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(Message started by: theimage on Nov 18th, 2006, 2:51pm)
Title: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by theimage on Nov 18th, 2006, 2:51pm
CH's and tiredness seem to co-exist together although who knows which causes which.

Coffee, caffeine and energy drinks can abort CH's.

Afternoon naps can trigger CH's.

It seems that there's a definate connection between sleep and CH's. Who knows, maybe that's where the great mystery of what causes CH lies. Maybe one day they'll find out. There seem to be lots of clues there for any doctor who can be bothered.
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by jon019 on Nov 18th, 2006, 3:05pm
Hypothalamus, brother, hypothalamus.
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by theimage on Nov 18th, 2006, 3:08pm
What????????????????
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by thebbz on Nov 18th, 2006, 3:11pm
http://www.miqel.com/clusterheadaches/clusterheadaches.html
The answers to alot of  your questions are here.
;;D
There is more keep asking questions.
all the best
jb
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by UN-solved on Nov 18th, 2006, 3:19pm
Sleep is my enemy  >:(

UNsolved

REM sleep stage has a direct connection with CH attacks, as it triggers an attack for many.

Also, many of us have sleep apnea, which reduces the amount of O2 to the brain when the O2 saturation levels fall.

PS.

1 Hypothalamus for sale. Slightly damaged but hardly ever used.  ::)
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by Giovanni on Nov 18th, 2006, 3:23pm

on 11/18/06 at 14:51:14, theimage wrote:
CH's and tiredness seem to co-exist together although who knows which causes which.

Coffee, caffeine and energy drinks can abort CH's.

Afternoon naps can trigger CH's.

It seems that there's a definate connection between sleep and CH's. Who knows, maybe that's where the great mystery of what causes CH lies. Maybe one day they'll find out. There seem to be lots of clues there for any doctor who can be bothered.


Maybe bad hypothalamus, but decrease in breathing/oxygen rate during sleep a definite factor IMO.

John
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by BarbaraD on Nov 18th, 2006, 5:19pm
Try some melatonin (9-15mg) before bedtime. This will get you thru the REM sleep (most of the time). Keeps down the exhaustion.

Hugs BD
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 18th, 2006, 5:48pm


  We who have cluster headaches have a DEFORMED hypothalmus.

   Now go read the link that bbz provided.   ;;D
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by The Image on Nov 18th, 2006, 7:23pm
A very interesting link. Definately written by someone who's been through it.
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by Giovanni on Nov 18th, 2006, 8:23pm

on 11/18/06 at 17:48:17, Linda_Howell wrote:
  We who have cluster headaches have a DEFORMED hypothalmus.

   Now go read the link that bbz provided.   ;;D


I often wonder why mine became deformed at age 47 and not sooner?

I'll tell you what------it's been making up for lost time.

;;D

John
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by BobG on Nov 18th, 2006, 8:32pm
Hypothalmus controls seratonin (sp?). It kicks in during REM sleep.
Broken Hypothalmus=busted brain chemicals=cluster headache.
Welcome to the board Image.
Stay stressed. Never relax. Never sleep. Ever.
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by Sean_C on Nov 18th, 2006, 10:37pm

on 11/18/06 at 20:32:30, BobG wrote:
Stay stressed. Never relax. Never sleep. Ever.


Words to live by ;)

Sean.........................................
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by Sean_C on Nov 18th, 2006, 10:42pm

on 11/18/06 at 20:23:01, Giovanni wrote:
I often wonder why mine became deformed at age 47 and not sooner?


Don't knock it  ;;D

Mine began at 13. I assume its due to a hormone change, but I could be way off base.

Sean...................................
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by LeLimey on Nov 19th, 2006, 7:28am
Giovanni 37, me 37 (diagnosed) Sean 13, Jasper 3.
How the hell do we find anything common in that?!
My personal belief is something triggers it as for coeliac diasease, diabetes and so on. I think CH is something that lies dormant until something kicks it off.
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by The Image on Nov 19th, 2006, 7:38am
One common thing though is once it starts, you're stuck with it.  ::)
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by Sean_C on Nov 19th, 2006, 7:46am

on 11/19/06 at 07:28:36, LeLimey wrote:
I think CH is something that lies dormant until something kicks it off.


Hormone poison maybe  ;;D
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by chewy on Nov 19th, 2006, 8:23am

Quote:
Mine began at 13. I assume its due to a hormone change


You should have your hormones changed at regular intervals.

Better milage.
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by Sean_C on Nov 19th, 2006, 8:26am
LMAO  ;;D ;;D I'm about ready for my histerectomy ;;D ;;D
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by E-Double on Nov 19th, 2006, 8:27am

on 11/19/06 at 08:26:06, Sean_C wrote:
LMAO  ;;D ;;D I'm about ready for my histerectomy ;;D ;;D


I was considering that as well if I get fed up with being med-free. I don't want to go back on meds but know that I certainly can live a full life without a uterus ;;D
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by Sean_C on Nov 19th, 2006, 8:29am
I hear ya E, my child bearing days are long gone. Its time to start enjoying life  ;;D ;;D
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by Carl_D on Nov 19th, 2006, 8:33am
What is this thing called sleep and why can't I get any?

:-/

Fuckinghypomathalamathingy!!!
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by brewcrew on Nov 19th, 2006, 11:22am

on 11/19/06 at 08:27:28, E-Double wrote:
I don't want to go back on meds but know that I certainly can live a full life without a uterus ;;D

Except that you will never be able to find things that are lost. A uterus is mandatory for that. It works on the same principle as a homing device. And just because a woman has her uterus removed doesn't mean she loses her ability to find things. It's in the DNA. Hence, transgender "women" still need a real woman to help find things.

This is all true. My wife told me so. Now where did I put my goddamned keys?
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by Giovanni on Nov 19th, 2006, 12:09pm

on 11/19/06 at 08:26:06, Sean_C wrote:
LMAO  ;;D ;;D I'm about ready for my histerectomy ;;D ;;D


I shouldn't need one..........don't have any hormones left ::)
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by BB on Nov 19th, 2006, 6:45pm


Dont suggest it guys or Doc Alibaba Sultanas will be in here next advertising hysterectomy as a cure for all headaches soon  ::)

Sheesh, that would mean he would need to print out a new certificate and redrawing the pwetty wibbons all over again.....  ;;D


Annette
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by chewy on Nov 19th, 2006, 7:36pm
No histerectomy for me thanks. Might effect my sex dive and desires and I am enjoying my life as a lesbian.
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by chopmyheadoff on Nov 20th, 2006, 6:40am

on 11/19/06 at 18:45:53, BB wrote:
Dont suggest it guys or Doc Alibaba Sultanas will be in here next advertising hysterectomy as a cure for all headaches soon  ::)

Sheesh, that would mean he would need to print out a new certificate and redrawing the pwetty wibbons all over again.....  ;;D


Annette


pmsl
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by mynm156 on Nov 20th, 2006, 9:05am
I do not thinck that DEFORMED hypothalamus.  is really correct.  I think that Malfuctioning is better occording to my MRI's there are no abnormalities visible. I believetat that might be the case with a lot of us.  They have been several correlations found by us and others they say mostly men, mostly smokers, drinkers, sleep apnea, A type personality, etc.etc. The list goes on and on I say its Dairy Products!!  Think of it WE ALL HAVE USED DAIRY PRODUCTS!!!!  (c-what I mean?)  Cud B Anything

GOOD VIBES and PFDA

MYNM156
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by UN-solved on Nov 20th, 2006, 9:59am

on 11/20/06 at 09:05:01, mynm156 wrote:
there are no abnormalities visible.


They say that clusterheads have more grey matter in the brain than non-clusterheads ... so there are visible differences. Cluster attacks can be seen by using a PET scan and are much different than any other type headache.

UNsolved
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by kayarr on Nov 20th, 2006, 10:47am

on 11/19/06 at 11:22:29, brewcrew wrote:
Except that you will never be able to find things that are lost. A uterus is mandatory for that. It works on the same principle as a homing device. And just because a woman has her uterus removed doesn't mean she loses her ability to find things. It's in the DNA. Hence, transgender "women" still need a real woman to help find things.

This is all true. My wife told me so. Now where did I put my goddamned keys?


"They are in the pocket of that coat you wore last Yesterday to the dump!"

(all w/o the help of a uterus or ovaries:)
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by BarbaraD on Nov 20th, 2006, 11:19am
You GUYS are NUTZ

LMAO
Title: Re: Sleep Info holds the great answer
Post by LeLimey on Nov 20th, 2006, 11:20am
There you go... the commonality for ch'ers finally cracked.. and by a TEXAN too  ;;D

Why am I not surprised?!


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