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(Message started by: joboofish on Oct 29^th, 2006, 10:34pm)

Title: question about daylight savings
Post by joboofish on Oct 29^th, 2006, 10:34pm

I have a quick question. In my current cycle, I have been getting one of my attacks at 9:00 at night. Does this mean now with the time change it should have happened at 8:00? Am I in the clear with this attack? I know I shouldn't get my hopes up but it is so hard not to. Thanks for reading.

Title: Re: question about daylight savings
Post by Linda_Howell on Oct 29^th, 2006, 11:04pm

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Title: Re: question about daylight savings
Post by BB on Oct 29^th, 2006, 11:06pm

The timing of your attack has to do with the biological circadian clock inside your brain, namely your hypothalamus, I dont think man made clock time change has any influence on it.

Annette

Title: Re: question about daylight savings
Post by pattik on Oct 30^th, 2006, 5:20pm

on 10/29/06 at 23:06:23, BB wrote:

I dont think man made clock time change has any influence on it.

Annette

Hold on there, BB. ::) To actually ANSWER joboofish's question, there is every reason to believe that the 9:00 hits will, for a time being become 8:00 hits. That doesn't mean they will disappear. As your habits adjust to the new time, so will your potential for the 9:00 hits to return.
patk

Title: Re: question about daylight savings
Post by BB on Oct 30^th, 2006, 6:38pm

on 10/30/06 at 17:20:46, pattik wrote:

That doesn't mean they will disappear.

patk

To clarify, that was exactly what I meant, just because we lose an hour in the day due to daylight saving, it doesnt mean the hypothalamus will " forget" a hit at a certain time.

It will tend to readjust then starts all over again.

I have heard of people, including my husband, not going to bed to try to avoid an attack , it seems that all that does is delay the attack to a later time.

No one yet , as far as I know , been able to "get rid " of attacks just by changing the timetable of their daily activities.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, thank you very much.

PFDAN to all.

Annette

Title: Re: question about daylight savings
Post by purpleydog on Oct 30^th, 2006, 7:30pm

jobo, my hits always changed time when daylight savings came around, but they would eventually work themselves back to the "normal" time. You have a valid question, and I wondered about it too, until I found out how it was for me.

Welcome to the board, and feel free to ask any questions you may have!

Title: Re: question about daylight savings
Post by E-Double on Oct 30^th, 2006, 7:39pm

on 10/30/06 at 19:30:32, purpleydog wrote:

mine too!!
It's funny how when I travel across time zones, I will just get them earlier or later according to the adjusted time yet they remained the same according to eastern standard time ;)

Title: Re: question about daylight savings
Post by Turts on Oct 31^st, 2006, 3:23pm

i noticed a slight shift in times myself, but not smart enough to link it with daylight savings.

not sure if they are related???
[smiley=huh.gif]
Turts

Title: Re: question about daylight savings
Post by AlienSpaceGuy on Nov 2^nd, 2006, 11:31am

Quote:

The timing of your attack has to do with the biological circadian clock inside your brain, namely your hypothalamus, I dont think man made clock time change has any influence on it.

A case where the student went to the movies instead of attending lectures?

The term "circadian" is derived from the Latin and means "about daily". About a dozen neuro-transmitters are enhancing and impeding each other, leading to an oscillation with a period length of about a day (ciradian). (Chemical oscillators are notorious for their poor frequency stability.) For most people the period of the free running oscillator is about 25 - 26 hours.

However, this free running period can only be observed by people who sojourn in am absolutely uniform environment. As an example, in a group of speleologists the point where the individuals think it's time to eat, sleep, etc. tend to drift apart, for each according to the period of his now free running internal clock.

But this ciradian clock if forced to an exactly daily rhythm by external influences. For plants and non-human animals it is the changing daylight. For us humans it is more the rhythm forced on us by the time we have to get up, go to work, eat, go to bed.

Now, the government forces us twice a year to fiddle with our electronic and mechanical clocks. Of course they can not (yet) manipulate the oscillations of our brain chemical, in this respect our good "doctor" is correct. But the shifted rhythm of our daily chores sooner or later shifts the daily change of our synchronized internal clock too.

So in the case of joboofish, we must assume that her 21:00 attack will shift in a few days to 21:00 again on the manipulated clock and does not stay on the natural time given by the position of the sun.

ASG [smiley=smokin.gif]