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Title: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by DJ on Oct 18th, 2007, 7:09pm Well, I've had enough of this one. We've been putting up with shit from this guy for far too long and he's finally crossed the line. I will ask each and every one of you that if you EVER see any resemblance of this person back on this board that you send me the link to the post so I can take care of it. I usually don't post personal emails on this public board but it's my website and I will not stand for personal attacks on me and my family!!!! You don't fuck with the webmaster of a website and expect to get away with this kind of bullshit!! -----Original Message----- From: DJ Sent: Oct 15, 2007 11:53 PM To: sozialarbeiter1@earthlink.net Subject: Welcome back! So I see you have found your way back? You are from Queens this month, huh? Which gender are you going to pick? From: J.A. Sckorohod, LMSW [mailto:sozialarbeiter1@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:06 AM To: Deej@clusterheadaches.com Subject: Fw: Re: Welcome back!-Send Response to Different email Address IP Address: 74.34.221.13 I am having problems with my Earthlink mail. If you are going to respond, please send your response to LMSW75@aol.com. From: "J.A. Sckorohod, LMSW" Sent: Oct 17, 2007 9:55 AM To: DJ Subject: Re: Welcome back! Dear DJ, Let me tell you something: I find that there are many good posts on the website that can be helpful for those with CH. As for myself, having had chronic CH for 14 years, tried every medicine in the book (I will not try mushrooms or LSD or other hallucinogenics) and underwent DBS surgery two years ago in Kiel, Germany (which, unfortunately, did not work), I think that I have a right to be a member of the OUCH board. I have never personally attacked anyone nor used obscene language in my posts, yet I am forced to use different names to get back on because you continually remove me from the board. I do not recommend bizarre treatments for CH nor the use of illegal drugs-and I find it interesting that the use of illegal drugs is encouraged by certain members without any valid scientific proof that they work and the fact that some of the members of that alternative treatment committee are from Harvard does not impress me-remember Timothy Leary? It appears that the most common objections to some of my posts have to do with my condemnation of racism, most recently against "illegal" Hispanics. Just yesterday your friend Jonny posted several links which were nothing more than racist rants and he posted one, no doubt because he didn't read it, that totally disproved the allegations that Governor Schwarzenegger signed legislation forbidding the use of "mom" and "dad" in public schools and allowed male and female students to use either male or female toilet, even if a member of the opposite sex were in it at the time-all totally false, just as the rantings about Hispanics being responsible for some fictional "crime wave" taking place in LA as well as the nonsense about 95% of outstanding homicide warrents were for Hispanics. Despite this nonsense that is published on the site, I do not see you, as the site administrator, taking any action against these false, racist rants. A number of people who have had the DBS surgery have been driven off the board because of the vicious attacks made against them-if you don't know, only one person has died after the operation, in Belgium 4 years ago and the cause of her death is not known-yet you allow to be published inaccurate posts about the surgery and, repeating myself, people have been driven off the board just because they had the surgery and wanted to share their experience. These people who had the operation made a very difficult choice and in my book are heros, but on the board they are either liars or idiots. Your friend Jonny is one of the worst offenders when it comes to inaccuracy, racist posts and use of obscene language. I am sure that if I posted some of the things that he did I would be thrown off the site. I don't understand you. The fact that you established and administered the website tells me that you want to help people who have our horrible condition, yet you allow unsubtantiated information to be published as fact, allow personal attacks upon people who have done nothing more than share their experience with certain forms of treatment, particularly DBS surgery and allow blatently racist postings. You now have a young child-do you want him to grow up to be a racist? I wonder how Antonio and Chuck, two very decent people from what I can tell from their writings, put up with the vicious anti-homosexual "jokes"-I wonder about the mental state of those who post such things. A few months ago Jonny published several homophobic pictures that showed a man with a (poorly, I might add) erect penis in his mouth, accompanied by more anti-homosexual postings. In my field of psychology, one would interpret such postings and pictures as a possible indication that the person who made them has some serious personal problems with the issue and in any case has some serious personal problems. I recommend to you to look at what is being posted on the site and decide if it is appropriate, decent and does anything to help those with CH, or is the "General" category a place where people can write whatever their depraved minds desire to. I will end here. I urge you to take a deep, long look at what is going on with the board and think about making some changes. Perhaps if you announced that no more racist or homophobic or personal attacks will be allowed would be a good start. I'm sure that you would lose some members, but I think that the quality of the board would improve. If you read German, or know someone who does, check out CK-Wissen, the German CH site. They put out good information and I haven't seen any personal or racist attacks posted there. I would like to hear back from you and would like your opinion on what I have written. You have done a lot of good in helping people with our illness and I think that you can do more by eliminating the racism and other falsehoods that get published. Obviously you cannot check everything out, but some things are too obvious to miss. By the way, congatualtions of the birth of your child to you and your wife. From: DJ <deej@clusterheadaches.com> To: sozialarbeiter1@earthlink.net; LMSW75@aol.com Sent: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 8:44 pm Subject: RE: Re: Welcome back!-Send Response to Different email Address No, let me tell you something: You are a hypocrite and a liar. You cry when people give the DBS folks a hard time, but you do the exact same thing to people who try hallucinogenics. HYPOCRITE! You say you are “forced to use different names to get back on because you continually remove me from the board” when you used at least FOUR different profile names before I ever touched one of your profiles… Big_OUCH, John Anatole Sckorohod, klusterkopf, and kopfschmerz. LIAR! As for the rest of your email, I don’t owe you an explanation for a goddamn thing. You don’t like it? Leave and don’t ever come back… please. And, since you obviously haven’t figured it out by the comment in your email, THIS ISN’T AN OUCH BOARD!! It is my PERSONAL WEBSITE, clusterheadaches.com! You think you have a right to be a member of the OUCH board, you probably do, but take it to them at http://www.ouch-us.org because I don’t have a thing to do with their organization. How fucking difficult is that for you to understand? DJ And by the way… don’t you EVER, EVER mention my son or how I will raise him again. From: J.A. Sckorohod, LMSW [mailto:sozialarbeiter1@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:49 PM To: Deej@clusterheadaches.com Subject: Fw: Re: Welcome back!-Send Response to Different email Address IP Address: 74.34.221.13 I thought that you were a reasonable person, but from this answer that you sent I have nothing but pity for you and your family. I hope that your son does not grow up to be like his father-if OUCH is your personal board, then obviously you agree with the same racist, ignorant views that some of your friends publish. By the way, I have never attacked people who use hallucinogens and if I have, show me the posts. You have quite a temper-I hope that you do not act it out on your wife and child. I will post when I feel like it and if others don't like what I have to say then they can disagree. YOUR site is full of racist posts-why don't you do something about that? Is your silence the same as agreement? You don't owe me an explanation for anything, but it would have been civilized to answer some of my questions without going into an irrational rant, just like your buddy Jonny, Mr. Patriot, who never served a day in the military, who was arrested and convicted by the courts and who has the mind of a 10 year old, judging from his posts-again, I thought that you were a reasonable person, and maybe you are and just had to get your rant out. Perhaps in the future we can have a more reasonable discussion. From: lmsw75@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 6:18 AM To: Deej@clusterheadaches.com Subject: Childish IP Address: 74.34.221.13 Someone, and I suspect that idiot Jonny, has gone into my profile, changed it as well as my password and thus I can no longer post. He also published my IP address and this issue I will take up with the FCC. I am surprised that you would let something like this be done and I really hope that it wasn't you. In any case, I will file my complaints with Washington and we will see what happens. I would appreciate an answer from you about this before I make my complaint; if not, then let the chips fall where they may. From: J.A. Sckorohod, LMSW sozialarbeiter1@earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:35 AM To: Deej@clusterheadaches.com Subject: Re: Welcome back! IP Address: 74.34.221.13 Thank you and your fuck buddy, Jonny, for making it impossible for me to get on the board. I did not think that you would sink so low (I knew that Jonny would). I have made private contact with the people whom I want to, so I no longer need to post. I feel sorry for your wife-I'm sure that she will be divorce #2 and I especially feel sorry for your son. He will grow up in a household full of racism, no doubt domestic violence and will probably suffer from trauma the rest of his life. Although I usually do not use profanity, I will make an exception here and tell you to shove your board up your ass-it will no doubt fit as I am sure that you and Jonny take turns as bottoms. You are a thoroughly disgusting person-racist, intolerant, have a need to control others and enjoy seeing others get hurt. I seriously wonder how you can have CH and remain in the AF for so long. Goodbye and may you have a short and miserable life. My sympathies to your wife and child. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Maffumatt on Oct 18th, 2007, 7:18pm The guy isn't right in the head. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Jonny on Oct 18th, 2007, 7:28pm Bye bye, ass-hole! Nobody talks about DJ's family OR fucking my mother! We ALL will run you down if you ever show up again you sick bastard, get some fucking help.....your brain is damaged. ............................The KING ;;D |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by purpleydog on Oct 18th, 2007, 8:01pm This guy clearly has some mental problems, what an idiot. I hope he reads this: John, or whatever the hell your name is, why do you waste so much time and energy from your life trying to fight people here, hating people, holding grudges and being upset that you are banned? You will have a short life from this negative energy, moron. If you hate this site so much, then go buy a domain, host it, and pay for your own damn website. Then you won't have to worry about what goes on here, you crazy fucking idjit. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by George_J on Oct 18th, 2007, 8:01pm I doubt that the putz can read this, since he's been blocked. So I won't say the things to him I'd like to. Count me in on the lookout, Deej. Best, George |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Brewcrew on Oct 18th, 2007, 8:06pm My, my, my...what a twisted wad of soiled panties. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Kevin_M on Oct 18th, 2007, 8:07pm Quote:
This thread is just one display of what he says he doesn't do, as in every persona, and as he left the board last time. Not that, not here. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Jonny on Oct 18th, 2007, 9:02pm on 10/18/07 at 19:09:45, DJ wrote:
Uh oh, I better get the lawyer Howard Stern used to fight the FCC......LMMFAO! FCC?......What a fucking putz! ;;D on 10/18/07 at 07:42:28, Vanster wrote:
Nobody talks about my Mom that way! Maybe I will have my Mom call your work, John.....yes, I do have the number. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Rosybabe on Oct 18th, 2007, 9:08pm The guy is a maniac and a compulsive liar...he must have a horrible life... |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Annette on Oct 18th, 2007, 9:09pm on 10/18/07 at 20:01:29, George_J wrote:
I thought being blocked means you cant post but can still read as guest? I have to say that he has a very clear pattern of behaviour: he would start out being nice and polite and even sound reasonable, then he would start pushing his views/ideas onto you, then if you dont agree with him he will get aggressive and abusive. The degree of the abuse escalates with time. Guess what? That is the exact psychological pattern of thinking and behaviour of a serial abuser or murderer ie a psychopath. You should watch your back if you associate with him in any way. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Ray on Oct 18th, 2007, 9:10pm Your WHOIS Search Results 74.34.221.13 Record Type: IP Address OrgName: Frontier Communications of America, Inc. OrgID: FRTR Address: 180 South Clinton AVE City: Rochester StateProv: NY PostalCode: 14646 Country: US ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.frontiernet.net:4321 NetRange: 74.32.0.0 - 74.47.255.255 CIDR: 74.32.0.0/12 NetName: FRONTIER-COMMUNICATIONS NetHandle: NET-74-32-0-0-1 Parent: NET-74-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: AUTH01.ROC.NY.FRONTIERNET.NET NameServer: AUTH.LKV.MN.FRONTIERNET.NET Comment: All abuse issues will only be responded to by the Abuse Team through the contact info found on handle ABUSE223-ARIN RegDate: 2006-01-27 Updated: 2006-12-12 RAbuseHandle: ABUSE223-ARIN RAbuseName: Abuse RAbusePhone: +1-866-474-7662 RAbuseEmail: abuse@frontiernet.net RTechHandle: ZF47-ARIN RTechName: Frontier Communications RTechPhone: 1-866-474-7662 RTechEmail: ipadmin@frontiernet.net OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE223-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Abuse OrgAbusePhone: +1-866-474-7662 OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@frontiernet.net OrgTechHandle: ZF47-ARIN OrgTechName: Frontier Communications OrgTechPhone: 1-866-474-7662 OrgTechEmail: ipadmin@frontiernet.net |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Ray on Oct 18th, 2007, 9:16pm If, in fact, this sheister has a Licenced Masters [degree] in Social Work (LMSW) as claimed, I pity those who seek "his" help. I'm not impressed by initials or degrees, as this "person" demonstrates his hypocracy and ignorance in his posts. Hey Jonny, he seems to really have taken an interest in you! Ray |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by john_d on Oct 18th, 2007, 9:19pm wow, he's mental. Interesting how he get's uglier and uglier the more pressure is applied. Seems to be the signature of most of the worst trolls. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Jonny on Oct 18th, 2007, 9:23pm on 10/18/07 at 21:09:56, Annette wrote:
Heres another PM.....LOL on 10/18/07 at 06:17:06, Vanster wrote:
Just who needs the therapist?....LOL ;;D |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Jonny on Oct 18th, 2007, 11:16pm on 10/18/07 at 21:16:55, Ray wrote:
Thats only because I am the only one that will slide it up his internet ass and challenge his anal intent! |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by George_J on Oct 18th, 2007, 11:32pm Quote:
I wonder if the doofus realizes he's broadcasting it whenever he sends one of his stupid e-mails to someone? He's sent them to plenty of people. And people talk to each other. It ain't a secret identity. Good luck with the FCC. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by ClusterChuck on Oct 19th, 2007, 12:54am Quote:
Hmmmm ... I guess I missed the "vicious anti-homosexual" posts! DAMN, that is what happens when I don't read EVERY post, in EVERY section ... SHAME on me! BUT, I WILL agree there have been some jokes directed at me, about my homosexuality ... and they are usually funny as hell!!! But, let's face it ... I am openly gay ... It is not a secret ... Oh, and now that I think of it, there are also jokes about women being females ... and about men being men ... and about people who have tattoos ... about people who have piercings ... about people who are bald ... about people who have hair ... about people who are young ... about people who are old ... about cats ... about dogs ... about guinea pigs ... about cars ... about houses ... about parts of the country, or world ... about political beliefs ... about religion ... about the color of someone's eyes ... about left handed people ... about right handed people ... (have I left any out?) YUP!!! This is a TERRIBLE place to be! ALL of those MUST be eliminated! Heaven forbid if we should laugh and have fun! Oh, and John (I know you are here as a guest and reading this), it may be a surprise to you to know, that I have met Jonny in real life, several times, and I consider him a dear friend. Someone I can rely on. Someone who I love DEARLY (as a brother) and whom I would place my life in his hands ... and KNOW that it is safe. He would do his utmost to make sure that I was safe, as I would do the exact same for him. ... And you obviously have absolutely NO CONCEPT of who is a decent human being and who isn't. Deej, his darling wife, and most everyone on this site, are good, kind, decent human beings. Deej being one of the most amazing, kindhearted, wonderful, thoughtful, considerate human beings on the face of this earth! Go get the professional help that you so obviously need! SHEESH! Chuck |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by lexi919 on Oct 19th, 2007, 2:07am http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r81/MT240SX/ownt.gif |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by BarbaraD on Oct 19th, 2007, 6:43am As one who very seldom looses her temper - right now I'm seething at what that jerk wrote to DJ. I've passed the point of anger and am just plain MAD now! Thanks to this board (and DJ) I'm ALIVE today. Thanks to the HELPFUL people here, I'm almost SANE today! And thanks to everyone here I've got a lot of friends I didn't have 9 years ago when I thought I was alone with this horrible illness! And that's just ME -how many thousands of others feel the same way? Who the hell is he to judge anything? Thanks to DJ, we've been able to set our own pace here and discuss everything from headaches to politics, raising kids to Chuck's love life and anything else that came to mind. That's what FRIENDS do! That's also how NEW breakthrus for our illness is discovered (and how many new things have we discovered since this board has been set up?). Over the years we've had bigots come here and some of our "family" has gotten their feelings hurt and have left - later the bigots left (not soon enough), but that was just the way things happened. But this guy just keeps coming back - but this time he's gone too far - when he says these things to DJ and Jonny. If he'd even paid a "little" attention, he'd know we're very protective about our "boys" - oh we can make fun of them, but when someone else does it - WE take offense and you NEVER mess with "family" when someone puts down our own! Insofar as bringing up DJ's family -- that's just totally unacceptable -- and grounds for if I ever meet this guy he's DUST! Am I reading Ray's post right? Is this guy in Rochester NY? Haven't been there since 99 - might be time for another meeting in Dave's garage! In fact it might be time to put Dave to work - that's what he does - run's down deadbeats. Somethin' to think about. Told ya I was mad..... DJ - you go hug Steph and the boys and don't worry about this jerk. If he bothers you again - let Jonny know and we'll take care of him.... Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Jimi on Oct 19th, 2007, 7:29am DJ, can I have your baby? |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by phil_h on Oct 19th, 2007, 8:25am REALITY....this is DJ's house.....play nice,youget to stay........ SIMPLE.....thank you for letting us in your house..... phil h |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by aceserve on Oct 19th, 2007, 10:21am Wow. We have witnessed a sharp transition from passive-aggressive to twisted-wicked. DJ: Thank you for this wonderful Web site, and I am sorry that you have had to encounter this character. Best, Andrew |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by vietvet2tours on Oct 19th, 2007, 10:23am on 10/19/07 at 00:54:59, ClusterChuck wrote:
Yep ya left out us jopped off arm guys. potter |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Ghost on Oct 19th, 2007, 10:54am You also forgot the miget parties dang. you know every time i went nose to nose with the troll we would ignore, wis mission was obvious he wanted to attack a few and ignored the others. the coward would never have a meet and greet as I requested several times. I even offered to be a friend and take him hog hunting. Oh well DJ thanks for banning him and Jonny thanks for being. Everyone here even when we dissagree knows we are here for each other. I would like to once more THANK EVERY ONE HERE! You are all family and I love each and everyone of you. Mike |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Paul98 on Oct 19th, 2007, 11:47am on 10/19/07 at 07:29:04, Jimi wrote:
I think Steph would have a problem with that. [smiley=laugh.gif] Thanks Deej! -P. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Tiannia on Oct 19th, 2007, 1:10pm At this point I would pay money to see Stef and him in the same room. [smiley=deal2.gif] I think he would beg for Jonny to save him. And goddess help him is Barb got to him. [smiley=bash.gif] DJ & Jonny, I am sorry that this a$$ decided to go where he did. As a LMSW he has some serious issues. The agency that he works for would have some serious concerns that this is how he handles his private life and it is obvious that he has some serious isses that needs to be addressed. Hopefully he does not get someone within his care this hits one of these hidden triggers that he is holding and not addressing. To be very honest. I have never met either of you nor have I met 99% of the people here. But if something where to happen and I was in need of anything, from a phone call to an airplane ticket and a place to sleep, I could count of this board and the people here without question and never have a sencond thought about it. For all the bigotry that he seems to feel on this board that he seems to have found. He shoudl in fact reads all the posts and see that in one 2 people are in a pissing match and the next the same to people are giving support and care. This is a FAMILY. I am truely sorry that you do not understand what that truely means. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by LeLimey on Oct 19th, 2007, 1:43pm Good riddance to bad rubbish. He won't post again as Vanster at any rate but I'll bet money he's already back under another handle! He can't stay away. He has no one in the whole world but us. If you look in the dictionary under "loser" you'll only find him. DJ thanks for the housekeeping, you look bloody gorgeous in that french maids outfit! ;;D |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Ray on Oct 19th, 2007, 1:59pm Quote:
That is the provider of the IP address, it does NOT exactly mean that "he" lives there. I'd be willing to guess that it's a high speed connection and is served by this company. Under the right conditions, with date and time stamps, and probably a judge's order it could be traced back to him. Unless, of course, it fell under the homeland security act.... This is for informational purposes only. Ray |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by fubar on Oct 19th, 2007, 4:39pm I met DJ while he was at Stanford Hospital being carved into the man he is today. He was a real a$$hole. Of course, with him all incapacitated, I pulled his IV drip out and hit the morphine for a while, so he had a reason to be an a$$hole. Now we're BFF. John is a 'tard, and it's no big surprise what happened. He'll be back... You can't fix stupid. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf Post by MR_FLOOR on Oct 19th, 2007, 10:17pm What an A-Hole. >:(. Good riddens. Dave |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Mrs Deej on Oct 19th, 2007, 10:57pm on 10/19/07 at 13:10:53, Tiannia wrote:
It wouldn't be pretty......I'll just leave it at that! I really got pretty pissed (as you can imagine), normally I shake shit off, but he messed with my husband and my son! OH HELL NO!!! I was gonna say my peace to him, but then realized I'm bigger than that. The continual emails...still, show he's truely a sick individual, so I will pray for him instead. It really hurts my heart for people to have so much hate in their souls. Life is too short, why live that way? There's so much more. Everyone on this board knows how wonderful my husband is, to me, and our children. I'm truely blessed. :-* |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Jonny on Oct 19th, 2007, 11:28pm on 10/19/07 at 22:57:05, Mrs Deej wrote:
Oh, theres no way im going to let this slide, baby! Everyone on this board knows how wonderful he is to ALL of us!.....Hands down! Yes DJ is not God Like I call him, but I dare anyone to put up anyone that has done so much for so many people in this kind of pain!!!! Ok maybe Jesus, but I dont see DJ washing anyones feet......LMAO ;;D Continual emails?..............Heres where Jonny shines, he will regret this for the rest of his life......... [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Callico on Oct 20th, 2007, 12:35am To all here: I appreciate DJ for starting this site, and for allowing us to hae an avenue of communication that allows us to learn about our affiliction AND allows us to share ways of combatting it. However, it has grown to so much more than that. We have become a family, and as in all families no two of us are alike. Some like myself are committed Christians, others are pagans (that is not meant as a perjorative, but a descriptive), some are Jewish, some are agnostic, some are atheist, some are Hindu, and I think I have seen one or two who were Muslim, as well as others that I can't think of at the moment. Some of us are conservative in our political beliefs, some are liberal, others don't care. There are many other differences, but the one common thread is CH. ChH is what brings us together, but DJ has allowed us a forum to discuss so many other topics. Sometimes with laughter either at or with each other, other times with tears as we share each others heartaches and personal tragedies and losses. There have been times I have been offended by something on the board, but I have never been offended by another clusterhead on the board. Just because another says or does something that I don't agree with does not mean that he/she should be silenced. What I do with the offense (which in most cases is not intended to offend) is the guage of the level of maturity that I have reached. I find it very interesting to about this board that some of the ones who's beliefs, lifestyles, political persuasions, etc, are the antithesis of every thing that I stand for would be the first ones that I would turn to if I needed help. Sorry it is so long, but I didn't know how to say it any shorter other than to say thanks. Jerry PS As Den always used to say, "Take what you need and leave the rest." |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by ski2k on Oct 20th, 2007, 4:32am WOW!!!! Some people's kids!!! Be sure to invite this "man" to the next conference.... We could use a dunk tank. I too, feel like this site has saved my life. I don't usually post personal problems here, but I think in order to make my point, I will here. (I hope you're reading this "Vanster".) When I first found this site, I had only been through one cluster headache cycle with the correct diagnosis. About 14 years of suffering BEFORE that. I was JUST about to begin another cycle, when my wife decided she didn't want to deal with it anymore, and found somebody else (a "friend" of mine, of course). She booted me out of the house, moved him in, and refused to let me see my kids for a while. Then my cycle hit.... BIG TIME. Between the tears of loss, betrayal, and pain, I wanted to end everything. Luckily a life long friend let me stay with him, and let me use his "old" computer to "look up those nasty headaches you get". Thank Google I found you all!! I started reading, and found treatment options my doc had never heard of... O2 being the biggie. While you couldn't stop all my pain, it gave me hope! Knowing I could now deal with at least one of the things making me miserable, stopped me from making the biggest mistake I could have made. Since then, I've found even more treatment options, and am starting to get my ENTIRE life back on track. It's been kinda hard, but I'm doing it! Still batteling the "other" beast, but the divorce should be finalized soon ;) . In a nutshell...... Thanks DJ for keeping me alive, giving me back my sanity, and for all the great people you have put me in touch with! I'll never be able to thank you and all my CH family enough! Thank you, Adam |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by chewy on Oct 20th, 2007, 8:57am Quote:
Someone made jokes about your arm? If I find out who I'm throwing him a hard right hook! Or is that a left hook? |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by catlind on Oct 20th, 2007, 9:41am DJ has done more good than anyone. And this is NOT OUCH. He can go join ouch if he wants. DJ signed an oath, took a vow - to uphold and defend the constitution of the United States of America, against all enemies foreign and domestic. He abides by that oath with honor of the greatest value. He has given a signature in blood and offered to give up his very life to defend the freedom of speech that Vanster is using to attack DJ's family. There is nothing lower, nothing less honorable, and absolutely no integrity in a person who would do such a thing. ASide from ch.com, he has saved the lives of countless people who have a very very serious disease that kills. He has given of himself in every way a person can. His son is the luckiest child alive - because he will grow up to learn tolerance, love, patience and how to be a bigger man than those who would attack others. His son will grow to have integrity of a monumental proportion because he has parents that epitomize that very concept. People on the general board post things of all sorts of nature, and they sometimes are misinterpreted and can turn ugly. But in every case where there had been a direct personal attack with names and families being dragged in, DJ has removed the thread. DJ IS Honor and Integrity. Steph IS Love, Laughter, Patience and Beauty. Their son will be the culmination of two souls that have more to offer this earth than any person that is of the likes of vanster. And an IP address is a public information/domain, anyone cna get it from any number of sources. The FCC, FTC, FBI, CIA, NSA and any other alphabet soup agency you want to list will not even read a complaint about posting an IP address. Cat |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by vietvet2tours on Oct 20th, 2007, 10:23am on 10/20/07 at 08:57:42, chewy wrote:
I'm real susceptible to right hooks. I get beat up by five year olds. Potter |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by assaultme on Oct 20th, 2007, 10:51am on 10/19/07 at 00:54:59, ClusterChuck wrote:
Excellent point. Van never looked past the teasing we all dish out & take. Just the fact that we all take a little dogg'n once & a while and dogg each other back without too many meltdowns proves that there is very little maliciousness. As a point of fact, I have disagreed with a few people here from time to time. Even then, I get p.m.'s from those very people with truly helpful advise. They have been sincere with helpful advise like: calming down & thinking about solutions to CH, improving my posts (originally they were a big block of text and unreadable [smiley=laugh.gif], questions on treatments, personal subjects, etc. It's funny how he felt he needed to accuse you of not being a stand up guy Chuck. If he had bothered to get to know you a bit, he would have known you need no ones help....thats for damn sure. But hey, it's kool. In the end, he proved what a good bunch of people reside on this board. Remember when I told Scott I had only the intention to come here a few weeks, learn stuff...then leave ::) Well, here I am again coming here over & over. No one is twisting my arm !!! I come here because a fine bunch of strangers have saved me from serious personal distress and I find myself wanting to give back. This truly is a unique place. How many other forums can you join and be accepted as a "family member"...I cant think of any that I visit. I post some crap about my first time playing out & I get several encouraging responses....even from those here I haven't really talked to personally. It says a lot about what is going on here and the people who are here !!! Anyways, I am happy to be here and expect that if I cause trouble here, DJ with trash me out. Just like any other social situation....you step over the line, someone calls you on it. Regards, Dave |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by assaultme on Oct 20th, 2007, 10:58am on 10/20/07 at 10:23:49, vietvet2tours wrote:
I don't know about all that Potter. I was thinking if someone messed with you, you could just slam the hook in the back of someones skull and take em' for a scrape down your driveway [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Brewcrew on Oct 20th, 2007, 11:08am on 10/20/07 at 10:51:37, assaultme wrote:
He couldn't do that, he's a pathalogical butthole. I'm glad he's gone. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by john_d on Oct 20th, 2007, 11:13am If you wonder what an LMSW is... http://www.op.nysed.gov/lmsw.htm I am thinking he just goes anti-social when he get's behind a keyboard. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by LeLimey on Oct 20th, 2007, 11:26am on 10/20/07 at 11:13:26, john_d wrote:
You wouldn't say that if YOU had had to change your phone number 'cos of the twerp phoning you incessantly.. this freak is weird wherever he is. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by nani on Oct 20th, 2007, 11:47am Thanks, Deej. You know, anyone can add letters after their name in an email account. MD, PhD, MSW, LMSW, etc.... I don't care if he genuinely has letters or not... he's a putz. A potentially dangerous putz. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by john_d on Oct 20th, 2007, 11:53am on 10/20/07 at 11:26:04, LeLimey wrote:
Bummer, you gave him your phone number? Sorry, I wasn't justifying or excusing him in anyway. Just commenting on the irony that this nutjob has that job; I figure he has to keep his cool while working? But then again, maybe he's some poor social case's living nightmare. |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by LeLimey on Oct 20th, 2007, 11:57am To explain how he had my phone number, he was a member of OUCH UK (until they had to ban him for the same behaviour he uses here) I ran a fundraising thing for them for a while so my contact details at that time were published in the OUCH magazine and that was how he got them. I never actually "gave" them to him. I know you weren't excusing him John, I just wanted to explain this one IS an arsebiscuit wherever he is ::) |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Emily on Oct 20th, 2007, 5:56pm Being fairly new here (and loving being a part of this), it amazes me how come people can behave in such a way when they clearly have NO intention of using the site positively. Just to echo some of the others here, I wouldn't be coping the same without this site. It is keeping me on a even keel and helping me to deal with this life changing condition that we all share. Thank god for DJ! Keep up the good work. Em PS - I have a trained guard dog at my disposal... Just say the word! [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by thebbz on Oct 20th, 2007, 6:56pm Good riddance. Thanks DJ. You too "Jonny troll basher" thebb |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by BarbaraD on Oct 21st, 2007, 4:39pm on 10/20/07 at 11:47:51, nani wrote:
Hey Nani, you mean I can be a real DOCTOR here -- Ok so ya'll just refer to me as DOCTOR BARB from now on -- who's to KNOW???? [smiley=huh.gif] ;;D I still want to go kick his a$$.... Hugs BD, MD PHD Whatever.... |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Tiannia on Oct 22nd, 2007, 12:58pm on 10/21/07 at 16:39:29, BarbaraD wrote:
Barb BBA... Big Bad Ass. That works well for you hun. :D hehe he has some issues. And truely needs to look at why he is on the board to begin with. All of us are here to learn to live and laugh while being forced to deal with this Life altering condition, as both sufferers and supporters. If that is not why he is here, then he does not belong coming here int he first place. It is truely sad because if he does have CH, then he is missing out on a great place of understanding and laughs. On the other hand if all he wants is to be negative, then the beast has truly warped him and I can only hope that he finds his own light to follow. Tia |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Paula on Oct 22nd, 2007, 6:54pm I was SO lucky to have found this site and all the people on it in 2000. Don't think I could have survived that cycle without the help of so many people, many are not around anymore or just come back when they need something. That is a SUPPORTING family. I don't often post. Alot of time it is because I have been afraid of people like CHTom, or John or whatever. So I am mostly a lerker, like lerker Bill. But I know if I am in trouble there is always someone who really cares. I Thank You DJ and everyone here. I have been to a few conventions and the people are even more fantastic in person. Writing is hard because sometimes its hard to express your views and have people understand. Like this ranting on and on post. All I really want to say is Thank You to DJ and SOOOOOO many on this board. Group Hug!!!!!! Love Paula |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by B14CK5H33P on Oct 23rd, 2007, 2:56pm on 10/19/07 at 13:43:42, LeLimey wrote:
HEY LADY, That's MY line. But since you already used it now I have to be creative. Shit! I'll just say... buh bye cockblister! ;;D |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by seasonalboomer on Oct 23rd, 2007, 4:23pm all I can say is that dude is a freak.... wow! talk about having some issues..... Scott |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by Sandy_C on Oct 29th, 2007, 8:01pm I think Chuck forgot about the thread about toenail fungus. Wasn't there a thread about toenail fungus? Oh, sorry, just checked, it was a thread from our troll. Same thing. Fungus and toenails just seemed to fit. Thanks Deej. Sandy |
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Title: Re: Vanster (aka CHTom, Big_OUCH, klusterkopf) Post by cootie on Nov 22nd, 2007, 6:44pm NO ONE should be judged by what goes on around them......even if it's stuff they let slide or ignore.......none of it MAKES a person who they 'really' are. No reflection Pam |
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