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Title: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Jonny on Oct 14th, 2007, 5:18pm WTF is wrong with this? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=923_1192377147 Every time I was arrested the cop was doing his job.....and I WAS FUCKING BORN HERE! WTF is it going to take to wake people up that we are slowly being over run? I have grandkids and I will keep posting this.....why are my tax dollars going to pay for illegals?.....Why? Wants some real stories?........here, read all about how illegals are killing Americans that we cant be bothered to kill. http://www.beltwaybull.com/illegal_aliens.htm |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Jonny on Oct 14th, 2007, 5:39pm Three ILLEGAL ALIENS were jailed in mid September, in a brazen sexual assault of an uncon-scious woman in Fairview. It was an outdoor attack that was interrupted by law officers, authorities said. Police reported them, all ILLEGAL ALIENS from Guatemala, to Immigration and Customs Enforcement. http://www.beltwaybull.com/images/rapist_1.jpg Am I the only one that gives a fuck? |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by jimmers on Oct 14th, 2007, 5:47pm I wonder if the liberals read any of this shit. Maybe when its their Daughter or Son that gets raped or killed (By someone who shouldn't be here), they will take notice. Something gotta give, and I'm sure it will be our wallets. >:( |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 14th, 2007, 6:06pm Jonny, if we deport illegal aliens that commit crimes, we may end up hurting their feelings. C'mon, man. Have a heart. |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Jonny on Oct 14th, 2007, 6:11pm on 10/14/07 at 18:06:12, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
I think this is the third time you made me laugh, B.....LOL ;;D |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Maffumatt on Oct 14th, 2007, 6:39pm interesting..........and a shame. |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by MR_FLOOR on Oct 14th, 2007, 7:19pm Give them our jobs ,give them our tax dollars,hell why not build apartment complexes on our side of the border so they can freshen up before they make there journey inland. Dave |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Charlie on Oct 15th, 2007, 1:33am Quote:
I do and I'm pissed off at the whole thing. I'm with Lou Dobbs. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Yorky on Oct 15th, 2007, 8:13am you should all learn to live together..... ...........LIKE WE DO.......... http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l62/yorky_2006/policeES1807_468x3691.jpg |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Vanster on Oct 15th, 2007, 9:57pm When an illegal alien is convicted of a crime, he or she will serve out their sentences in a US prison and then be deported to wence they came. Despite what is written in that anti-Hispanic broadsheet, the vast majority of serious crimes in the US are committed by US citizens. Let us at least be honest about this situation. Maybe checking out the facts about who commits crimes and who are serving prison sentences would be a good idea. I doubt that if every illegal (hispanic) alien would be deported and never returned to the US, the crime rate would not be effected. By the way, the crime rate in the US, according to the DOJ, is the lowest that it has been in years. |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Jonny on Oct 15th, 2007, 10:03pm Then I guess you can tell me, Vanster (Or whatever name you have this month) why are 95% of murder warrants in LA are for illegal aliens? |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Vanster on Oct 15th, 2007, 10:19pm on 10/15/07 at 22:03:00, Jonny wrote:
Do you have reliable facts from a government agency to prove that? Most murders are committed by someone related to or friends with the victim. Maybe you should reread your history: it wasn't too long ago that Italians were the "criminals" in the US-Mafia, Wops, Dagos,etc. were blamed for almost everything. Now it is the Mexicans and other Spics, right? Show me an FBI report or Dept. of Justice report that states that our serious crime rate has gone up because of illegal Latin American immigration and then we'll have something to talk about. It wasn't too long ago-and it still continues-that "black persons" caused most of the crime. I wonder who it will be next-of course, the reality is that US born citizens are responsible for the vast majority of crime, both misdemeanors and felonies. As for who I am, I'm just an average guy who doesn't believe everything that he reads and who thinks that Ann Coulter is an anti-Semite and an overall racist (and way to thin). I won't go into my feelings about Rush "Percocet" Windbag. |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Jonny on Oct 15th, 2007, 10:23pm on 10/15/07 at 22:19:40, Vanster wrote:
No, but I do know that DJ will be soon running your ISP# and deleting you......LMMFAO ;;D |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Vanster on Oct 15th, 2007, 10:26pm Thanks for admitting, Mr. J., that you don't know what you are writing about-took courage, of sorts. Goodnight. |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Jonny on Oct 15th, 2007, 10:47pm on 10/15/07 at 22:26:30, Vanster wrote:
You can say that again.....LOL ;;D |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by nani on Oct 15th, 2007, 10:54pm on 10/15/07 at 22:03:00, Jonny wrote:
That's a pretty bold statement with no stats to back it up. I wouldn't mind a link... |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Jonny on Oct 15th, 2007, 11:08pm on 10/15/07 at 22:54:56, nani wrote:
I dont type because I like it, Nani! "• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens. http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 15th, 2007, 11:14pm Here is a link from some website. It says that 17% of the federal prison population are illegal aliens. Only about 4% of the total US population are illegals. http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/27/114208.shtml I dont know if this site is credible or not, but they quote Investors Business Daily, which I consider somewhat credible. |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Jonny on Oct 15th, 2007, 11:20pm Lets get real here! http://colorado.mediamatters.org/items/200702160002 |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Kevin_M on Oct 15th, 2007, 11:41pm on 10/15/07 at 22:54:56, nani wrote:
on 10/15/07 at 22:19:40, Vanster wrote:
It should apply to most statements, like: on 10/15/07 at 21:57:54, Vanster wrote:
What do you mean by crime, it could be deceiving with a rise in murder and violent crime but lowered property crimes. Depends on who you listen to I guess, 0.3 percent rise in murder and a 1.3 percent rise in violent crime could be talked away as lowered crime now with a decrease of 2.9 percent in property crime balancing it lower, if one could consider that balancing it lower. Latest full year FBI stats would be from 2006. Quote:
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front_page/20070605_Phila__leads_big_cities_in_murder_rate.html |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 16th, 2007, 1:02am Thats weird, Kevin. I thought with the meth problem that property crime and robbery has increased significantly. Around here, people have started stealing steel from bridges and fire hydrants to sell to get meth. So much so that the scrap metal industry has had new requirements put in place for buying scrap metal from tweekers. |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Vanster on Oct 16th, 2007, 2:55am on 10/15/07 at 22:03:00, Jonny wrote:
The "magazine" artilcle that you cited said that 95% of all "outstanding" murder warrents in LA are for illegal immigrants. What does that mean? How long have they been outstanding? It sounds as if illegals are smarter than your average bear if they can avoid murder warrents in such numbers, n'est pas? All of this illegal stuff started after WWII when Jewish farmers who escaped Nazi Germany established huge citrus and vegetable farms and bought, at a good price, mind you, slave labor from Latin American governments to work the land, ensuring great profits for themselves and the Elders of Zion. In the near future, when this cabal of rich Jews and rich Protestant Americans get their slaves declared citizens, then the former slaves will vote their masters into power and they won't have to operate in the shadows anymore. Hebrew and Spanish will become the official languages of the US and every question will be answered with a question-why not? Sigmund Freud will take Washington's place on the dollar bill and "If I Was A Rich Man" will become the new national anthem (it does have a catchy tune:))! Oy vay! Such a meshugga I've been! We all better start learning to write from right to left! ::) |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Kevin_M on Oct 16th, 2007, 9:44am on 10/16/07 at 01:02:46, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Bri, Yes, I can remember that seeming to start here about 20 years ago, probably with crack, and continuing to early this century. There would be a lot of individual variation, which shows in the statement about murders. Top ten cities up 6.9% but nationwide an increase of 0.3%. Different places would of course deviate from a national average. Such as: Quote:
One opinion stated about that was: Quote:
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Vanster on Oct 16th, 2007, 11:04am on 10/15/07 at 23:20:08, Jonny wrote:
A good article which shot to hell your statements about outstanding murder warrents in LA, etc. and the illegal immigrant "crime wave" (though "crime ripple" would be more appropriate). Perhaps you should read the articles that you post before you post them (just a suggestion and I am going to start learning to speak Spanish "just in case"). |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Maffumatt on Oct 16th, 2007, 4:12pm How about these facts. http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05337r.pdf Results in Brief—Federal Prisons and Reimbursements How many incarcerated: • Criminal aliens incarcerated increased from about 42,000 at year-end 2001 to about 49,000 at year-end 2004. Country of citizenship: • For 2004, the majority of incarcerated criminal aliens were identified as citizens of Mexico. Costs of incarceration: • We estimate the federal cost of incarcerating criminal aliens totaled about $5.8 billion from 2001 through 2004: • direct federal costs ($4.2 billion) and • federal reimbursements to state and local governments ($1.6 billion). Results in Brief—State Prisons How many incarcerated: • Fiscal year 2002—SCAAP reimbursed all 50 states for incarcerating about 77,000 criminal aliens. • Fiscal year 2003—SCAAP reimbursed 47 states for incarcerating about 74,000 criminal aliens. • 5 state prison systems incarcerated about 80 percent of these criminal aliens in fiscal year 2003—Arizona, California, Florida, New York, and Texas. Country of citizenship: • In mid-2004, most of the foreign-born inmates for the 5 state prison systems with the most criminal aliens were born in Mexico (60 percent). Costs of incarceration: • We estimate that 4 of these 5 states spent a total of $1.6 billion in fiscal years 2002 and 2003 to incarcerate SCAAP criminal aliens and were reimbursed about $233 million through SCAAP. • 5 municipal and county jails incarcerated about 30 percent of these criminal aliens in fiscal year 2003—Los Angeles County, California; New York City, New York; Orange County, California; Harris County, Texas; and, Maricopa County, Arizona. Country of citizenship: • Data on citizenship of criminal aliens reimbursed through SCAAP not available. • In fiscal year 2003, most of the foreign-born inmates from these 5 jails were born in Mexico (65 percent). Costs of incarceration: • We estimate that 4 of these 5 local jails spent a total of $390 million in fiscal years 2002 and 2003 to incarcerate SCAAP criminal aliens and were reimbursed about $73 million through SCAAP. Results in Brief—Local Jails How many incarcerated: • Fiscal year 2002—SCAAP reimbursed 752 local jurisdictions for incarcerating about 138,000 criminal aliens. • Fiscal year 2003—SCAAP reimbursed 698 local jurisdictions for about 147,000 criminal aliens. |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Maffumatt on Oct 16th, 2007, 4:34pm If you want I can post the crime data on those illegals, you know...things like how many women were raped, how many people were murdered by home invasion, killed on the roads by illegal aliens driving drunk, property crimes, insurance hikes due to auto thefts with the cars going to Mexico ect....... I can also post the costs to California's hospitals, schools, welfare, and other infrastructure but I really don't think you'd be interested. The government may not be great on border enforcement, but they are awesome on statistics and record keeping. Just let me know if you want to see the facts. Have a nice day |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Vanster on Oct 16th, 2007, 5:10pm To be fair, post the same statistics for legal immigrants and American citizens and the percentages of those arrested for crimes vs those convicted and sentenced to prison (to simplify things, just do the felonies). |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Maffumatt on Oct 16th, 2007, 5:46pm To be fair? I don't need to be, they are legal aliens and citizens, they are here legally. How about being fair to the families of those killed by illegals and all the other crimes. There are more American citizens killed by illegal aliens each year than soldiers killed in Iraq during the entire war. Guess those people don't count to you. |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Jonny on Oct 16th, 2007, 6:06pm http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53103 This site is Dedicated to all the innocent Americans that have lost their lives to the Foreign illegals on American soil ! These are the ones our Politicians say are looking for jobs, I didn't know killing Americans was part of a job description! http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.html |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Jonny on Oct 16th, 2007, 6:17pm on 10/16/07 at 17:10:46, Vanster wrote:
WTF does that matter, Americans are here legally! What a putz! |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Vanster on Oct 16th, 2007, 6:29pm on 10/16/07 at 18:17:33, Jonny wrote:
So Americans committing crimes are OK because they are citizens, but non citizens committing crimes are not OK because that should be a right for citizens only? Oy vay! Talk about a putz! Did the Moyle make an error during the bris? |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Maffumatt on Oct 16th, 2007, 6:32pm Point is that if the people were NOT here, the crimes would NOT happen. Man you are dense. |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Jonny on Oct 16th, 2007, 6:35pm on 10/16/07 at 18:32:34, Maffumatt wrote:
Laughable dense.....LOL ;;D Edit to add: Van, do you even have CH or are you here to argue? I see NO posts from you about CH.....why is that? |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by George_J on Oct 16th, 2007, 10:10pm on 10/16/07 at 18:35:00, Jonny wrote:
'Cause it's John from up around Scarysue--again? Just a SWAG. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 16th, 2007, 10:56pm This person wants you to show the ratio of American inmates to American citizens and compare that to the ratio of illegal alien inmates to illegal aliens? Fresh out from the Duh Institute: the ratio of illegal alien inmates to illegal aliens is much, MUCH higher than the ratio of American inmates to American citizens. It doesn't get any more obvious, what is your point? |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by assaultme on Oct 16th, 2007, 11:21pm Whether stats are this or that....there is absolutely NO question that we have a problem with illegal immigration. It cost us jobs, Police manpower, strains our already strained health care system and prison system. We have a lot of problems here, this is one of the big ones. It deserves to be dealt with. Dave |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by assaultme on Oct 16th, 2007, 11:24pm I know it's not a perfect world, but there should be NO illegals in our prisons to debate over what percentage either way. Dave |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Jonny on Oct 17th, 2007, 8:59pm http://youtube.com/watch?v=O-pHNmC5bps |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Jonny on Oct 17th, 2007, 10:19pm TB Tainted Mexican Illegally Crossed border 76 Times A Mexican national infected with a highly contagious form of tuberculosis crossed the U.S. border 76 times and took multiple domestic flights in the last year, according to Customs and Border Protection interviews and documents obtained by The Washington Times. The Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agency was warned by health officials on April 16 that the frequent traveler was infected, but it took the Homeland Security officials more than six weeks to issue a May 31 alert to warn its own border inspectors, according to Homeland Security sources who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution. Homeland Security took one more week to tell its own Transportation Security Agency. Multidrug-resistant tuberculosis (MDR) is a highly contagious illness and also resistant to the two most commonly used drugs to treat TB. It is the same dangerous strain of tuberculosis that concerned health officials when Andrew Speaker, a 31-year-old Atlanta lawyer, slipped into the U.S. from Europe via a flight to Canada. A physician with the CDC says that they usually only notify flights that are eight hours or longer that passengers could have potentially been infected. But other physicians say the disease can be transmitted within minutes — especially in persons with lowered immunity — and recommend anyone coming in contact with this contagious illness seek medical attention. The infected man identified as Amado Isidro Armendariz Amaya made at least one more trip across the U.S. border on May 21, where he applied for an I-94 visa to extend his stay in the U.S. Roger Maier, spokesman with El Paso CBP, says the delay for issuing a "be on the lookout" (BOLO) alert to stop the man at the border was caused by the traveler's use of an alias Added: Oc |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Jonny on Oct 17th, 2007, 10:27pm Are you to afraid to post to threads like this? Are you waiting until your child is lying in a hospital bed dying and there is nothing the doctors can do but let your child die? Its time to speak your mind or your kids death is on your hands! I will keep posting this truth until someone gets angry enought to say.... ENOUGH! DAMNIT! |
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Title: Re: Can someone please tell me.... Post by Jonny on Oct 17th, 2007, 11:14pm Suck on this for a while and tell me how it tastes! http://youtube.com/watch?v=MJJuj-rfQVI Thats a professor from NCU......nice, huh? |
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