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Title: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Redd on Nov 30th, 2007, 7:25pm This will open a can of worms, but I can't take it anymore. I'm not a raceist. This has nothing to do with race. This has to do with a travisty of of the judicial system. CBS news just ran a story about an illegal alien who presumably provolked a German Shephard who then attacked him. The Illegal sued and got (I can't remember) amount of money, and the dog was ordered destroyed. People have cried in outrage over this and it's being called an "immigration" issue. I have no problems with immigrants, in fact I thrive on diversity and believe it's a good thing. But the key word here is IMMIGRATE. Legally! Illegal border crossings are not "immigration". Immigration is a legal process. Admittedly, the first settlers from the Mayflower came here without invitation and the rest is History (we'll not get into the history book version). However, there are now and have been laws and rules for coming to this country for a very long time. There is an established Government here. Respect that. Americans have to abide by other countries rules and laws when visiting or becomming residents of that country. Tax payer money paid the lawyer's fees, my gut tells me this...(it wasn't reported if it was or not). I feel bad that the man was attacked by the dog. However, lets start at square one...he was here illegally, therefore he shouldn't have qualified to be represented by an attorney, he should have been deported. Anyone in this country illegally should not have access to services designed to aid citizens of the USA. There should not be programs that serve people who are not legal residents of this country. My relatives came here legally. They paid the price to live in a free country, and to partake of the American Dream. When the American Judicial system protects someone who isn't even legal to be here above the rights of it's own citizens to have a dog to protect itself and the family who cares for it, then there is definately something wrong with the system. Ok flame away... I can take it. But my stand is that if you aren't in this country legally, then all bets are off. You suffer, you have no recourse. If you are here legally, then by all means, if you feel wronged, do something about it. |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Jonny on Nov 30th, 2007, 7:34pm on 11/30/07 at 19:25:46, Redd wrote:
If that happens, baby....they will deal with me! >:( |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Annette on Nov 30th, 2007, 7:43pm I dont know the whole story but I dont understand how an illegal immigrant can sue? [smiley=huh.gif] In Australia all illegal immigrants live in hiding. They dont have drivers license, they dont have bank account, they cant even rent a house. They work and get paid cash under the table by dodgy employers. The minute they come to be seen by any law reinforcer they get detained and put into a detention centre to be trialed. If they lose the case they will be deported. |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Jonny on Nov 30th, 2007, 7:50pm on 11/30/07 at 19:43:42, Annette wrote:
I guess there are no moonbats in your country.....LOL ;;D We have millions of them. ;;D |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Redd on Nov 30th, 2007, 7:51pm I'm not a filthy rich celebrity who can afford to just up and leave this country who's standards have transended our own constitution. I live here in the USA...I abide by it's laws. I may not always agree with everythinhg, but I'm thankful that I have a "legal" right to speak out if I don't agree. Thats because I'm a legal citizen. |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Yorky on Nov 30th, 2007, 8:04pm on 11/30/07 at 19:25:46, Redd wrote:
just an example http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article2971369.ece a fuckin teddy.........the woman was only over there..teaching them english ? but in england....... ....http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l62/yorky_2006/policeES1807_468x3691.jpg |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Charlie on Nov 30th, 2007, 8:10pm A horrible thing Yorky. Redd: You wouldn't find that kind of behavior from an AMERICAN Shepard..http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/crackup.gif I'm widju, Redd. Charlie |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Jimi on Nov 30th, 2007, 10:46pm [smiley=crackup.gif] |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Ray on Dec 1st, 2007, 4:23am Yes, we can speak out when things just ain't right. The rub is, how do we get it right? [smiley=huh.gif] |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Linda_Howell on Dec 1st, 2007, 4:42am I'm with Jimi. oh LORD....did I jest say that?????????? I'm going to hell tomorrow. In a handbasket. |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by zwibbs/Scott on Dec 1st, 2007, 6:00am Redd, If you watched it on CBS I'm sure their twist was favoring the illegal who provoked the dog in the first place. There are burglars who break in houses , then fall and hurt themselves who sue the homeowner. When CBS conducts a poll they do it with The New York Times. Need I say more ? w |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by BarbaraD on Dec 1st, 2007, 8:44am Number one -- anyone who provokes a dog deserves anything they get (from the dog or owner- try messin' with one of my animals - it's not a pretty site)... Number two -- the illegal should have NO damn rights at all and I resent MY money being spent on a defense against anything for him.... Number three *** Most important -- instead of bitching here - WRITE your senators and congressmen and STATE your complaint THERE!!!!! Then if the s.o.b.'s don't do something VOTE them OUT!!! Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by rolo65 on Dec 1st, 2007, 9:03am We need to clone that dog and get them down there where there should be a fence and let them do what the government is failing to accomplish. ::) |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by rolo65 on Dec 1st, 2007, 9:11am on 12/01/07 at 08:44:10, BarbaraD wrote:
That goal is getting harder to achieve every day because with all their illegal votes watering down elections, we the citizens of the USA are just getting dunked in the tank by our worthless politicians scabbing votes. >:( |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Melissa on Dec 1st, 2007, 9:14am Was this in Florexico or Mexifornia?? |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by artonio7 on Dec 1st, 2007, 12:07pm http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=fEedZJka1HQ&feature=related ROFLMAO!!!!! [smiley=laugh.gif] with warm regards, Tony |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Jonny on Dec 2nd, 2007, 1:16pm "In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." Theodore Roosevelt 1907 |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by BarbaraD on Dec 2nd, 2007, 3:29pm Jonny, I think you're preaching to the choir here -- Old Teddy was right in 1907 and he's still right today. Now if we could just convince those idiots in DC of that ..... Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by cootie on Dec 2nd, 2007, 11:02pm Sum of 'them' killed my girfriend a few years ago....and I think they sorta got away with it !! There was sum sort of festival at this campgrounds and they were leaveing and stopped at a 4 way stop which they apparently didn't understand since none of them spoke english and doubt they could read to understand signs. So the friend was on back of a bike and it was there turn to go but the alien types kept creeping out to go at the same time....(alot of traffic that day cuz of the festival) so they ended up smacking the front of the bike enuff tryin to EDGE out and caused the bike to flop onto it's side lightening fast. My friend was holding a dish she had taken to a picnic and never even had time to throw up her arms. She did a face dive onto the pavement and died at the scene. None on the bike had been drinking or anything wrong. Freak accident but STILL.....it happens alot on this area ! One with a few alias's just got killed in town. He left a bar/resturant my friends own and got himself into a pickle with sum brothers that stabbed him sumwhere else then tossed him in a field and caught his body on fire. (creepy) The bar's business is suffereing cuz of it. (They served him but he was known to have a drinking/drug problem) At the bar/resturant he was acting ok tho. Since he had two names they just put them both down at the funeral......duh. Our town is goin to hell in a jalipinio bucket Pam (ragheads own all our hotels and dairy marts and gas stations.....why is that.....why do they own all of them and what's there interest or plan ?) Sorry not tryin to be racist here by any way......K ???? |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Callico on Dec 2nd, 2007, 11:26pm The quotation attributed to Edmund Burke, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" still holds true. We have to make our concerns known to our elected officials and make them hold the line. (I hope you have better luck with ours than I have with mine here in the "Peoples Republic of Illinois".) Jerry |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by nani on Dec 3rd, 2007, 12:04am I haven't seen or read the story. I'm a dog owner. If my dogs attack someone (except of course, someone entering my property without permission) I am liable for that. I don't care if they attacked Hitler himself...if I am wrong, and not controlling my dogs... I am liable. Pretty simple really. |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by LindaM on Dec 3rd, 2007, 12:10am I read the art icle about the gardner and the dog. The family admitted that they should not have had their dogs out as they were very agressive towards starngers. The gardner in question took a position behind the owner for protection which prevented him from receiving even worse injuries-as it was, he needed almost 200 stitches. The dog owner's insurance company settled with the gardner for $350,000. The gardner said that he did not want the dog killed but that his owners needed to control their dogs. The gardner is here legally, from south America. He is here legally and trying to attain the "American Dream". Please make sure of your facts before going on the attack. LindaM |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by ccbiggsoo7 on Dec 3rd, 2007, 2:06am yo quiero Taco bell !! |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Redd on Dec 3rd, 2007, 7:19am http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/WaterCooler/story?id=3940538 Quote:
Although the TV news failed to to metion the man was working for the family, the article does state he was here illegaly from Hondouras. So I have my facts straight. |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Kevin_M on Dec 3rd, 2007, 7:34am on 12/03/07 at 00:10:05, LindaM wrote:
There are differences and probably more concerning the circumstances but $350,000 is different from $250,000, Honduras is not in South America, illegal and legal status are different, too. I'd hardly know they were both the same story if I read them separately. |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by BarbaraD on Dec 3rd, 2007, 7:36am Ok, if the s.o.b. "hit" the dog - he should be hung! As a doggie advocate - I can't abide anyone (legal or illegal) hitting a dog (or other animal). Had it been my dog he provoked - I would have shot him and here in East Texas I would have gotten away with it - we have our own "justice" system here about things like that. Sorry, Linda, maybe you heard about another case, but this one, I resent MY tax money going to pay a lawyer for him -- deport him is my opinion. But in all fairness - fine the family for hiring him in the first place. They should have checked for a "green card". But the dog was innocent - he was only protecting himself and his family. Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by deltadarlin on Dec 3rd, 2007, 8:35am *This* is what I found Dog's fate devastates family Judge orders shepherd destroyed after vicious attack Thursday, November 08, 2007 BY LINDA STEIN PRINCETON TOWNSHIP -- A family whose beloved German shepherd faces death for having led a dog attack on a landscaper is devastated by the news but vows to continue to fight to save him. "He needs to come home," said Guy James, the Princeton homeowner who managed to call his dogs off the landscaper, but only after the worker was severely mauled in the June 5 attack. "He's innocent. He did nothing more than protect my wife. He never bit anyone until she was grabbed and pulled to the ground," James said. Congo has been ruled vicious by a municipal judge and ordered put down. "As a family, it's destroyed our way of living," said James, 46. "We're just consumed with the whole thing." The landscaper, Giovanni Rivera, has won a $250,000 insurance settlement as a result of serious injuries he sustained in the attack, which occurred when he and others disobeyed instructions from James not to get out of their car until Congo and several other dogs on the property could be sequestered for safety. Rivera, a Trenton man, was on the 10-acre, fenced property on Stuart Road to do yard work. The landscaping crew had arrived before 7 a.m., about an hour before they were expected. James, who was about to take a shower, called out a window to them in Spanish, telling them to get back in their car and wait because the dogs were in the backyard being fed. While the dogs, two 2 1/2-year-old German shepherds and their four 6-month-old puppies, had not had problems with people on the property before, James said in an interview that he didn't want them to interfere with the workers. Also, he wanted the workers to wait until he was dressed so that he could tell them what to do, he said. Instead, Rivera and another worker got out of the car after a few minutes and the dogs began to bark. That worker began to hit the dogs with a metal rake and Elizabeth James, Guy James' wife, yelled for him to stop. Meanwhile, Rivera, who was afraid of the dogs, grabbed her from behind and pulled her to the ground, causing her to scream. At that point Congo began to bite and scratch Rivera and some of the puppies joined in. "The whole thing was pretty terrifying," Elizabeth James said. "You can't imagine. I was scared. It happened extremely fast. I didn't have time to think." Meanwhile, her 8-year-old son, Ben, ran into the house to get his father. Moments later, Guy James hurried out and called off the dogs. Rivera, who was treated for bites at a local hospital, settled with the couple's insurance carrier for the $250,000, Guy James said. Rivera's lawyer, Kevin Riechelson, said his client has scars from the dog bites and scratches that may be permanent on his arms, legs and torso. Rivera still suffers from numbness in his leg but is able to walk. "He had a really deep wound on his right thigh," Riechelson said. "Luckily, his face wasn't touched." In addition to the $250,000 settlement, the Jameses' insurer agreed to pay medical bills and worker's compensation claims for Rivera, Riechelson said. The Jameses' children, especially Ben who witnessed the attack, have been "crying nonstop," Elizabeth James said. "They've been on an emotional rollercoaster." Their dog has been placed in a shelter while the court process plays out. Hannah James, 11, wrote a letter to Judge Russell Annich Jr. saying in part, "I am so upset seeing my dog locked up in jail for doing his job. When my friends are over they play with and around Congo and have no problems. I want you to know that this is coming from my heart and I mean it with all my heart and soul. Actually, my broken heart. We will never ever forget this for the rest of our lives. You have made the wrong decision in my eyes." And Congo, who is being held at Save a Friend of Homeless Animals, is depressed and anxious, Guy James said. He now has to be hand-fed or he will not eat. Meanwhile, James' lawyer, Robert Lytle, argued at a hearing in Municipal Court that the attack had been provoked and under New Jersey law, the dogs had a right to protect themselves and their owner. But some, including municipal prosecutor Kim Otis, argue that the Jameses should have had control over the dogs and were negligent. Indeed, Judge Annich found that "the prevailing circumstances did not constitute provocation and that the attack upon Mr. Rivera, initiated by Congo and subsequently by the other dogs present, continuing unabated for three minutes, was a response grossly disproportionate to the prevailing situation." Guy James pointed to testimony from dog behavior expert and University of Pennsylvania professor Ilana Reisner, who said that in her professional opinion James' dogs were "clearly provoked." "Based on these threats (unfamiliar individuals, perceived threatening position, the attack on the puppies with a metal rake, grabbing the owner from behind and pulling to the ground) the dogs were compelled to defend themselves and their owner," Reisner wrote. "I am so sorry for what happened but it was not out of viciousness," Guy James said. "This was a provoked attack and any dog would protect its owner in the same manner. I can't imagine that any dog -- who was beat with a rake, hard enough to cause bloody gashes, and then had its owner grabbed from behind -- would walk away without action." Guy James also garnered statements from several people who had been on his property and attested to the dogs' friendly behavior, including John Pettenati, the township building inspector. In fact Pettenati nicknamed them "the happy dogs" because they were so pleasant. Guy James said that while he and his family were waiting for their house to be finished they lived for several months at a hotel. During that time Congo and his mate, Lucia, interacted with maids and others and never caused a problem, he said. James also sent Congo and Lucia to the American Dog School in Denver for obedience training. James stressed that the dogs were trained for obedience, not as guard dogs. The four puppies are currently at that school, he said. Five of their siblings were adopted and one of those dogs is being trained to be a police dog in Pennsylvania, Guy James said. Meanwhile, an article in The Times and reports in other media outlets have spurred the public into action on Congo's behalf. Kat McAfee of the Coalition for Action in the Interests of Animals has organized the Coalition to Free Congo. She expects hundreds to come to a rally Tuesday at 10 a.m. at the municipal building at 400 Witherspoon St. in Princeton. McAfee said they hope to save Congo's life by "bringing pressure on the powers that be." Annich is expected to place his ruling on the record Tuesday afternoon. For his part, Guy James said he has received thousands of letters and e-mails and thanked those who have offered their support. "Congo is a fantastic family pet who is loved by everyone we know and many we don't," James said. "We will not let this rest for the sake of all dogs and their owners, and most of all, our family and Congo." Guy James plans to appeal Annich's ruling to Superior Court. "We will fight with all our love and support from friends and strangers until he is back with us," he said. I've also read conflicting reports on Mr. Rivera's immigration status (tbh, that's a moot point here). If we're going to go down that tract, might as well get my pistol out and start shooting all the homies on south side who are draped with bling, because they must be drug dealers or thugs. However, from what I read, the dog should not be put down. Facts I gathered from the various reports that were consistent: 1. The workers arrived early. 2. The owner of the dogs told the workers NOT to get out of their vehicles until they could put the dogs up (and the workers were spoken to in their own language). 3. The workers did not follow directions and Congo, doing what is natural for dogs to do, judged Mr. Rivera to be a threat and went to attack. 4. Mr. Rivera, in his fear to protect himself, did something very stupid and tried to defend himself by hitting at the dog (wrong thing to do, he should have dropped to the ground and covered his head with his arms). 5. When Mrs. James came out, Mr. Rivera, again in his fear, grabbed Mrs. James (doesn't make any difference where he jerked her to the ground or not). Congo reacted as he should and that was to protect his owner. The dog should not be put down, BUT, given that he had been to obedience training and everything else, the dog should have responded immediately to any command given by his owner (Grace was just a lap dog who wanted everybody to love her, but I could stop her dead in her tracks just by saying her name). |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Melissa on Dec 3rd, 2007, 8:59am thanks for posting that darlin and I agree with your view. |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by nani on Dec 3rd, 2007, 10:57am on 12/03/07 at 07:36:29, BarbaraD wrote:
You can't get a public defender for a civil case. His lawyer took the case because he gets a cut of the settlement. Public defenders (which are paid for by tax revenues) are for criminal courts, not civil. |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by thomas on Dec 3rd, 2007, 11:06am on 12/03/07 at 10:57:37, nani wrote:
Yep. |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by ccbiggsoo7 on Dec 3rd, 2007, 11:51am bet they don't hire any more illegal immigrants, don't feel sorry for the s.o.b. ! Trying to save a buck by hiring illegals when he could of hired a legit (AMERICAN RAN) INSURED company!!Quit giving illegals work and they will quit coming in!! |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by brewcrew on Dec 3rd, 2007, 12:19pm on 12/03/07 at 11:51:43, ccbiggsoo7 wrote:
That's like trying to coordinate a "vote all the incumbents out" campaign. Ain't gonna happen. Too many idiots to educate. |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by artonio7 on Dec 3rd, 2007, 1:34pm on 12/03/07 at 12:19:10, brewcrew wrote:
Well they had a little flashmob in australia... Funny as hell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vziDROl_MJo |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by brewcrew on Dec 3rd, 2007, 2:31pm [smiley=crackup.gif] How difficult is it to become an Australian citizen? |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by ccbiggsoo7 on Dec 3rd, 2007, 3:26pm Any business that employs illegal aliens should face severe penalties and a boycott by all consumers! I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts. 1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77 2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html 3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html 4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html 5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html 9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html 11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border, also as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht 12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.' http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf 13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm 14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In the United States.' http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml The total cost is a whooping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!!! If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message, but on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, then forward it to every human in the country, including every representative in Washington, DC. |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by deltadarlin on Dec 3rd, 2007, 8:02pm Does anyone know for sure whether this man is illegal or not? |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by brewcrew on Dec 3rd, 2007, 8:05pm on 12/03/07 at 20:02:14, deltadarlin wrote:
Only his hairdresser knows for sure. ;) |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Redd on Dec 3rd, 2007, 8:44pm Delta, The article I posted was dated Dec 1 I believe. I do think the media would have had that confirmed by that time. Your article was dated Nov 8th. |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by deltadarlin on Dec 4th, 2007, 8:17am Congo was reprieved and allowed to go back home with a few *restrictions*~" Congo must wear a muzzle whenever he is outside his owners' Stuart Road West house. Also, Congo is not allowed to leave the property of his owners, Guy and Elizabeth James, without prior approval of the township's animal control officer." |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by Annette on Dec 4th, 2007, 8:36am I am so happy to hear Congo wasnt put down. :) According to the story posted by Darlin he was acting as a good loyal guard dog and did nothing wrong, from the perspective of a dog at least. I still dont understand though how an illegal immigrant can get a settlement from an insurance company? I thought insurance companies would use any excuses NOT to pay anyone any money ?? I would think they would investigate very carefully his entitlement status. Maybe he was illegal in the sense that he didnt have a work visa? He could have a visitor visa but not a work visa, that would make him illegal to work and get paid in the US but legally he could be there. |
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Title: Re: OK...I just don't get it. Post by BarbaraD on Dec 4th, 2007, 11:47am Maybe for once - the outcry against illegal "justice" won the day after all. If more people would protest these outrageous rulings, we might see more justice in our cities. Thank goodness the dog was saved. Now if they'd deport Rivera, it'd be a good day all around. He can probably live high on the hog back in Honduras on his "settlement". Hugs BD |
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