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(Message started by: Maffumatt on Oct 15^th, 2007, 8:46am)

Title: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Maffumatt on Oct 15^th, 2007, 8:46am

"Mom and Dad" as well as "husband and wife" have been banned from California schools under a bill signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who with his signature also ordered public schools to allow boys to use girls restrooms and locker rooms, and vice versa, if they choose.

"We are shocked and appalled that the governor has blatantly attacked traditional family values in California," said Karen England, executive director of Capitol Resource Institute.
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58130

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by JenniferD on Oct 15^th, 2007, 9:06am

So how is little Billy supposed to introduce his parents to his teacher?

"Mizz. Smith, this is my incubator and birthing unit and this is my sperm donor." ??????????

WTF IS WRONG WITH THOSE PEOPLE???!!!!!!!! >:(

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Maffumatt on Oct 15^th, 2007, 9:19am

Did you know that a 7th grade girl can get expelled for bringing an aspirin to school, yet she can tell the councilor there that she is pregnant and afraid of her dad, the school will transport her to an abortion clinic and back to school without the parents knowledge. Those people lost their mind a long time ago.

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Paul98 on Oct 15^th, 2007, 9:21am

Why is it this weird stuff almost always crops up on the left coast? In San Fran they really come up with some of the most restrictive things and yet they proclaim to be open minded.....I think their brains fell out. ;;D

-P.

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by M.R. on Oct 15^th, 2007, 10:34am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Companies_based_in_California

Companies that have home bases in California. If you use their products, write them and tell them that you will not buy their product until they A.) come out publically and denounce the law, or B.) move out of the state. Some are a little tough (AMD and Intel are both there). Because we (out-of-state) can't make them change their laws, we can affect them in their economy (which is huge). I didn't see anything on vegtables, but that may be I don't reconize the names.

My 1.38 cents

Mike

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Brewcrew on Oct 15^th, 2007, 10:43am

Anybody ever tries to tell me there's more than a dime's worth of difference between the two major parties and I'll smack 'em.

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 15^th, 2007, 11:09am

How ridiculous.
Imagine your daughter is in first grade, playing outside on recess, and she falls off the monkey bars and scrapes her knee. She starts crying because it hurts, and says "I want my Mommy". Then she gets sent to the principal's office for 'hate crimes against kids with mommys'.

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by JenniferD on Oct 15^th, 2007, 12:36pm

on 10/15/07 at 10:34:51, M.R. wrote:

not a bad idea. Would send an effective message to OUR governors by writing them and telling them that if they try to pull this crap in our states, he/she, and ANYONE they support will lose our votes. My next letter:

Governor Timothy M. Kaine
Patrick Henry Building, 3rd Floor
1111 East Broad Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Maffumatt on Oct 15^th, 2007, 2:40pm

As Hillary's book says "It takes a village to raise your kids." This is only the beginning folks.

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Guiseppi on Oct 15^th, 2007, 2:45pm

Ummm...oh yeah??? well........your momma!!!!...ummm............(Guiseppi is trying desperately to defend his state.... bear with me here)....we needed the law because it was absolutely critical that we....umm..passed a law that would...umm....be seen as an important enforcement tool to enforce...umm the tools that were like really important.

The first time I get called to a school to arrest jonny for admitting to having both a "mommy" and a "daddy"....I may just have to turn in my badge. Sigh.......

A very confused and sad Guiseppi :-[

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Rosybabe on Oct 15^th, 2007, 2:50pm

That is what California gets for electing a stupid bag of steroids for Governor... >:(

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Guiseppi on Oct 15^th, 2007, 3:07pm

Yeah????? Well my Governator can kick your governors butt!!! (There, Guiseppi has succesfully defended hs state. I feel much better now!)

Guiseppi

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by sandie99 on Oct 15^th, 2007, 3:10pm

Governator... ;;D ;;D ;;D
Thanks for that! Made me smile in a day filled with pain.

Sanna

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 15^th, 2007, 3:24pm

Man, this topic pisses me off. I don't see harm in a kid saying 'my mom', or 'my dad'.
Does this mean I won't get my annual art project geared toward Father's Day?

Kids need to learn to be PC, so the term 'Daddy' has been replaced by 'my sexual identity challenged transgendered post-op gay parent who used to be a woman but is now a man'.......of course, we need to change that new term because it is discriminatory against those who have not yet had their operation.

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Tiannia on Oct 15^th, 2007, 3:39pm

OMFGoddess. ARNOLD is not using what is left of his braincells (the steriods took a toll).

I am sure that the girls would love to have Billy and Jonny use the girls locker room. Hell it would have been good to have someone with more testosterone in mine then my PE teacher. How many kids are going to get thier asses kicked because this is allowed.

In HS there where times that I used the boys restrooms, but that was because my HS was in the hood and the principle decided that it was cheaper to paint the girls rooms black so he did not have to cover the graffitti. An the lights where usually out cause the kids dealing in them did not want to be seen easily. So I had a few guys that wher eon the foot ball team clear the bathroom for me and stand outside while I was in there. It was great to have big friends. :)

Also, as it is legal to be married while you are still in HS, what is the girl supposed to call her husband? One of my good friends in HS got married in the summer between our junior and senior years. Her "f Toy"? How will they be able to tell apart the ones that are married and not just a very *friendly* person?

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Brewcrew on Oct 15^th, 2007, 3:42pm

on 10/15/07 at 14:50:37, Rosybabe wrote:

That is what California gets for electing a stupid bag of steroids for Governor... >:(

Uh, last time I checked, governors can't pass laws all by themselves. The state legislature must be complicit as well.

Instead of "you get what you pay for," this time it's "you get what you elect."

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Tiannia on Oct 15^th, 2007, 3:47pm

Here you go Rosy.

Quote:

Schwarzie has gone round the bend. He's lost it. Now, his own kids don't have a Dad-they have a live-in middle-aged man who sleeps with their biological predecessor who gave them birth. They can just address him as "dood".

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Tiannia on Oct 15^th, 2007, 3:55pm

on 10/15/07 at 15:42:01, Brewcrew wrote:

Uh, last time I checked, governors can't pass laws all by themselves. The state legislature must be complicit as well.

Instead of "you get what you pay for," this time it's "you get what you elect."

No you are write. The law has to be approved my the state senate and house. Then it oges to the gov desk to approve or veto. The thing that seems to have pissed people off in the report is that he vetod one like this before.

I can understand part of it. But I dont think that it is clear enough to relaly work. If a male person (not going to get into the whole what makes a kids a child verses adult, because that has nada to do with age, but mentally) for example decides that they more closely identify with being a female and choces to openly take on that identity, then that person should be allowed to do that. And if the peers at school want to vote him as homecoming queen then that is up to the kids that are voting. But I dont see it really being that clear and understandable.

I dont want my daughter to get in trouble because she is whispering in the corner that she needs to call her mom to see if they can slend the night.

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by ski2k on Oct 15^th, 2007, 5:56pm

Sounds to me like it's more people who lack the testicular fortitude to call things what they are. How is calling those who ARE your mom and dad, "mom and dad" wrong? It's what they are!
How is calling a Christmas tree a "Christmas tree" wrong, if that's what it IS?? If you enjoy celebrating the holiday, but you aren't Christian, then call it whatever you want.... Just don't tell me what I HAVE to call it! If I want to call it a Blue Spruce, or a Douglas Fir, then I will, but it's not reasonable for me to ask the rest of you to do so.
I just get so sick of hearing the minority overruling the majority in this country. Yes, the minority groups have rights, but when they are allowed to let their voice overpower the rest of America, then something has gone terribly wrong.
I'd like to see the heads of local, state, and federal gov. be gotten rid of. Let us vote on all isues with a majority rule. If the majority want to have "In God we trust" removed from our currency, then so be it. Don't do it just because a couple of people are trying to make a point about their own religious beliefs!

Sorry.... Just hate the way society has let the views of the few become more important than the views of the rest of us. "We the people" has become "that guy there".

Adam

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Miss Independent on Oct 15^th, 2007, 6:13pm

on 10/15/07 at 15:07:19, Guiseppi wrote:

Yeah????? Well my Governator can kick your governors butt!!! (There, Guiseppi has succesfully defended hs state. I feel much better now!)

Guiseppi

So..... G is advocating male on female violence? hmmmmmmm

Yeah, I guess I wouldn't put it past the Governator to kick Alaska's female governor.... or Washington's... or Connecticut's.....

Lizzie, who has both a Mommy and a Daddy, and who only uses the boys' restrooms (ick!!!) at kickass concerts.

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by E-Double on Oct 15^th, 2007, 7:45pm

Ya know it would be one of those ultra conservatives to sign such a bill

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by ivanov on Oct 15^th, 2007, 8:23pm

I can not believe you are falling for this bullshit!
There is nothing in that bill that says " Mom and Dad"
are banned in public schools.

This is pure propaganda by the religious right!
Worldnetdaily is a tool for the religious right!

But don't believe me check out the bill and the fact's for yourself-

http://tinyurl.com/22uyb3

http://tinyurl.com/yvsu6h

Dan

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Redd on Oct 15^th, 2007, 8:46pm

I try to stay out of political threads. I want not to offend good people with facts that may not fit their beliefs. It can get pretty hairy to interject fact into and and to counteract the innuendo. Trust me I've fought that stance for 13 years now. It's sometimes so easy to get swayed by the political emotion campaign.

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Kevin_M on Oct 15^th, 2007, 8:56pm

on 10/15/07 at 10:43:01, Brewcrew wrote:

Anybody ever tries to tell me there's more than a dime's worth of difference between the two major parties and I'll smack 'em.

;;D

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by George_J on Oct 15^th, 2007, 8:57pm

on 10/15/07 at 20:46:51, Redd wrote:

I hear you.

All I can say is--read the legislation. You decide whether the original "report" accurately portrays the legislation.

That's all I'll say about it.

Best,

George

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Vanster on Oct 15^th, 2007, 9:06pm

I read the article which, by the way, was not even mentioned in the LA Times. Essentially it banned discrimination against children from gay or non-traditional families. The woman who wrote the commontary let her fantasies run wild-nothing in the law prevents the use of "mom" or "dad" nor allows females into the male toilets and vice versa. That woman needs some serious psychiatric care. :P

Title: Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Post by Charlie on Oct 15^th, 2007, 9:08pm

Exactly Dan.

This has been twisted into an article for a host of far far right blogs in order to build on more fear. It always seems to work with these people. I live next to one that swallows this shit whole most of the time.

WND has little to do with reality. It's big on the good ole' days that never really existed. They are like my neighbor who lives so far in the past that he fears for people that celebrate Halloween. Like the people that run this blog: They want us to be safe..........and bored to death.

Charlie