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(Message started by: wogdoggy on Sep 25^th, 2006, 11:49am)

Title: frova not bad
Post by wogdoggy on Sep 25^th, 2006, 11:49am

veromax seems to work for avout 24 hrs,,not a quick worker but works for quite a long time..1 pill almost lasts the whole 24 hrs..anybody else using this triptan?

also starting using topomax..just 2 pills b4 bedtime.

Title: Re: veromax not bad
Post by Bob P on Sep 25^th, 2006, 12:43pm

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May give ya a woody but ain't gonna stop a ch.

Title: Re: veromax not bad
Post by wogdoggy on Sep 25^th, 2006, 1:10pm

lol...too funny..i meant frovatriptan..damn i gotta get that other stuff instead..then i wont care about my headaches...lol...

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by Bond007 on Sep 25^th, 2006, 2:34pm

I use Frova for my migraines, which oddly enough have almost completely stopped since the CH has started up, and I really do like it. Now, for the CH it's a completely different story. Frova is not a quick acting triptan, so it doesn't do anything for the CH I'm having at that moment; however, I have noticed that when I take one Frova I do not have any more CH's for the next 24-28 hours. So, that's kinda nice.

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by TxBasslady on Sep 25^th, 2006, 2:51pm

I used to take Frova.

It worked pretty good for me. Instead of a 1 1/2 hour CH, it was down to about 20 minutes.

Not everyone has luck with it, but that's pretty normal for CH. Seems things never quite work the same for all.

Jean

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by Karla on Sep 25^th, 2006, 6:34pm

I was getting hit every 2 hours like a clock. I took imitrex for hit. Then my dr had me try frova. He said its one pill that will protect you from getting any ha with in 24 hours. lol every two hours right on schedule I got hit and I couldn't take anything withit or for it because I had already taken the frova. Never again will I touch that stuff.

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by prcole18 on Sep 26^th, 2006, 1:49pm

on 09/25/06 at 18:34:23, Karla wrote:

This is my problem. Ive got some Frova but haven't tried it yet due to the fact that if it dosen't work I can't use my Imigran jabs if I get hit.

Maybe I should just give it a go, 24 hours pain free sounds like heaven although 24 hours with ch's & not being able to take anything sounds like hell..... oh what to do [smiley=huh.gif]

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by BigCoffinHunter on Sep 26^th, 2006, 2:15pm

It takes a very tiny amount of a triptan to get me through the night. I have been using my amerge sparingly, just 1/4 or 1/5 of a pill will make it a PF night. Works so well that I tried to go without last night, hoping maybe these things were on the way out. I was wrong, got hit, but was able to kill it in a timely manner. Had a nastly after headache, but another 5mg melatonin pill got me to sleep, and it was gone when I woke. I'm grateful I can at least have some semblance of control of these things.

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by Carl_D on Oct 1^st, 2006, 10:48pm

on 09/25/06 at 14:34:18, Bond007 wrote:

HOLY SHIT DUDE!
What is weird is... I get migraines but very very infrequently. It was the CH driving me mad. New Years Eve last year I got hit with a whopper migraine. I started getting migraines about a month later then the CH stopped. I told my sis in law just the other day that, she remembers me getting alot of migraines while out of CH cycle, but since the Ch started back up in July I have only had a couple of really bad migraines. I switched to the Frova since it was working great for it, and when I went into cycle again, kept using it. Ran out of tabs last week, and started back on Imitrex. This past week was pure living hell. The worst I've seen since going into cycle.

Coincidence? Maybe not. Frova gooood, Emmy-trecks baaaaad!

You might want to talk to your doc before trying this, but I take a 2.5 mg Frova tab (5mg is full dose, 2.5 a half) and chew it up and let it sit under my tongue for awhile. Nasty as hell, but it does help it kick into the bloodstream and pull it away quicker than just swallowing the tab.

Peace,
Carl

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by Charlotte on Oct 1^st, 2006, 11:01pm

How is frova the same or different than maxalt melt?

Thx, Charlotte

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by prcole18 on Oct 2^nd, 2006, 1:14pm

So basiclly, using Frova as a preventive is a good idea for some?

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by LeLimey on Oct 2^nd, 2006, 2:05pm

I have used frova as a preventative with a lot of success. It does take up to two hours to kick in so take it at a PF time of day (or prepare to just use o2 to abort) and it will give up to 26 hours of pain free time.
I found if I used it for more than 3 days in a row it would bite back though but used 2-3 times a week and then a break for a couple of days and it can be very effective. If nothing else it has guaranteed a nights sleep or a day without hits for me
Another one for the arsenal if not for your daily weapon of choice. I do know of one sufferer here in the UK who used it daily for 7 weeks with no kick backs and no problems so it just goes to show we're all different!
Helen

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by BigCoffinHunter on Oct 2^nd, 2006, 2:13pm

I've found the longer-lasting triptans do a wonderful job if you get your CH's on a specific schedule. Amerge was great for sleep. I've fallen in love with Zomig NS for being able to either kill an oncoming headache, or I can take it before bed and get a night's sleep.

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by prcole18 on Oct 2^nd, 2006, 2:47pm

Im really tempted to try the Frova. Iv'e got some right here & just keep looking at it.

Prob is I don't use O2 to abort, I use Sumatriptan, so if the Frova don't work I cannot imagine not being able to have a jab in the leg with my trustee Imigran jab especially if we're talking kip 6 & above :-/

Talking of mixing Triptans does anybody do it or done it within say 12 hours & is still here to tell the tale?????

I once had a maxalt to abort, that then gave me 11 hours PF time, I then had an Imigran jab & am still here to tell the tale :D

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by BB on Oct 2^nd, 2006, 7:26pm

on 10/02/06 at 14:47:50, prcole18 wrote:

Talking of mixing Triptans does anybody do it or done it within say 12 hours & is still here to tell the tale?????

I once had a maxalt to abort, that then gave me 11 hours PF time, I then had an Imigran jab & am still here to tell the tale :D

Its dangerous to mix vasoconstrictors such as triptans as their effects can be compounded when used together or even close together. Triptans constrict ALL blood vessels, not just those in the brain. Constricting those in the heart too much and you risk a heart attack that may or may not be fatal.

Although in most young healthy people who have good blood pressure and a strong heart doing it once or twice may not cause any obvious side effects, no one can guarantee that the next time you do it your heart wont give out.

There have been cases of young people dropped dead from a massive heart attack caused by mixing triptans so in general the answer is BETTER NOT TAKE THE RISK.

One or even several CH hits without anything to abort will not kill you but mixing triptans even once can.

Hope that helps and painfree wishes to you.

Annette

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by prcole18 on Oct 3^rd, 2006, 12:56am

on 10/02/06 at 19:26:14, BB wrote:

no one can guarantee that the next time you do it your heart wont give out.

Good Point

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by zanychef on Oct 3^rd, 2006, 4:17am

i tried using frova as a prevent worked quite well for a while but like helen ssaid it does tend to bite back after longer use
yes i did use trex a couple of times during that time and am alive to tell the tale but i dont advise it to ANYONE!!!
i also found that dissolving the frova under the tongue slowly gave the best and longest lasting relief(tastes like crap though)
zany

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by Chonas on Oct 3^rd, 2006, 3:14pm

I couldn't get Frova down here, it seems to be a brand new drug. I'll have to wait to give it a try.

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by zanychef on Oct 4^th, 2006, 2:00am

its also called MIGARD

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by lskilly on Oct 4^th, 2006, 8:03pm

Guess I will just stick with the Zomig and it's funny orange taste. I'll keep crawling to the cabinet and paitently cutting the pill from it's adult proof container.
D---n thats hard to do with a 10 or 15.

Lskilly

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by BigCoffinHunter on Oct 4^th, 2006, 8:09pm

Is there a reason why you can't try a nasal spray form or the injectable trex?

Title: Re: frova not bad
Post by thebbz on Oct 4^th, 2006, 9:49pm

Quote:

Is there a reason why you can't try a nasal spray form or the injectable trex?

No just follow the docs instructions.
NEVER MIX TRIPANS.....Any questions? It will send you to the ER or even kill you. Been there!
The best would be have the 02 on standby and try the frova.
Char: The drug companys move a molecule around in the production of triptans. This is basically the same drug with a slightly different molecular structure to get around Glaxo's patent. This also makes them contraindicate each other.
all the best
jb