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(Message started by: slhaas on Aug 29^th, 2006, 6:27pm)

Title: Successful RC seed users...
Post by slhaas on Aug 29^th, 2006, 6:27pm

Im interested in hearing what method you all used with the RC seeds that was successful, and what the circumstances were. I've tried to break a cycle with them 3x and it hasn't worked. The last time was the other night after a bad hit on a new cycle. I took a lot of seeds, crushed them, let them soak in juice for about 3 hours and drank it all down (then having to scoop some of the crushed seeds out of bottom of the cup and eat them). I did this after having eaten about 2 to 2 1/2 hours before, and it didn't seem to break anything.

Title: Re: Successful RC seed users...
Post by TimJohnson on Aug 30^th, 2006, 1:14am

What is an RC seed?

Title: Re: Successful RC seed users...
Post by slhaas on Aug 30^th, 2006, 1:59am

It is a plant seed you can get from supplement stores and online. People say it can bust a cluster cycle.

Title: Re: Successful RC seed users...
Post by tommyD on Aug 30^th, 2006, 7:03am

RC seeds are the seeds of the Rivea corymbosa, a flowering vine also known as the Mexican morning glory; the seeds are known as ololiuqui. They are legal to buy, own, plant and grow, but it is ILLEGAL to ingest these seeds or to extract the actve ingredient, which is LSA, also known as lysegic acid amide, a much less potent cousin to LSD.

LSA, LSD and psilocybin (from magic mushrooms) are all tryptamines and all three have been used successfully to treat CH. All three are unfortunately illegal in many parts of the world.

I recently used three doses of Rivea corymbosa seeds a week apart to derail what seemed to be a mild cycle. I used doses of 35, 40 and 55 seeds respectively. The seeds were soaked in water for six to 12 hours before ingestion - seeds, water and all. Psychoactive effect were very mild. The stuff mainly makes me sleepy, but be careful - this is a powerful tryptamine hallucinogen. Do not use this substance unless you have thoroughly researched the matter . Those who suspect they may have underlying mental conditions should avoid all tryptamines.

Read here:

http://www.clusterbusters.com/
and
http://www.clusterbusters.com/faqlsa.htm

There are a number of threads on this on the Medications, Treatments and Therapies board.

-tommyD