm

Does anyone have problems with Libido as a result of CH?

with warm regards,
Tony

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by froggy on Feb 23^rd, 2007, 9:28pm

Oh my God, do you think anyone is really going to fess up? ;)

The only thing that I would think would cause a problem in that department would be a side effect of any given medication.

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by E-Double on Feb 23^rd, 2007, 9:59pm

on 02/23/07 at 21:28:36, froggy wrote:

The only thing that I would think would cause a problem in that department would be a side effect of any given medication.

The libido was high and always has been.
Certain meds F##ked up the fun for a while though.

An interesting note:
Verapamil is being studied as a male contraceptive because it severely effects the mobility of the swimmers.

I wasn't supposed to be able to knock up my wife due to high doses.......guess what??? I got me some super sperm ;;D

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by ClusterChuck on Feb 23^rd, 2007, 10:00pm

That is a VERY hard question to answer, for me.

Yes my libido IS lower. My drive is SO not what it used to be.

But why ?? IS it ch ?? The meds I have taken ?? Is it my age ?? Was it due to my denial of my sexuality ??

I don't know the answers here, sorry Tony ...

All I CAN say, is that I DEFINATELY don't have the drive or stamina that I used to have.

Chuck

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by Brewcrew on Feb 23^rd, 2007, 10:07pm

Any triptan constricts blood vessels. Like anti-Viagra.

Verapamil lowers blood pressure.

2+2=4

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by Gator on Feb 23^rd, 2007, 10:36pm

Well, I'll fess up. :o Getting hit several times a day, every friggin day, the last thing on my mind (most of the time) is sex. It was worse when I was on all the different meds, but I still haven't recovered to nearly where I was before developing this crap. I suppose it's a blessing in disguise since the better half is starting to go through the change. At least I'm not demanding more than she wants to give and making her feel guilty for something she can't control. :-/

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by Skyhawk5 on Feb 23^rd, 2007, 11:46pm

I've had attacks begin during sex several times, which ended that fun. Me and the wife now shy away from sex during cycles. Meds have been a problem too, but we deal with it.

Luckily after 20 years of marriage that's OK. I think?!

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by LeeS on Feb 24^th, 2007, 6:13am

A dodgy hypothalamus?

The hypothalamus, amongst many other things, is known to secrete gonadotrophin releasing-hormone, which may be responsible for the absence of libido in some sufferers.

Here's a good summary for the biologic basis of libido:

http://tinyurl.com/2kkbmt

If that doesn't float your boat you could always try this. Can't vouch for for it of course – just found it whilst surfing ;;D

http://naturomeds.com/herbs.php?id=&product=29

-Lee

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by Redd715 on Feb 24^th, 2007, 11:07am

Hmmmmm

Composition:

Each film coated tablet contains:
Albelmoschus Moschatus extract 10mg

Powders :
Withania somnifera ............. 65mg
Argyreia nervosa ................. 32mg
Mucuna pruriens ................. 32mg
Trivang ............................... 32mg
Shilajit (purified) ................. 32mg
Crocus sativus ...................... 25mg
Strychnos nux vomica ........... 16mg
Makardhwaj ......................... 16mg
Orchis mascula ..................... 16mg
Anacyclus pyrethrum ........... 16mg
Sida cordifolia ....................... 16mg
Bombax ceiba ....................... 16mg
Piper nigrum .......................... 5 mg

Excipients ........................... q.s.

That explains why I feel rather amorous whilst medicating with HBWR.....

I love Google....

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by Sean_C on Feb 24^th, 2007, 11:51am

Ever try shooting pool with a rope? It can't be done ;;D

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by Melissa on Feb 24^th, 2007, 2:18pm

In cycle, I'm not, um, sensual at all. Outside of cycle, only about 3-4 days out of the month am I extremely frisky. :-/

Wish my libido was higher for hubby's sake. :(

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by artonio7 on Feb 24^th, 2007, 3:00pm

Here's a link that is related to testosterone and Headaches.. that a dear friend posted in chat last night http://tinyurl.com/2erox5

Thanks A ;)

with warm regards,
Tony

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by froggy on Feb 24^th, 2007, 8:39pm

How kool of everyone to be so candid. It''s neat to know people like yourselves have similar problems and reactions. The verapamil post hits home over here. That may explain a few things for us.

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by barry_sword on Feb 25^th, 2007, 11:00am

REALLY? It's not because I am 47 years old? [smiley=bow.gif]

Barry [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by froggy on Feb 26^th, 2007, 6:42pm

cute Barry ;)

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by AussieBrian on Feb 26^th, 2007, 7:25pm

Cycle or no cycle, whenever I try it on she gets a headache. Perhaps I'm contagious.

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by Lobster on Feb 27^th, 2007, 2:35am

on 02/23/07 at 23:46:37, Skyhawk5 wrote:

I've had attacks begin during sex several times, which ended that fun.

Heh heh... if I feel one coming on I can finish it out in 30 seconds if need be. ;;D

Pretty much what Gator & Sean & everyone said... when in cycle getting some trim is about the last thing on my mind.

Outside of cycle I am pretty normal... walking horny. If I can catch her I am gonna tap it.

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by cyberone on Feb 27^th, 2007, 1:47pm

well actually before an attack (i get a "taste"in the lest side of my mouth) if the GF is around its all on.....i heard it helps.....but really almost always its too late...lol...
guess we just need more time....

but really anthing at the start to keep the mind a little distracted is good....even if it ends in...well

cyb

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by seasonalboomer on Mar 2^nd, 2007, 9:31am

libido...no difference
amount of time spent obsessing on it....less during cycle

;)

scott

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by taraann on Mar 2^nd, 2007, 9:47am

I am a moody b*tch.....

I go in haha spurts with wanting it..

Is it exhaustion from CH, kids, life, etc? Is it Fibro, is it migraines...etc?

OR

Is it just that I'm a moody b*tch?

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by JeffB on Mar 2^nd, 2007, 12:10pm

Even the crack of dawn hasn't been safe since I was 13. I am always horny, I thought we guys hit our peak at 19-20. I'm 40 now and still hump like a bunny!
Someone show me your boobs! ;;D

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by Brewcrew on Mar 2^nd, 2007, 12:39pm

on 03/02/07 at 12:10:55, JeffB wrote:

Someone show me your boobs! ;;D

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7dc05b3127cce81997a6e65c800000016108Actm7Zu2ZN8

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by JeffB on Mar 2^nd, 2007, 3:00pm

Nice boobs!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by HeadhurtinMama on Mar 2^nd, 2007, 9:10pm

JeffB [smiley=girlflash.gif]

Honestly, my libido has been decreasing since I was 21. How sad is that. Dr tried switching my BC pills around thinking it was related to that. And every year the undiagnosed CH got worse, and so did I. It is a miracle we have two kids! And now with two little boys in the house, even now that I am doing great CH wise, the fibro knocks me on my butt. Now my poor hubby is so used to not getting it, even when I am in the mood, we don't tend to sync?

I keep trying to tell myself that the more you use it, the better it works!

PFDAN!
Bridget

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by TonyYZF on Mar 4^th, 2007, 11:01am

Hi all,

I am 37, male. I have always had a very strong labido. Never did peak out. When I have bad hits I am in too much pain during and too tired after to be interested in sex then. The rest of the time I am interested almost daily, and sometimes twice a day even though I have eternal shadows. When I am taking the meds though I have found erections difficult though the drive is still there. I have even wondered if screwed up chemistry is why my drive is so high...who knows. Good luck.

Tony

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by Redd on Mar 4^th, 2007, 12:28pm

I think there is a huge difference between sex drive (libito) and the actual ability to perform (playing pool with a rope comment).

Simply because one can't perform.. due to erectile issues from medications or fatigue from the CH for both male and female sufferers, doesn't always mean the "drive/desire" isn't there.

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by Paul98 on Mar 4^th, 2007, 1:18pm

on 03/02/07 at 12:10:55, JeffB wrote:

Even the crack of dawn hasn't been safe since I was 13. I am always horny, I thought we guys hit our peak at 19-20. I'm 40 now and still hump like a bunny!
Someone show me your boobs! ;;D

TFF Bro! I was going to say the same thing.

The only thing that had put a damper on the rod was verapamil. It wasn't that I couldn't get it up, it was I had no intrest. Go figure.

-P.

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by oakie on Mar 7^th, 2007, 12:11pm

I'm 51 yrs old and a 30 yr plus suffer of cluster headaches.When i'm in the headache season sex is the last thing on my mind. After the attacks i'm fine and sex is great no problems.

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by clusterwife on Mar 8^th, 2007, 3:04pm

Oh, it gets worse. My hubby gets hit right after lovemaking. So in our home it's like: No honey, I don't want "get" a headache. Something about relaxing triggers it for him. Go figure! Leah.

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by TonyYZF on Mar 11^th, 2007, 11:57am

Interesting that you mentioned the relaxing part. I think I read something about relaxing being a trigger and I believe I have made a correlation with increased shadows for myself with relaxation, like the weekends.

Tony

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by Rosybabe on Mar 11^th, 2007, 3:49pm

yeap, you are right!
relaxation sometimes brings the beast out..
If I'm in cycle, I will get CH if I get "lucky" (that is how my DH calls it) and I'm sure I get CH's on weekends too.
no much fun on those 3 months..

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by carolynp on Mar 27^th, 2007, 1:32am

I can honestly say that since DH;s turned into chronic clusters he has zero libido.

:(

Wonder if I can get the doc to buy into the testosterone study.

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by vig on Mar 27^th, 2007, 10:06am

once the pharmaceuticals wore off, the abilities and desires returned...

oh, to be normal again.

:)

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by JeffB on Mar 27^th, 2007, 1:07pm

on 03/02/07 at 21:10:04, HeadhurtinMama wrote:

Thanks for the flash, lol. I guess I'm not someone who lets the beast tell me how to feel or what to do when in cycle but not in a hit. But I think that I must make up for the pain with pleasure and bumpin uglies is a must.

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by pieface_49 on Mar 27^th, 2007, 8:02pm

I think for some of us testosterone may play a factor. I am a very unfortunate individual who matured early, probably because of testosterone levels being extremely high. I highly question if this is playing a factor in my facial pain. I am not bragging, this is my reality. I wish it could have been different, but it is not. My younger years were consumed with sex and I mean totally consumed. At 49, while not in cycle, orgasm at least once a day is norm. Two to three, possibly four is possible. During cycle my hormones (perhaps this is the wrong word?) are all messed. I brought up in another post I am very straightforward during cycle. In fact, detrimental to myself. I know what is going on. My system is releasing unusual amounts of something. What? I do not know. I do know my histamine levels are extremely high. About six hours after a hit I am extremely alert and intelligent. Today at work was an example. I think people are surprised to see how quickly I can analyze and solve their issues. I saw it first hand today. Analyzing and solving issues is normal for me, but to do it bang, bang, bang is not. I honestly think blood tests and urine analysis might show why. The friggin stupid Doctors have in 4 years have ordered neither. Why is beyond me? I never associated libido with sex drive, but Wikepdia says it is so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libido

Pie

Title: Re: CH and Libido
Post by ndshrubs on Apr 2^nd, 2007, 8:06pm

Like several others... CH doesn't seem to effect my libido; however, I'll have an attack immediately after sex about 50% of the time while in cycle. Usually, those are particularly severe headaches.

-S