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(Message started by: ax on Dec 7th, 2006, 4:00am)

Title: Survey smells
Post by ax on Dec 7th, 2006, 4:00am
Do you have any smells that trigger your CH?
What are they?

Perfume and farts ;;D trigger me  - seriously

Sense of smell...

Airborne chemicals interact with both first and fifth cranial nerve receptors; with cranial nerve I the result is aroma, with cranial nerve V the result can be irritation and discomfort in subjects predisposed in unknown ways. The irritant reflex from somatic sensory nerves results in neurogenic inflammation, which can mimic the nflammatory response of atopic allergy

source- http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1317054

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This is the only part of the brain that projects into the atmosphere.

this is talking about the sense of smell

source- http://www.senseofsmell.org/feature/smell101/lesson1/01.php

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your sense of smell doesn't sleep. The only sense that keeps guard while you are asleep.

source- http://www.cf.ac.uk/biosi/staff/jacob/teaching/sensory/olfact1.html

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Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by chopmyheadoff on Dec 7th, 2006, 6:00am
interesting stuff !!

i cant believe farts trigger you !! thats funny lol
(well it would be if it was anything except cluster)

i guess im lucky, no smells trigger me  :)

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by georgej on Dec 7th, 2006, 9:50am
No scent triggers, but the sense of smell is interesting.

If you haven't yet read Diane Ackerman's book, "A Natural History of the Senses", do so if you get a chance.  It has a very readable and interesting section on the sense of smell.  

Best,

George

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by Giovanni on Dec 7th, 2006, 10:59am
Strong Perfume, solvents (paint thinners, etc.), gasoline.

John

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by stpp77 on Dec 7th, 2006, 12:17pm
Smells don't trigger mine either. Some definently turn my stomach, but not to bring on an attack...Interesting article!

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by Giuliano on Dec 7th, 2006, 12:24pm
Thinner,paints...but just in cluster time

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by Redd715 on Dec 7th, 2006, 1:39pm
Concentrated pertolium smells (shoe and boot waterproofing spray) Pine Sol...Asphalt (road construction)  Some stong perfumes/colognes.  Oven cleaner.

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by Guiseppi on Dec 7th, 2006, 2:38pm
I guess I'm lucky there, smells don't trigger me!

Guiseppi

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by kcopelin on Dec 7th, 2006, 2:41pm
Thank God farts don't trigger...I live with two male people who have, yes, farting contests.  OMG I would not be here now....
diesel, gasoline, nail polish remover-don't exactly trigger but I react strongly to them and, oh okay, guess they do trigger-also really sweet perfumes or after shaves.

But not farts.

However, perhaps this would be a good strategy for me to end the flatulence wars..."you guys have to stop this insanity-it's triggering headaches"  Hmmmm...
gonna give it a try.....
Thanks
PFDAN y'all,
kathy

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by Linda_Howell on Dec 7th, 2006, 2:45pm

 I never thought smells triggered me until I went to a BBQ at my brothers house last summer and he had lit a lot of those citronella candles around the table to keep bugs away.  I no sooner sat down, took a few breaths and wham-bam..I got hit hard and so fast that I knew it wasn't just a regular hit that I would have gotten regardless.


Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by kcopelin on Dec 7th, 2006, 2:48pm
What about farts, Linda?

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by ax on Dec 8th, 2006, 2:01am
Thanks all for the input.

For me it's not only the smells, but while I'm in a headache I have to avoid breathing through my nose to stay of kip10.

I guess triggers are an indivilual thing and have not much to do with the headache itself.

Interesting to see those with smell triggers leans toward the alcohol / volatile chemicals. -
- oh and hydrogen-sulfide-nitrogen rich 'gas' ;;D

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by kcopelin on Dec 8th, 2006, 11:05am
I announced to my husband and son last night that the farting contests must stop as they may trigger headaches.  After 15 minutes, when they could both speak again after rolling on the floor, laughing hysterically, they both in unison asked "What about belching?"
Help me...I am surrounded by aliens....
PFDAN y'all
kathy

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by mathieulives on Dec 8th, 2006, 2:01pm
Yeupp!! Just tried to start a topic on this. PERFUME!!! and heavy lotion smells, really "girly" smells or strong colognes, any type of house airspray, disinfectant, or cleaning solution!!  >:(

I can control what I eat and drink, but how in the world can I get around these????    :-/

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by mathieulives on Dec 8th, 2006, 2:04pm

on 12/08/06 at 11:05:25, kcopelin wrote:
I announced to my husband and son last night that the farting contests must stop as they may trigger headaches.  After 15 minutes, when they could both speak again after rolling on the floor, laughing hysterically, they both in unison asked "What about belching?"
Help me...I am surrounded by aliens....
PFDAN y'all
kathy

I'm sorry they are not taking it more seriously.

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by cluster_jim on Dec 8th, 2006, 7:21pm
solvents do it for me. not much else that i can up with.

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by Jonny on Dec 8th, 2006, 7:30pm
No triggers what so ever!

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by chopmyheadoff on Dec 9th, 2006, 6:39am

on 12/08/06 at 11:05:25, kcopelin wrote:
I announced to my husband and son last night that the farting contests must stop as they may trigger headaches.  After 15 minutes, when they could both speak again after rolling on the floor, laughing hysterically, they both in unison asked "What about belching?"
Help me...I am surrounded by aliens....
PFDAN y'all
kathy



pmsl  ;;D

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by BobG on Dec 9th, 2006, 7:39pm
The perfume aisles in department stores and the soap-detergent aisles in the supermarket are places I can't stay in for more than about 60 seconds before "that feeling" starts.
Oh yeah, any place where one of those stink-butt flavor candles is burning.

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by BarbaraD on Dec 10th, 2006, 6:16am
Smoke is about the only smell that triggers mine that I know of and I'm not sure if that's a smell or not, but I can't be around when someone's burning things. Even smoke from chimney's give me a shadow.


Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by tanner on Dec 10th, 2006, 8:05am
Wouldn't know :(

There are some I dont like tho......

Why is it that everyone else's farts smell awful, but mine are totally non offensive....honest

or am I just nuts from sleep, sex and granddaughter deprivation?

....... :-[.....Tim....I just said fart...KathyC made me do it :o

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by TonyG1 on Dec 15th, 2006, 8:45am
No smell triggers... but my sense of smell becomes bloodhound like during a cycle...

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by MorDog on Dec 15th, 2006, 5:09pm
Some colognes and perfumes trigger one for me but I have to smell them for a bit of time.  Someone just passing wearing too much wont do it.  I usually wear no cologne whatsoever while in cycle.

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by taraann on Dec 15th, 2006, 5:33pm
When episodic bleach and strong perfume triggered me everytime without a doubt........... I esp hated giving up bleach cause I LOVED the smell of a nice bleach cleaned house.  I actually have taken a chance a few times this past year and tried cleaning with bleach again and it wasn't a trigger at all so far ... don't know if it's cause I've been chronic for a while or just coincidence.  Some strong perfumes still give me a shadow...which sometimes develops into a full ch and sometimes not.

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by JeffB on Dec 15th, 2006, 7:46pm
When I'm in a cycle the beast comes like clock work. But stuff like beer and wine really do me in as far as pain goes.

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by burnt-toast on Dec 16th, 2006, 9:38am
Paint, thinners and Polyurathane can sometimes bring attacks on very fast - sometimes they have no effect.

The nightmare seems to have moods.

Tom  

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by E-Double on Dec 16th, 2006, 10:06am
I don't like the smell of my 6 month old's new poops now that she is on solids.

But I guess you were looking for triggers.

I don't have any.

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by Richr8 on Dec 16th, 2006, 12:59pm

on 12/16/06 at 10:06:06, E-Double wrote:
new poops now that she is on solids.


and prior to that was okay?   :o

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by georgej on Dec 16th, 2006, 1:07pm

on 12/16/06 at 12:59:34, Richr8 wrote:
and prior to that was okay?   :o


I think it's the transition from offensive to horrid.  I remember that.

Best,

George

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by bowles96 on Dec 29th, 2006, 2:06am
Most of my Ch's are triggered by smells, worse being diesel fuel (instant trigger) Also strong perfumes only take a few seconds. Other smells,

Scented Candles
Air Freshners
Certian Foods being prepared
Crap you light to keep bugs away
Burning Rubber (like at a race track)
Racing Fuel
Bus Fumes
Paint
Concret Sealer
Smell of large group of animals e.g. circus/zoo

And to top it off I work with the general public at a civic center, life can be a bitch!
P.B.

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by B14CK5H33P on Dec 29th, 2006, 6:59am
Back when I laid carpet, any time we did a glue tackdown job... the glue would throw me into a cluster everytime. My boss would actually see it in my eye and yell to me to go sit in the van.

Also, if I am in an enclosed area with too strong of incense burning, that'll throw me into one. If farts were a trigger for me, I'd be up shit creek without a paddle!

Only other triggers are Brandy, Sleep, lack of sleep and major stress.

Peace,
Carl D

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by mikezz on Jan 10th, 2007, 10:26pm
smoke, cig or otherwise, perfumes, camp fires,being behind a school bus, microwave pop corn, cigars(theworse), candles burning, too long is some stores, a candle store
Farting while i have a HA lowers KIP to a 9

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by georgej on Jan 11th, 2007, 12:38am

on 01/10/07 at 22:26:25, mikezz wrote:
Farting while i have a HA lowers KIP to a 9


Goat?  Where are you, dude?

[smiley=laugh.gif]

Best,

George

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by ctygrl1965 on Jan 11th, 2007, 9:17am
Nail polish is my husbands trigger. If I want to do my nails, I have to go into the guest bathroom, turn the vent on and warn him not to go in. During his cycle he has to stay away from Hobby Lobby as well

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by miker6565 on Jan 15th, 2007, 9:08pm
i second the fingernail polish!!!
anything laquer does me in
and this christmas my mom had this scented oil (pine sent) the one that plugs in the outlet, set one off
deisel fumes

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by drivin_blind on Jan 16th, 2007, 10:46am
Perfume's (I call them "fat lady perfume") That carpet fresh crap my wife loves to sprinkle all over, and probably the worst, car exhaust. Used to get car sick when I was a kid, then we'd get caught up in traffic jams (this was prior to freeways) and with no air conditioning and the windows down, I'd end up smelling car exhaust. Didn't know anything about clusters back then. All I wanted to do was die. I was probably 6 or 7 years old.  Dick

Title: Re: Survey smells
Post by Sandy_C on Jan 16th, 2007, 12:46pm
When in cycle -
Perfumes - any kind.  
Incense burning
Scented candles

Even out of cycle, I avoid the perfume department in stores, candle shops, any place that is burning any kind of scented stuff.  It won't trigger a CH unless I'm in cycle, but it will trigger a headache every time.



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