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(Message started by: swimchica623 on Jan 4^th, 2007, 11:47am)

Title: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by swimchica623 on Jan 4^th, 2007, 11:47am

Okay I may be crazy because sometimes when I have to pluck my eyebrows one side seems to need it more than the other, but I was just doing some maintenence last night and noticed there was a lot more to be plucked on my left side (I'm an episodic lefty just out of cycle) than the right. I got to the right side and realized that that side was fine, I plucked like 2 hairs and I was done.
Has anyone noticed this before or is this just a strange coincidence?? (and the weirdest question ever posed here!!!)
Lisa ::)

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by brewcrew on Jan 4^th, 2007, 12:00pm

I can only conclude that you have recently gotten in touch with your inner cro-magnon man. ;;D

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by vietvet2tours on Jan 4^th, 2007, 12:03pm

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g91/dawnofanewday/0011hc6g.gif

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by swimchica623 on Jan 4^th, 2007, 12:14pm

hahahahahahahhaha okaaaaaaaay i was just cuuuuuriousssss!!!!!!!!!!!!! hang on there though this post has only been up for a little. ;)

ooh and it looks like im no longer a newbie yaaay!

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by chewy on Jan 4^th, 2007, 12:56pm

The bullshit meter doesn't go high enough for this one.

Yahoo chat is a good place to play.

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by vietvet2tours on Jan 4^th, 2007, 1:07pm

on 01/04/07 at 12:56:45, chewy wrote:

The bullshit meter doesn't go high enough for this one.

Yahoo chat is a good place to play.

Perfect

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by LeeS on Jan 4^th, 2007, 1:28pm

Nah, I like it.

It's all to do with ipsilateral testerosterone build-up due to a malfunctioning hypothalamus, or more particularly the suprachiasmatic nucleus. You should see my right pit if you think I'm kidding.

In the interest of pathophysiology Swim, is your Brazilian also wonky?

-Lee

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by Sandy_C on Jan 4^th, 2007, 1:34pm

on 01/04/07 at 11:47:47, swimchica623 wrote:

Okay I may be crazy
Has anyone noticed this before or is this just a strange coincidence?? (and the weirdest question ever posed here!!!)
Lisa ::)

Hi Lisa, congrats on becoming a Junior.

Yup! That IS one of the weirdest questions ever posted here. But, when I was a newbie, I was told that the only stupid question is the one you didn't ask. This one pushes the envelope just a tad though.

To answer your question, I have never noticed a correlation between hair growth on the CH side anywhere, eyebrow, head, noplace. But, I'm 60 years old and my first ever CH was at the ripe age of 53. By that time, my hair had stopped growing just about everywhere - no plucking or shaving needed. If your correlation was true, I should be getting get my CH hits on my upper lip! That's the only place that IS growing hair!
:-/ ;;D

Sandy

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by swimchica623 on Jan 4^th, 2007, 2:10pm

on 01/04/07 at 13:28:10, LeeS wrote:

Okay Lee so you are saying I'm not totally out there? I just thought I'd pose the question...just to see....
And I have no clue what you mean by is my Brazilian also wonky, sorry.

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by vietvet2tours on Jan 4^th, 2007, 2:17pm

on 01/04/07 at 14:10:20, swimchica623 wrote:

Okay Lee so you are saying I'm not totally out there? I just thought I'd pose the question...just to see....
And I have no clue what you mean by is my Brazilian also wonky, sorry.

Look down and think hot wax.Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 4^th, 2007, 2:47pm

I'm too inexperienced with eyebrows to have a fit enough answer for this question.

But you've got me wondering... belly-button hair to the left and right side of it??? I could provide a perhaps detailed enough answer that's been comtemplated for your curiosity but when I've tried, the area measured and marked off in magic marker keeps washing off and I've no visual left/right recorded number to compare with from before clusters to coincide with your eyebrow experience to question it being cluster-related.

on 01/04/07 at 12:14:11, swimchica623 wrote:

hang on there though this post has only been up for a little. ;)

I'll stay tuned.

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by pubgirl on Jan 4^th, 2007, 3:09pm

Sorry to blow your theory Lisa but I have the opposite problem, pluck more on the non pain side.

and LeeS is a bad and rude man and he knows it so take no notice of him (or insult him, he likes it ;;D)

W

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by Jonny on Jan 4^th, 2007, 3:59pm

on 01/04/07 at 14:10:20, swimchica623 wrote:

And I have no clue what you mean by is my Brazilian also wonky, sorry.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/littleloadman/huge-hairy-bush.jpg

Start plucking...your way overdue....LMMFAO ;;D

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by swimchica623 on Jan 4^th, 2007, 4:31pm

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha hilarious picture. noooooooooo my brazilian is not....also...wonky??? doesn't generally become a problem for swimmers, we learn at a young age ;;D

sorry lee for not reading your sarcasm at least i know i humored yall today. and inspired some beeeeeeautiful artwork to come to the boards. ;;D

-the retarded one

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by Yorky on Jan 4^th, 2007, 5:49pm

on 01/04/07 at 15:59:08, Jonny wrote:

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/littleloadman/huge-hairy-bush.jpg

Start plucking...your way overdue....LMMFAO ;;D

yea your right swimchic, there doe's seem to be less hair on your left eyebrow. ;;D

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by Dazed and confused on Jan 4^th, 2007, 5:53pm

For what it's worth I have a grotesque amount of hair on the CH side eyebrow.

Peace
Trev

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by Bob P on Jan 4^th, 2007, 7:02pm

Quote:

I'm 60 years old and my first ever CH was at the ripe age of 53. By that time, my hair had stopped growing just about everywhere - no plucking or shaving needed. If your correlation was true, I should be getting get my CH hits on my upper lip! That's the only place that IS growing hair!

Another of my hypothesis confirmed!

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by floridian on Jan 4^th, 2007, 8:04pm

I don't see any differences in the mirror - I have a symmetrical unibrow. Inflammation and mast cells are higher on the affected side, one eyelid sometimes droops or twitches. If the innervation and blood flow is different, that might affect hair growth for some people?

8)

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by Chrisjg23 on Jan 6^th, 2007, 7:09pm

After seeing that picture....I'm going to throw up in my mouth!

ahhaha :D

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by LeeS on Jan 8^th, 2007, 1:10pm

Apologies for the initial flippancy Swim; and even more apologies for Jonny posting those pictures of my wife!

I believe it is always useful to share hypotheses with others here, no matter how bizarre or ludicrous they may seem. Hirsuteness has been studied in relationship to CH ever since it was first established that there tend to be higher levels of testosterone in male sufferers during attacks. Indeed, this was one of the first indicators which suggested that the hypothalamus may be responsible for our disease; together with other alterations in the natural production of a variety of hormones/chemicals that affect the biologic clock.

Other historical reports harked on about the distinctive "clusterhead face" being described as leonine, with multi-furrowed and thickened skin, prominent folds, a broad chin, vertical forehead creases, and nasal telangiectasias; and people affected by CH are often tall and rugged-looking! Much of this has been poo-pooed here over the years, but I know of quite a few female sufferers who closely fit the bill (no doubt they'll respond accordingly).

However, I believe the relationship between body asymmetry and primary headache may warrant further investigation. It has recently been mooted, for example, that body asymmetry may correlate with gender-differentiated behaviour. I recently read about a neuropsychologist (Doreen Kimura – have a look at wikipedia – now she has definitely got a clusterhead face!) who claims that men with larger right testicles and women with larger right breasts tend to exhibit more typically masculine behaviour; whereas men with larger left testicles and women with larger left breasts tend to exhibit more typical female behaviour! ($10 to anyone - even Jonny - who doesn't now have a sneaky peek!)

Hormones are also likely to be key in this respect, namely variations in androgens and oestrogens, so I don't think your idea is as wacky as others may think.

Keep battling and all the best with it.

-Lee

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by pubgirl on Jan 8^th, 2007, 4:40pm

Now THAT makes sense Lee 8)
Apology is very pretty, prettier than your wife who still astounds me ;;D.

Far more to the hormone relationship with CH than is usually accepted (I think this as you know)

W

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by BarbaraD on Jan 9^th, 2007, 6:13am

Swim,

Have never noticed more hair on the left eyebrow, but my left eyebrow "sweats" profusely. And apparently gets hot cause when I put on sunglasses the left lense fogs up.

We all have a lot of strange symptoms and we're all looking for what causes these tings, but so far.......

Go ahead and ask your questions and if these silly boys mess with you, I'll take them out behind the barn and give them what for.

Hugs BD

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by LeeS on Jan 9^th, 2007, 9:39am

on 01/08/07 at 13:10:36, LeeS wrote:

I know of quite a few female sufferers who closely fit the bill (no doubt they'll respond accordingly).

A little fewer than I expected, but Limey is still ill :D ;)

-Lee

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by Margi on Jan 9^th, 2007, 12:23pm

ok, I've waited 24 hours and no one has yet bitten.

So, Lee - tell us - are you a lefty or a righty? [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by LeeS on Jan 9^th, 2007, 12:28pm

Tatties or bollox? ;;D

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by Margi on Jan 9^th, 2007, 12:31pm

whichever you prefer to answer, but I'm thinking I've already surmised the latter. :P

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by LeeS on Jan 9^th, 2007, 12:35pm

My left is leonine and my right is multi-furrowed coupled with thickened skin and prominent folds.

How about you? :D

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by Margi on Jan 9^th, 2007, 12:44pm

Well I certainly hope you are describing the latter because that description of the former actually activates my gag reflex.

Perfectly symmetrical here, thank you. Like Julie Andrews.

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by LeeS on Jan 9^th, 2007, 1:18pm

on 01/09/07 at 12:44:06, Margi wrote:

Like Julie Andrews.

I do too; but probably not in the same way :P

Love to you and yours.

P :-*

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by Margi on Jan 9^th, 2007, 1:47pm

no, bonehead, I didn't mean I LIKE Julie Andrews, I meant I AM like Julie Andrews. She is one of the few people in recorded history who has perfect symmetry to her face - eyes equally level, nose the right distance from her top lip, ears at the same level, etc. Didn't you know that? Where you been?

OK, I'm probably not like her at all, just trying to illustrate a point and I do like her. She does have spectacular breasts I guess.

And...right back atcha, babycakes.

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by peacestock on Jan 9^th, 2007, 2:50pm

My eyebrows are positioned differently.

Hmmm...I think you are on to something here with the eyebrow theory. I think someone should get a grant from the government to do further research into this area. We wouldn't even need a laboratory; just some tweezers and someone will to count eyebrow hair.

It's all in the eyebrows...

Peacestock

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by wam on Jan 14^th, 2007, 11:32pm

Hey!!!who put that picture of my wife up!!!!!!!!!!! >:(

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by brewcrew on Jan 17^th, 2007, 2:57pm

on 01/09/07 at 14:50:45, peacestock wrote:

...I think someone should get a grant from the government to do further research into this area.

I think someone should find some private sector money to do further research into this area.

If there's money to be made, somebody will put up the cash.

Title: Re: eyebrows....possibly for the ladies
Post by ghostwriter on Jan 20^th, 2007, 5:35am

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