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(Message started by: bluebrain on Jul 6^th, 2006, 9:54am)

Title: Shadows
Post by bluebrain on Jul 6^th, 2006, 9:54am

Is there any who will help me with a definition of shadows using your own words to describe it, do you have pain during this phase? symptoms? I think this phase has not been studied enough, maybe it can help us to get a better picture of what is going on inside our head during a CH.
Best regards. Bluebrain

Title: Re: Shadows
Post by unsolved1 on Jul 6^th, 2006, 10:12am

I consider the meaning of a shadow as having some pain (and/or other symptoms) but it's not a full blown cluster. A shadow for me is less than a KIP 5 or so.

PF Wishes

UNsolved

Title: Re: Shadows
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Jul 6^th, 2006, 10:18am

What unsolved said.

For me, it's a low-grade discomfort in my temple that's fairly constant once my cycle is truly underway. Sometimes it ramps up to a kip 4-5, but usually it's in the range of a 2-3. The shadows are the last thing to disappear, even after my preventatives are working.

Kris

Title: Re: Shadows
Post by Guiseppi on Jul 6^th, 2006, 10:22am

Shadows for me are the uncomfortable feeling in my stomach of "oh sh%$ here it comes" along with a clawing sensation in my head, kip2-4, that never really goes anywhere. I'll sometimes get the eye droop and the runny nose. Not like a hang over headache, or a head cold head ache, more of a cluster headache without the real pain.

Guiseppi

Title: Re: Shadows
Post by frizzle on Jul 6^th, 2006, 3:37pm

Quote:

Shadows for me are the uncomfortable feeling in my stomach of "oh sh%$ here it comes"

Yup, like that.

Title: Re: Shadows
Post by georgej on Jul 6^th, 2006, 7:39pm

on 07/06/06 at 15:37:35, frizzle wrote:

Yup, like that.

I agree. The center of my cycle has continuous shadows floating in and out--the feeling that one's coming, and some of the symptoms, but only a little pain, kip 2 or 3, and then gone. That and constantly feeling as if I've been poisoned for about two weeks. I don't know any better way to describe it--as if I've been poisoned. Could be that's sleep deprivation, though...

George

Title: Re: Shadows
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Jul 6^th, 2006, 10:07pm

on 07/06/06 at 10:18:44, Kris_in_SJ wrote:

I'll go with Kris only I dont use Meds.
Regards
Barry

Title: Re: Shadows
Post by Richr8 on Jul 6^th, 2006, 10:45pm

I'll go to the Kip3-4 level for shadows. Five and above is a full blown CH in my book.

Title: Re: Shadows
Post by ElizabethFL on Jul 6^th, 2006, 11:26pm

Yep, I believe I am currently at the peak or downfall of a cycle as I am starting to experience shadows more than actual full blown 5 or above attacks. Where before (like for the past 2 months or so) they were hellish\burning\ unbearable attacks, with severe runny nose and eye droop, lasting 20 minutes or more, they have now changed to a stabbing/throbbing, but somewhat tolerable, pain; and only lasting about 5-10 minutes at a time. Also becoming more frequent and not on schedule as they were before these past few days. I define this as shadows.