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Title: Enlightening viewpoint Post by mikey-de on Nov 4th, 2007, 8:18am I watched this video in its entirety at the first sitting. [smiley=JAW_DROP.gif] (Small pause for O2 fix) It shook my world. It is presented as researched and documented information contained in this video. This is a pretty graphic video with gore, coarse language, and shocking information. IMO is not suitable for children but they also should be informed of this as it concerns everyone. It's a streaming flash movie and most people can watch it online. If you have a slow connection here is what you do. Press play in the flash window(I am assuming most people have flash installed). Than press pause and the movie will continue to download and the grey bar indicates how much of the movie has been saved to your tempoary internet files.You can press play at anytime in the video to watch the buffered info but it is probably better to wait so you can watch it all at once. watch the video here: www.zeitgeistmovie.com Please leave your comment/intellectual conversation starter here after you have watched the vid.Thanks! | | | v |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by john_d on Nov 4th, 2007, 9:39am I disagree with it being enlightening. It's dualistic, it's simplistic, it's too explicit to be considered art and it just hands you someone elses answers exactly like religion does. It talks about finding the truth for yourself and then it tells you what the truth is. It's just propoganda for another dogma. IMHO. It's easy to blame religion for our aggressive behavior as human beings. It's easy to blame any institution because they are all just groups of us hairless monkeys grooming each other and occasionally throwing stones from the trees. But even more, if they think they can point their finger at any one thing and say this is religion, they are deluded. Of course, we are also more than hairless monkeys an it's true the stones are scary big these days. So if we as humanity could reach the enlightened point of view that sees the simple connection between the throwing of stones and the real short and long term consequences (as shown in the footage of that movie) that would be a great start. Right now on some level of our being, we think it's a necessary part of our existence- that's why we do it. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by assaultme on Nov 4th, 2007, 10:11am My opinion is that if we are going to get maximum traction in a light-bodied car, we must use a 4 link suspension with a positraction or Detroit locker rear axle. This combination is drag race proven and anyone who thinks using lawn mower tires and a Ford Pinto rear differential is ignorant of the science of drag racing physics. However, I am tolerant of others opinions as it relates to what pizza toppings are best. Dave |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Jonny on Nov 4th, 2007, 10:13am Vegetable is a term which generally refers to an edible part of a plant. The definition is traditional rather than scientific and is somewhat arbitrary and subjective. All parts of herbaceous plants eaten as food by humans, whole or in part, are normally considered vegetables. Mushrooms, though belonging to the biological kingdom Fungi, are also commonly considered vegetables. In general, vegetables are thought of as being savory, and not sweet, although there are many exceptions. Nuts, grains, herbs, spices and culinary fruits (see below) are normally not considered vegetables. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by assaultme on Nov 4th, 2007, 10:29am Now you see Jonny, I have a very different...more "enlightened" understanding of mushrooms....but I dont want to start a food fight here [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Jonny on Nov 4th, 2007, 10:38am Ahhhh shrooms.....the good old days....LOL ;;D |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by assaultme on Nov 4th, 2007, 10:45am Thats what I'm talkin' 'bout ;;D |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Jonny on Nov 4th, 2007, 10:47am Jonnymule presents.............................. http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/vietvet2tours/a5_2.jpg?t=1194190817 .................................. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Kevin_M on Nov 4th, 2007, 10:49am Turning off the unnecessary annoying dialogue of the video and timely starting of this far more enlightening and amazing soundtrack makes it a trip back to revisit a more real sounding substance that shook the world coming through in neon surreality. http://tralfaz-archives.com/coverart/B/black_paraf.jpg |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by mikey-de on Nov 4th, 2007, 10:50am Quote:
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It's a shame that people know more about what is going on in Brittney Spears life than what their own President is doing while they are glued to the tube. Anyone heard of the SPP? Security and Prosperity Partnership between Canada, US and Mexico becoming a single entity(North American Union?) This requires the dissolution of the Candian, American, and Mexican constitutions which is partly the reason for the incremental dismantling of the US Bill of Rights thru the Patriot Act and other subversive legislations passed by Congress. Of course most people haven't heard of it because it is being done in SECRET! Quote:
Another quote from the zeitgeist movie: "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies....If the American people ever allow the private banks to control the issue of currency...the banks and corporations that grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent that their father's conquered." Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) Here is a great president and visionary of the future because in the early to mid 1900's the private banks DID get control of the issuance of currency. And now children ARE waking up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered and continue to fight and die for to this very day. I read Marks newspaper article and so you can see that Jeffersons call is on the bullseye. Here we have a family that is going homeless when it is absolutely unnecessary. The BUSH government is sending 100's of billions to Iraq for "development of infrastructure" when his own levees are breaking and his own people are going without food and shelter. 750,000 homeless American people is a sad commentary on the Bush governments list of priorities. So what it really boils down to is control of the worlds people through the money supply. They know that if we stand together the people will be undefeatable so they use the divide and conquer method. I found it somewhat amusing that you used the term "hairless apes" which is analogous to evolution in a somewhat religious type disussion that refutes evolutionary theory...hehehe...just an observation. ::) Thanks for the reply John[smiley=thumbsup.gif], did you watch the whole video? |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Jonny on Nov 4th, 2007, 10:55am http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/monstergarage/monstergarage.html The turnip (Brassica rapa var. rapa) is a root vegetable commonly grown in temperate climates worldwide for its white, bulbous taproot. Small, tender, varieties are grown for human consumption, while larger varieties are grown as feed for livestock. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by phil_h on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:01am Interesting. Thank you for sharing this . I did watch the whole thing . Inspires thought rather than reaction ........ phil h |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by mikey-de on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:15am Thanks Phil That is what I was hoping for, and to get one positive comment out of this tuff audience makes it worth all the skeptism and negative feedback from those who would rather close their eyes, cover their ears and chant the la-la-la song so they don't have to hear what anyone else might have to say lest it burst their happy little bubble. I think you can see it only inspires thought in those who watch it, and reaction from those whom do not. Kudos to you Phil! :) |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by chewy on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:17am on 11/04/07 at 11:15:22, mikey-de wrote:
They would be who? All that dont agree with you ? Get over yourself. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by JenniferD on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:18am I hear mule riding is a great high endurance sport - 'specially after all that hard work growing turnips ;;D |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by chewy on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:21am If you play George Carlin albums backwards with a wind from the South West blowing you hear Satanic messages. Of course only if you are within a ring of vegetables. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by john_d on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:24am Excellect link posted by Maffumatt in another thread... http://americanbacklash.com/Paranoias.htm |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by assaultme on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:26am on 11/04/07 at 10:55:30, Jonny wrote:
Interesting point about turnips Jonny. I was aghast when I read this: "As one of the oldest and most widely eaten vegetables, turnips have traditionally played an important role as a storage vegetable. However, they have gained a reputation as being “common folk’s food” but are currently working hard to overcome that reputation." Not wanting to sound like an "elitist"....I believe no vegetable platter is complete without our old friend the turnip wedge. We at the American Turnip Society ARE working hard to dispel the horrible myths perpetrated by various pro-meat/ anti-vegetable groups !!! |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Jonny on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:32am on 11/04/07 at 11:26:09, assaultme wrote:
Dave, that was very interesting, thank you! BTW....Jenn, the rides are free. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:55am Quote:
I whole-heartedly disagree with this statement. The humble potato would, in my opinion, be the most widely eaten vegtable. A whole country was almost lost, due to the great potato famine. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by assaultme on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:57am Pumpkins are members of the family cucurbitaceae which include the other vine crops; melons, cucumbers, and squash. Having said that: Canned “pumpkin” pie filling is often a type of squash and not really pumpkin at all. So, pumpkins are a useless vegetable. This little pumpkin tidbit is a well kept secret. After 35 years of enlightened pumpkin research, I can safely say that all who do not subscribe to my point of view as it relates to pumpkins...are big stupid dummies....and probably Catholics. Want more proof of the lengths people will go to besmearch the truth? A man filed for divorce when learned that those "zucchini" pies his wife had been making him were actually made of pumpkin: A Russian man immediately filed for divorce from his wife of 18 years after he discovered she had been making pies with pumpkins instead of zucchini. "She knows I absolutely hate pumpkins and she lied to me for months," said Ivan Dimitrov, 47. "What else has she been lying about? What man could trust a woman who fed him pumpkins?" [NY Post] She lied to him about slipping him pumpkin...what else would she lie about I ask!?!? I agree, what man would trust a woman who feeds him pumpkins !?!?!? I suspect she is a Southern Baptist. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by assaultme on Nov 4th, 2007, 12:02pm on 11/04/07 at 11:55:03, Linda_Howell wrote:
Damn, this debate is getting lively !!! Being of Irish descent, I can attest to the importance of the potato. My uncle Shane worked at the "Mr. potato head" factory in Cork Ireland when the potato famine hit. People were starving and he subsequently lost his job because no one could get potatoes and the toy went the way of the Mattel goobeldy goop creature making hot plate. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Melissa on Nov 4th, 2007, 12:07pm I'm being enlightened right now by eating fun size Hershey bars, M&M's, Milky Way & Twix. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by assaultme on Nov 4th, 2007, 12:17pm on 11/04/07 at 12:07:16, Melissa wrote:
I guess someone has not been following this thread. The debate is about whether we should have stayed with D.C. current or whether Teslas A.C. current was the right way to go. Personally, I believe electricity is the work of the devil. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Melissa on Nov 4th, 2007, 12:21pm on 11/04/07 at 12:17:41, assaultme wrote:
Oh! Oops! Well, I am pro-LP & firewood! ;;D I think electricity is highly overrated and that it's corrupted our young people's minds to the point of anarchy. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 4th, 2007, 12:23pm Great idea Mel, since I can not add anything to Dave's potato debate. I want to be enlightened too so I will eat some chocolate, wash it down with a double-esspresso and a red bull and I will be enlightened for the rest of the day. Jim can peel me off the walls later. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by LeLimey on Nov 4th, 2007, 12:40pm Peel you off the walls? Hey can I come? I've always wanted to have a go in one of those velcro suits ;;D |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 4th, 2007, 12:44pm Velcro????? Now if that isn't the work of the devil, I don't know what is. God in his merciful wisdom however, continues to give us shoelaces. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by LeLimey on Nov 4th, 2007, 12:48pm Yes but there is nothing like velcro for waking up a man with a hairy chest ;;D Handy little household tip for you there eh Linda?! |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 4th, 2007, 12:51pm I prefer the airhorn. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by artonio7 on Nov 4th, 2007, 12:52pm on 11/04/07 at 12:48:07, LeLimey wrote:
Hmmm a velcro brazillian. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE with warm regards, Tony |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by George_J on Nov 4th, 2007, 12:56pm on 11/04/07 at 12:51:15, Linda_Howell wrote:
Stand back a ways when you do the airhorn thing. Just a small safety precaution. Cymbals work too. ;;D Best, George |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by LeLimey on Nov 4th, 2007, 1:53pm Yes but my way is the most educational.You get to learn a whole new language at the same time.. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Kevin_M on Nov 4th, 2007, 2:10pm Mike, There was once a very popular album, beautifully done. At the very end some little mumbled words say, "there really is no dark side of the moon." on 11/03/07 at 14:49:10, mikey-de wrote:
History makes an effort to be fact based. At the end of this article, the producer himself says: It is my hope that people will not take what is said in the film as the truth, but find out for themselves, for truth is not told, it is realized. www.archive.org/details/zeitgeist_movie Here, that statement is partially reiterated in a very good objective review, and as a reviewer, mentions the movie to be pretty standard stuff for conspiracy buffs. The propaganda did it's part for the typical shortcomings in reality. The video's producer does inform us that, "It is my hope that people will not take what is said in the film as the truth . . . " www.boingboing.net/2007/08/06/jay-kinney-reviews-z.html So, there was no effort to keep it truthful, just clips and dialogue put together to create food for thought. I guess without truth... on 11/03/07 at 14:49:10, mikey-de wrote:
you have your own dogma, propaganda, and bullshit that you prefer. I am happy for you that you have found what you are looking for and are content. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Charlie on Nov 4th, 2007, 4:26pm Not much more to add so here is my meatloaf recipe again: http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/knife fork.gif Chisel out enough room in the microwave for your thawed beefalo; the stuff in back of the freezer, not the package from 1998, leave in plastic tray. Mix with Hamburger Helper, onion sticks, and Ketchup enhanced green tomato paste. Toss in some fake salt and Bacon Bits if you wanna go nuts. Pound on the microwave key pad to set the timer and run for cover. Head for the couch, pop in one of your Celebrity Poker videos and relax. When the smoke alarm goes off, it's done. After you've satisfied your neighbors and the fire trucks have gone, take out the meatloaf. I usually find that it's a bit easier to separate the melted plastic from the meatloaf if you run it under cold water. Poke around in the cupboard for an unprententious wine cooler, grab your Ron Popiel's electric knife, and off you go. Serves one...only once, so far. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/STRETCHER.gif |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Jonny on Nov 4th, 2007, 4:30pm on 11/04/07 at 14:10:54, Kevin_M wrote:
So am I, just dont try and shove it down my throat.....Got it! Because you will not like what comes back up! |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by LeLimey on Nov 4th, 2007, 4:35pm on 11/04/07 at 16:30:23, Jonny wrote:
Have you ever noticed there's ALWAYS diced carrots?? I've never eaten diced carrots in my life but you can guarantee everytime I produce a technicolour yawn it's got diced carrots in it! WTF?!! |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Melissa on Nov 4th, 2007, 5:27pm on 11/04/07 at 16:35:44, LeLimey wrote:
Ya know... that's weird. Whenever I freeze carrots I always cut them it coins or sticks. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Annette on Nov 4th, 2007, 6:24pm Please enlighten me, what is the difference between diced carrots and those that were cut into coins ? [smiley=huh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Melissa on Nov 4th, 2007, 6:33pm on 11/04/07 at 18:24:52, Annette wrote:
Cooking time & presentation of course. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by LeLimey on Nov 4th, 2007, 6:38pm Well is like this - have you ever seen "coins" when you've been sick?! [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by artonio7 on Nov 4th, 2007, 6:40pm shredded carrots are so much easier to puke back up than coined or the slices. [smiley=hurl.gif] |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Annette on Nov 4th, 2007, 6:59pm Oh thank you so very much Melissa, Helen and Tony :-* I am now thoroughly enlightened ! ;;D Next time someone asks me why I feed them diced or shredded carrots I will inform them so that its easier for them to puke it back up 8) On the other hand I will only feed coined carrots to kids and dogs from now on. The things you can learn from this Board is mind boggling, I tell you! |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Maffumatt on Nov 4th, 2007, 7:13pm After reading this thread, all the talk of food makes me hungry, but the bad taste in my mouth makes me not so hungry. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by andrewjb on Nov 4th, 2007, 8:49pm :), its a good enough reason for me to have monday off ! though i know ill have to work over, and harder the rest of the week. ::). andrew. ps. great topic though. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Annette on Nov 4th, 2007, 8:50pm Although I am now thoroughly enlightened on the subject of carrots I do have a couple of things I would like to comment about the video though, and yes I did watch it from beginning to end all in one go. I know I had a boring Sunday evening ::) I disagree with the OP that it is an enlightening viewpoint. It was very one sided and it was cleverly done technically to " hypnotise" the viewers into seeing their particular viewpoint. In fact, it was trying to do exactly the same thing it was critisizing ie brainwashing people into believing one thing or another! It criticised the church for using so call theological stories and events to "create" Jesus Christ to make people believe in something that may not have existed. Yet the movie itself used hypnotic techniques well established with modern multimedia features to do the same thing. Did you notice how it showed many hypnotising pictures from swirls of colours to flashing lights to insidious background music while the narrator spoke his view to you? If you look away from the screen and only listen to the speech you will start to spot many holes in his "arguments". I can actually sit here and pick the whole thing apart if I wish to do so purely as an academic exercise, and my arguments would not be any less convincing than the movie itself. However, it will be like writing a thesis and I will bore everyone to death so I wont. However, whoever would like to discuss it more in depth please feel free to email or PM me. The one other thing I would like to point out though, is the fact that all the datas they presented throughout the video were not comprehensive but rather selected just to illustrate a certain point. For eg, they compared the similarities between Horus and Jesus and came to the conclusion that since there are so many parallel characteristic features that Jesus could not exist, that he was just a story based on Horus's story. They forgot that the story of Horus was only discovered recently by modern day archaeologists. There has been no evidence that at the time the Bible was supposedly written that there was widespread knowledge of Horus let alone who he was or what he did! In summary, it was an interesting movie clip to watch, but enlightening its definitely not. My 3 cents ! ( this is worth a little bit more than my usual 2 cents ;;D ) |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 4th, 2007, 9:56pm To those of you who actually commented on poor delusional Mikes original atheistic and totally out of context for ch.com and headaches...I have one word for ya, BUZZKILLS ! >:( The rest of us were having such a wonderful time here today on this thread, doing what we do best...laughing at (insert yer own name for Mike) and discussing the merits of: Turnips potatoes, melons, carrots( in various shapes) , Ford Pintos rear differential, and my personal favorite shrooms. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Kevin_M on Nov 4th, 2007, 10:34pm http://www.worldofstock.com/thumbs/PFO4319.jpg Us three are here to speak for the peas. There was no consensus in the pods to be a part today because we usually get shoved under the mashed potatoes or thrown in with the carrots. However, we wish to let you know we are ready Linda, frozen and bagged to do our CH duty when called upon. Just letting you know we peas didn't split. These split peas like to ham it up, though. :-* http://www.hri.ac.uk/enveg/data/species/pi-sat/spl-pea.jpg |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by assaultme on Nov 4th, 2007, 10:37pm All we are saying, is give peas a chance...John Lennon [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Kevin_M on Nov 4th, 2007, 10:42pm LOL!!! Dave! ;;D Hey, we have that tune in our iPod. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by seasonalboomer on Nov 4th, 2007, 10:54pm So many vegetables have fallen out of fashion. Rutebaga, parsnips, brussel sprouts to name but a few. And why. Did we stop believing in them? Was it a conspiracy derived from their lack of "hipness". Sure a tomato is cool, but try and eat a tomato after a long winter in the root cellar. But me, I long ago began to spend my time more productively , not looking for more evidence that the produce section at my local market was going to the corn on the cob crowd, but hanging out where people still appreciate the beauty and tanginess of pickled beets. Bless the farmers everywhere. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Annette on Nov 4th, 2007, 10:59pm on 11/04/07 at 22:54:28, seasonalboomer wrote:
Scott brought up my favourite subject here, is a tomato a vegetable or a fruit? I have looked it up in various places but no one seems to really know what it really is. Some says its a vegetable, many insist that it is a fruit. Me ? I dont know, I am confused, as often :P What say you ? |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Kevin_M on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:03pm Food for thought? |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by assaultme on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:05pm on 11/04/07 at 22:59:37, Annette wrote:
OMG, now there is a controversial topic. I'm almost afraid to state my opinion due to the severe backlash it may create...but I think it is a vegetable. Here is my research data I have collected over my 35 enlightened years of tomato study: http://www.wisconsinfreshproduce.org/vegfacts/Tomato.htm |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by George_J on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:12pm on 11/04/07 at 22:54:28, seasonalboomer wrote:
I wasn't aware that brussel sprouts had become passe' , but I am an innocent in the wilderness of vegetable fashion. I do know that my daughter refuses to eat "those nasty little cabbages", despite my gentle encouragement....(child, child, child--they are no nastier than raw oysters, after all, and a person can easily swallow them without chewing, in the same way that a snake swallows a mouse) . It's no good having a child unless you can mess with their heads a little, after all. Best, George |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Kevin_M on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:12pm There is a conspiracy theory that that the makers of V8 were going to call it V7+1fruit. But the tomato was named a vegetable by the big conglomerate vegetable companies unions for the sake of marketing. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by assaultme on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:16pm Scott, I have no idea why some vegetables fell out of favour. Interestingly, here is a few beet facts: The first one is useful if you are concerned about the color of your urine: "Both the root and the leaves of beets are edible. The bright red pigment that gives beets their characteristic color is betacyanin. When some people eat beets, their bodies are unable to break down the betacyanin and as a result, their urine becomes pink." This little factoid should be of interest to the womenfolk I think: "What to Look for When Purchasing Choose beets that are firm and well-shaped. Avoid those that are shriveled or soft or larger than 2 ½ inches in diameter as they will likely be woody." |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by assaultme on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:17pm [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] George & Kevin [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Kevin_M on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:20pm Well us peas don't make pee green. just a little bed pee once in awhile. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by assaultme on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:22pm More interesting factoids for the ladies as it relates to cauliflower: "What to Look for When Purchasing cauliflower Look for firm, compact heads about 6 inches in diameter. A 6-inch head will serve 4-6 people Avoid heads that are soft, or have brown spots. " |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Kevin_M on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:29pm No posting from them, wonder if the the ears of corn are listening. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Annette on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:40pm on 11/04/07 at 23:29:35, Kevin_M wrote:
I dont think they can hear a thing now Kevin, last I heard their ears popped .... |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Kevin_M on Nov 4th, 2007, 11:52pm on 11/04/07 at 22:54:28, seasonalboomer wrote:
Rutebagas and parsnips refuse to become enlightened, just keep their head buried in the ground. Brussel sprouts get a little head about things but they're still green, still babes. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Jimi on Nov 5th, 2007, 12:00am What witty people are we. I have been enlightened tonight. Thanks for the laughs. :) |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Callico on Nov 5th, 2007, 12:02am on 11/04/07 at 22:37:04, assaultme wrote:
Visualize Whirled Peas!!! |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Callico on Nov 5th, 2007, 12:05am on 11/04/07 at 22:59:37, Annette wrote:
A tomato is a fruit, and a rather juicy one at that! It grows on a vine, and has its seeds on the inside. At one time it was considered to be poisonous, and was avoided at all costs. jc |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Annette on Nov 5th, 2007, 12:07am Rutebagas and parsnips are secretly planning a conspiracy against the tomatoes. I heard they were rather upset about tomatoes joining their rank as a vegetable. They dont believe tomatoes have what it take to be a vegetable, the roots just dont go back deep enough apparently. The latest development on this is potatoes have also joined in, they have now all gone underground in their attempt to fight against the last decision of the big conglomerate vegetable companies unions. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by nani on Nov 5th, 2007, 12:14am on 11/05/07 at 00:05:29, Callico wrote:
Tomatoes are nightshades, as is belladonna. From Wikipedia: Deadly nightshade (Atropa belladonna), also known as belladonna, dwale, Banewort, Devil's Cherries, Naughty Man's Cherries, Divale, Black Cherry, Devil's Herb, Great Morel, and Dwayberry, is a well-known perennial herbaceous plant, with leaves and berries that are highly toxic and hallucinogenic. It is in the nightshade family (Solanaceae), which it shares with potatoes, tomatoes, eggplants, jimsonweed, tobacco, goji, and chili peppers. In addition, Solanum nigrum is also called Deadly nightshade. I love tomatoes. 8) |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Kirk on Nov 5th, 2007, 2:04am AAHHHH NUTS And what does it have to do with his receding hairline anyway? [smiley=smokin.gif] |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Annette on Nov 5th, 2007, 2:09am His hairline wasnt receding, it was just Helen showing Linda how to wake someone up with velcrow. Apparently there wasnt enough hair for a Brazillian so they had to go all the way to the top ... |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by LeLimey on Nov 5th, 2007, 4:30am Gotta love those brazil nuts eh girls?! ;;D As it happens I love vegetables and Rutabaga (Swede!), parsnips and Paul are particular favourites. I would have added ol' Ting Tong to that list but I'm still unsure as to whether he's a vegetable or a fruit... |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by LeLimey on Nov 5th, 2007, 4:31am on 11/05/07 at 00:14:57, nani wrote:
NOBODY TELL JASPER!! I'd never get a tomato left for me again! Humph! |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by zwibbs/Scott on Nov 5th, 2007, 6:20am What's wrong with Pintos? I had one in College---It was a chick magnet ! |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by LeLimey on Nov 5th, 2007, 6:24am pinto's as in beans??? sheesh - and I thought I was easy to please ::) |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Brewcrew on Nov 5th, 2007, 7:13am on 11/05/07 at 00:05:29, Callico wrote:
But so does a cucumber. Is it a fruit? |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by zwibbs/Scott on Nov 5th, 2007, 7:17am The cucumber is a creeping vine that roots in the ground and grows up trellises or other supporting frames, wrapping around ribbing with thin, spiraling tendrils. The plant has large leaves that form a canopy over the fruit. The fruit is roughly cylindrical, elongated, with tapered ends, and may be as large as 60 cm long and 10 cm in diameter. Cucumbers grown to be eaten fresh (called slicers) and those intended for pickling (called picklers) are similar. Having an enclosed seed and developing from a flower, cucumbers are scientifically classified as fruits. Much like tomatoes and squash, however, their sour-bitter flavor contributes to cucumbers being perceived, prepared and eaten as vegetables. It should be noted that vegetable is a purely culinary term and as such there is no conflict in classifying cucumber as both a fruit and a vegetable. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Brewcrew on Nov 5th, 2007, 7:27am on 11/05/07 at 07:17:31, zwibbs/Scott wrote:
Well, that clears THAT up. Thanks, Zwibby! The following really concerns me, however: Quote:
This is how conspiracies get started. I will never be the same again. You have turned my world upside down. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Mosaicwench on Nov 5th, 2007, 8:02am on 11/05/07 at 07:17:31, zwibbs/Scott wrote:
Then a strawberry does not fit this classification because it has seeds on the outside. So what is it? I'm so unenlightened. And if anyone is interested I have a recipe called Cream of 7 Root soup that uses most, if not all, of the root cellar veggies. Makes for healthy bodies and enlightened souls. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Redd on Nov 5th, 2007, 8:12am That is a silly question Pat, I'm always interested in new recipes. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by LeLimey on Nov 5th, 2007, 8:29am on 11/05/07 at 07:17:31, zwibbs/Scott wrote:
yeah yeah yeah - what he said. We all know what the best bit is though. They stay hard for a week if you keep 'em in the fridge :) |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by LeLimey on Nov 5th, 2007, 8:30am Pat I want that recipe too - I love soup! |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by zwibbs/Scott on Nov 5th, 2007, 8:42am COLD STRAWBERRY SOUP 1 1/2 c. water 3/4 c. light-bodied red wine (rose) 1/2 c. sugar 2 tbsp. fresh lemon juice 1 stick cinnamon 2 qt. strawberries, hulled and pureed (reserve a few for garnish) 1 c. heavy cream 1/4 c. dairy sour cream Combine water, wine, sugar, lemon juice and cinnamon stick in a 5-quart saucepan. Boil, uncovered, about 17 minutes, stirring constantly. Add strawberry puree and continue boiling, stirring frequently. Discard cinnamon stick and cool cooked mixture. Whip cream and stir in sour cream. Fold into strawberry mixture. Refrigerate several hours. When ready to serve, garnish with reserved whole strawberries. Yield: approximately 8 cups. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by seasonalboomer on Nov 5th, 2007, 8:47am on 11/05/07 at 08:42:28, zwibbs/Scott wrote:
Leave out the sour cream and the whole cooking thing, add ice cream, and you'd have a heckuva strawberry milkshake. Scott ;) |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Mrs Deej on Nov 5th, 2007, 9:15am LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! You've got to be kidding me....you all just spent the last three pages talking about vegetables? WOW :o Was the weekend boring, or what?! LOL ;) Avid vegetable eater, Steph |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by zwibbs/Scott on Nov 5th, 2007, 9:24am on 11/05/07 at 09:15:01, Mrs Deej wrote:
This is very important stuff !!! :P |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Melissa on Nov 5th, 2007, 9:25am on 11/05/07 at 09:15:01, Mrs Deej wrote:
Nope. Just enlightening. :) |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by George_J on Nov 5th, 2007, 9:26am on 11/05/07 at 09:15:01, Mrs Deej wrote:
I don't think it's over yet. We haven't distinguished between drupes, pomes, and berries yet--and that can take a very long time, what with accompanying recipes. Sooner or later, someone's going to go all metaphysical on us, and we'll be talking about whether the classification of growing things into "fruits" and "vegetables" is real, or a mere dualistic artifact. Stuff like that seems to happen here. Best, George |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Mrs Deej on Nov 5th, 2007, 9:33am ;;D Honestly, It just goes to show what kind of spirit we have around here. If people can sit around and talk about fruits and vegetables all weekend long...that's gotta be a great friend!!!!! Carry on..... ;;D maybe i can get my husband to read this and he might start eating his veggies..... :-/ |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Redd on Nov 5th, 2007, 9:48am And yet, not one person has mentioned the metaphysical properties/ scientific classification of Asparagus. Oh the in-humanity of it all. :'( |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by vietvet2tours on Nov 5th, 2007, 9:53am on 11/05/07 at 09:48:10, Redd wrote:
Makes yer pee smell funny. Potter |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Redd on Nov 5th, 2007, 9:58am on 11/05/07 at 09:53:25, vietvet2tours wrote:
Maybe so, but it sure tastes good with a little butter and salt and pepper. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by LeLimey on Nov 5th, 2007, 10:04am Never eat asparagus if you are intending making your ex a coffee on the following day. They can tell. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by vietvet2tours on Nov 5th, 2007, 10:05am on 11/05/07 at 09:58:22, Redd wrote:
I didn't say it tasted bad.You asked about the metaphysical properties/ scientific classification of Asparagus. Potter the great Aspergris and morel hunter |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Mosaicwench on Nov 5th, 2007, 10:06am Asparagus . . . a fascinating topic, indeed! There seems to be some dissent in the scientific community as to the asparagus/urine smell correlation. One faction says ALL urine smells funky after eating asparagus and only 20 percent of the population have the gene that allows them to smell the difference. The other side says only 20 percent of the people who eat asparagus and take the time to ponder it can smell the difference in their own urine. Enlightening! Cream Of 7 Root Soup 1 each onion; chopped 1 each rutabaga; chopped 2 cloves garlic; chopped 2 each kohlrabi; chopped 2 each turnips; chopped 2 each parsnips; chopped 2 each carrots; chopped 2 each potatoes; peeled and cut up 1/4 cup butter 1/4 cup flour 1 dash parsley 1 dash nutmeg; to taste 1 cup milk; (or to taste) Saute onion and garlic in a little butter or oil 'til tender. Chop and peel all veggies, add to pot with garlic and onions, and cover with water. Cook 'til veggies are tender. Season with salt, pepper and spices. Puree entire pot until only small chunks remain. Add cream (to taste) and serve. Great for cool fall afternoons. Yield: 6 servings http://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/haushalt/d030.gif |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by nani on Nov 5th, 2007, 10:07am I prefer asparagus steamed and served at room temperature with some balsamic vinegrette. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Redd on Nov 5th, 2007, 10:08am on 11/05/07 at 10:04:01, LeLimey wrote:
Lets hope the coffee I spewed onto the keyboard here at the office doesn't render it unuseable. I can just see the bite out of my paycheck that will be.... [smiley=crackup.gif] [smiley=crackup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Paul98 on Nov 5th, 2007, 10:15am on 11/04/07 at 10:55:30, Jonny wrote:
He said root...he he he ;;D -P. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Mosaicwench on Nov 5th, 2007, 10:19am Here's another question I've pondered over the years . . . Is corn a grain or a vegetable? We use it in corn meal for tortillas, corn bread, chips, and hush puppies . . . . We use it as a vegetable both on its vehicle (the cob) and off . . . We distill it in some fashion to make soda pop, corn syrup, and any number of other sweeteners . . . We cook any number of fried items in the oil it produces . . . . and now are able to use it as fuel itself in some vehicles as well as adding it to gasoline (against our wishes here in Wisconsin) . . . . All hail the mighty CORN! |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Redd on Nov 5th, 2007, 10:45am Quote:
I'm getting flashbacks of Bevis and Butthead.... <going hide under my desk till the horror disipates> |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Brewcrew on Nov 5th, 2007, 10:48am on 11/05/07 at 10:08:45, Redd wrote:
Not to worry, Pegg. They cost about $5-10. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Brewcrew on Nov 5th, 2007, 10:49am on 11/05/07 at 10:45:14, Redd wrote:
I am the Great Cornholio! I need TP for my b*nghole! |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Brewcrew on Nov 5th, 2007, 10:50am on 11/05/07 at 10:19:17, Mosaicwench wrote:
And best of all, we make it into sour mash whiskey! |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by LeLimey on Nov 5th, 2007, 10:53am I love corn - and I have never EVER seen anyone who can eat it as fast or as neatly as Paul - he's like a flaming machine :o |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Brewcrew on Nov 5th, 2007, 11:00am I've been told that you rarely see corn served in Europe. It's considered pig food. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by seasonalboomer on Nov 5th, 2007, 11:35am on 11/05/07 at 11:00:51, Brewcrew wrote:
But you will see parts of the pig served that we wouldn't fertilize corn with.... |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 5th, 2007, 11:46am May I interrupt this fasinating and enlightening diatribe on the subject of vegtables for just one min.?? Quote:
Zwibby, the Ford Pinto was never, and will never be a chick magnet. O.K. Thanks for letting me insert that, carry on folks. Has anyone mentioned all the varieties of squash yet... |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Rosybabe on Nov 5th, 2007, 11:56am Beets!! I love beets! ;;D |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Melissa on Nov 5th, 2007, 11:57am I LOVE SQUASH!!!!!! :D Especially the acorn squash, halved, baked in the oven with butter & brown sugar. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 5th, 2007, 12:23pm I'm with you Rosy on the beets. But they have to be pickled. I wonder if that means they were drunk when they were put in the tin can.? Everything you wanted to know about squash but were afraid to ask: http://whatscookingamerica.net/squash.htm |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Brewcrew on Nov 5th, 2007, 12:28pm on 11/05/07 at 11:57:27, Melissa wrote:
Try substituting parmesan cheese for the brown sugar (still use plenty of butter - you are a Wisconsinite). Yummy. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Melissa on Nov 5th, 2007, 12:29pm on 11/05/07 at 12:28:35, Brewcrew wrote:
Oh blecch!! I like mine sweet. Can't stand it made any other way. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Redd on Nov 5th, 2007, 12:51pm Sweet Dumpling squash needs no brown sugar at all. They are "sweet" all on their own. Just a pinch of nutmeg and butter and they are perfect! I can make a meal on them alone on the winter months. Just don't ask me where I store my elastic waist slacks. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Redd on Nov 5th, 2007, 12:53pm on 11/05/07 at 10:49:54, Brewcrew wrote:
Just when I thought it safe to come out from under my desk. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Rosybabe on Nov 5th, 2007, 1:20pm I like eggplants too and with this recipe they taste absolutely delicious!! Dolmeh Bademjan Stuffed Eggplant. Ingredients 4 Medium eggplants ¼ Cup yellow split peas 1 Cup water 1 Pound ground beef 1 Large onion 2 Tablespoons butter ¼ Teaspoon nutmeg ½ Teaspoon cinnamon 2 Tablespoons chopped parsley 1 Teaspoon salt ½ Teaspoon pepper ¼ Cup toasted pine nuts 1 Cup tomato sauce 3 Tablespoons lemon juice Process 1 Wash eggplant. Remove pulp with apple corer. Wash inside of the eggplants well. Salt inside and let stand for one half hour allowing the bitterness to go away 2 Cook split peas in water until soft. 3 Sauté beef and onions in butter. When all pink is gone, combine with split peas. 4 Add nutmeg, cinnamon and parsley, salt, pepper and pine nuts. 5 Rinse eggplants again under faucet to remove all salt. 6 Fill eggplants with mixture and place in a 350 degree oven, topping with tomato sauce and lemon juice. Cover and cook for 30 minutes. 7 Serve warm or at room temperature with yogurt. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Kevin_M on Nov 5th, 2007, 2:24pm on 11/05/07 at 11:46:17, Linda_Howell wrote:
http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/car-crush-stack-wide-0407.jpg http://whatsthatbug.com/images/centipede_satan.jpg http://girlstalkinsmack.com/cutenews/data/upimages/katharine_gg.jpg |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Callico on Nov 5th, 2007, 3:01pm on 11/05/07 at 14:24:00, Kevin_M wrote:
She does look good squashed in her little sister's dress. [smiley=yikes.gif] |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by JenniferD on Nov 5th, 2007, 8:04pm I've been laughing my ass off over this whole thread, and what does the spouse say? "There's something WRONG with you people!" ROFLMAO!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by assaultme on Nov 5th, 2007, 9:02pm on 11/05/07 at 14:24:00, Kevin_M wrote:
Yum !!! I'm sleepy....I shall lay me head between these two pillows....schwing!!! |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 5th, 2007, 9:17pm Of course there's something wrong with us....we're drain bamaged. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by midwestbeth on Nov 5th, 2007, 9:41pm What about Spaghetti Squash? Halve, cook and sprinkle with butter, garlic and parmasan cheese...............Yummy!! Beth |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Melissa on Nov 5th, 2007, 9:51pm Zucchini anyone? I make THAT shredded & fried with the parmesan cheeze. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Brewcrew on Nov 5th, 2007, 9:56pm on 11/05/07 at 15:01:11, Callico wrote:
http://www.dml.indiana.edu/images/notes2.gif Little sister don't you do what your big sister does. |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by assaultme on Nov 5th, 2007, 10:06pm Elvis...but he didn't write it..... |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by zwibbs/Scott on Nov 6th, 2007, 5:25am on 11/05/07 at 11:46:17, Linda_Howell wrote:
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by Brewcrew on Nov 6th, 2007, 5:57am on 11/05/07 at 22:06:54, assaultme wrote:
Nope. Doc Pomus and Mort Shuman did. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Enlightening viewpoint Post by jimmers on Nov 6th, 2007, 7:17am on 11/05/07 at 21:41:16, midwestbeth wrote:
Absolutely right Beth! Its the bomb! Where the hell are my car keys? |
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