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Title: Guess who wrote this................. Post by chewy on Oct 12th, 2007, 6:54pm Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions: What would you do? What would you do if you were black? Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer. To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would ret urn to help others in need, as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the like. For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, you'll probably wait for the government to save you. This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men. They would take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of the community. Then local government would come in. No longer. When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city, it was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited for the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good results. Enter Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan. Jackson and Farrakhan laid blame on 'racist' President Bush. Farrakhan actually proposed the idea that the government blew up a levee so as to kill blacks and save whites. The two demanded massive governmental spending to rebuild New Orleans , above and beyond the federal government's proposed $60 billion. Not only that, these two were positioning themselves as the gatekeepers to supervise the dispersion of funds. Perfect: Two of the most dishonest elite blacks in America , 'overseeing' billions of dollars. I wonder where that money will end up. Of course, if these two were really serious about laying blame on government, they should blame the local one. Responsibility to perform legally and practically fell first on the mayor of New Orleans . We are now all familiar with Mayor Ray Nagin the black who likes to yell at President Bush for failing to do Nagin's job. The facts, unfortunately, do not support Nagin's wailing. As the Washington Times puts it, 'recent reports show [Nagin] failed to follow through on his own city's emergency-response plan, which acknowledged that thousands of the city's poorest residents would have no way to evacuate the city.' One wonders how there was 'no way' for these people to evacuate the city. We have photographic evidence telling us otherwise. You've probably seen it by now the photo showing 2,000 parked school buses, unused and underwater. How much planning does it require to put people on a bus and leave town, Mayor Nagin? Instead of doing the obvious, Mayor Nagin (with no positive contribution from Gov. Kathleen Blanco, the other major leader vested with responsibility to address the hurricane disaster) loaded remaining new Orleans residents into the Superdome and the city's convention center. We know how that plan turned out. About five years ago, in a debate before the National Association of Black Journalists, I stated that if whites were to just leave the United States and let blacks run the country, they would turn America into a ghetto within 10 years. The audience, shall we say, disagreed with me strongly. Now I have to disagree with me. I gave blacks too much credit. It took a mere three days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into g hettos, rampant with theft, rape and murder. President Bush is not to blame for the rampant immorality of blacks. Had New Orleans ' black community taken action, most would have been out of harm's way. But most were too lazy, immoral and trifling to do anything productive for themselves. All Americans must tell blacks this truth. It was blacks' moral poverty not their material poverty that cost them dearly in New Orleans . Farrakhan, Jackson, and other race hustlers are to be repudiated for they will only perpetuate this problem by stirring up hatred and applauding moral corruption. New Orleans , to the extent it is to be rebuilt, should be remade into a dependency-free, morally strong city where corruption is opposed and success is applauded. Blacks are obligated to help themselves and not depend on the government to care for them. We are all obligated to tell them so. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Jonny on Oct 12th, 2007, 7:02pm Rev. Jesse Lee? http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images2/jlpeterson2007.jpg |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by chewy on Oct 12th, 2007, 7:10pm Absolutely correct. This man has balls. More than any politician I know of. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/bgull2/Lee.jpg?t=1192230572 The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson is founder and president of BOND, the Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, and author of 'Scam: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America.' |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Jonny on Oct 12th, 2007, 7:15pm I give that dude more credit than most white dudes.....the fucker says it like it is with no BS in between! |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by cosmicfunkfather on Oct 12th, 2007, 7:28pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7GX9Bp1_No&mode=related&search=ps22%20chorus%20p.s.22%20choir%20movin%27%20on%20up%20moving%20jeffersons%20theme%20song%20gospel 8) |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Jonny on Oct 12th, 2007, 7:58pm http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b1f_1192209336 |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Lotus on Oct 12th, 2007, 8:07pm on 10/12/07 at 18:54:27, chewy wrote:
Very interesting point! In your opinion, where does this blacks moral poverty come from and how are they to fix it? |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by chewy on Oct 12th, 2007, 8:11pm cosmicfunkfather. ROFLMAO! Didn't expect that one! Quote:
Not my place to say. I just give the reverand Kudos for saying what he believes and calling out the Sharptons and Jacksons of the world. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Kevin_M on Oct 12th, 2007, 8:22pm on 10/12/07 at 20:07:50, Lotus wrote:
I'd venture jobs because it seems no coincidence that we are the poorest major city and also have the highest murder rate by far after Baltimore being second, it declines a lot. Leading in violent crime too. Murder and violent crime might have something to do with moral poverty. http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front_page/20070605_Phila__leads_big_cities_in_murder_rate.html Among 34 cities with populations greater than 500,000, Philadelphia's murder rate ranked fourth. Detroit, Baltimore and Washington recorded murder rates of 47, 43 and 29 per 100,000 inhabitants last year. Philadelphia also had the fourth-highest rate of violent crime among cities of a half-million or more, behind Detroit, Memphis and Baltimore. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Pinkfloyd on Oct 12th, 2007, 8:32pm on 10/12/07 at 20:07:50, Lotus wrote:
Mighty dangerous thing to do....to ask a couple of white racists how to fix a problem in a black community 1000 miles away. Bobw |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Jonny on Oct 12th, 2007, 8:38pm on 10/12/07 at 20:32:07, Pinkfloyd wrote:
Why dont you name the racists, Bob......no balls? Com'on, back up your post with names. :-* |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by LeLimey on Oct 12th, 2007, 8:42pm on 10/12/07 at 20:38:12, Jonny wrote:
I do believe Al Gore has already been given the No Ball prize Jonny ::) |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Lotus on Oct 12th, 2007, 8:46pm on 10/12/07 at 20:32:07, Pinkfloyd wrote:
Since when is it dangerous to ask my friends of their opinions? |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Lotus on Oct 12th, 2007, 8:50pm on 10/12/07 at 20:22:02, Kevin_M wrote:
Kevin, I think I will add education next to jobs. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Maffumatt on Oct 12th, 2007, 8:53pm on 10/12/07 at 20:07:50, Lotus wrote:
There is enough moral poverty to go around. As a matter of fact the word moral is one of those "avoid" words. The black population doesn't hold a monopoly......... |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Kevin_M on Oct 12th, 2007, 8:54pm on 10/12/07 at 20:50:36, Lotus wrote:
Yes, education in itself and to get jobs. Be glad to have it, Annette! ;) But once again, how to attain these things. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by assaultme on Oct 12th, 2007, 8:55pm Rev J.P. is a good guy. I have exchanged emails with him once...or maybe it was his aides. At any rate, he cares about the community and has a very positive attitude about the potential of people...not the usual negative clap-trap. Cheers, Dave |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by chewy on Oct 12th, 2007, 9:01pm Quote:
He's never had the balls to back anything up. Expect him to grow some now? Another tough guy at the keyboard. LOL He's run back to the basement to toke up with the blacklights and Santana posters. Good place for him. LMAO! |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Pinkfloyd on Oct 12th, 2007, 9:03pm on 10/12/07 at 20:38:12, Jonny wrote:
Heck, I'm sorry. I thought it was obvious. That would be you and Don...or you and chewy if you prefer. :-* Bobw |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by chewy on Oct 12th, 2007, 9:04pm And this folks is what to many hallucinegenics do to you. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Jonny on Oct 12th, 2007, 9:07pm on 10/12/07 at 21:04:51, chewy wrote:
I couldnt have said it better!!....LMMFAO [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by chewy on Oct 12th, 2007, 9:13pm But you probably could have spelled it better than me. Its actually hallucinogenics. Either way. A drugged mush brain is a drugged mush brain. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Jonny on Oct 12th, 2007, 9:24pm on 10/12/07 at 21:13:57, chewy wrote:
Well, I dont think I would go that far....Bob is the godfather of drugs to help people. I just cant get over him attacking a newbie that claimed to be a doctor and he dragged her through the mud.....until she proved she was a real doctor......now thats drug activity. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Kevin_M on Oct 12th, 2007, 9:25pm on 10/12/07 at 21:04:51, chewy wrote:
And you owe us another "o" for too. ;;D Some things NEVER change. OMG, I feel like Margi now, that was her beef. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Pinkfloyd on Oct 12th, 2007, 9:34pm on 10/12/07 at 21:13:57, chewy wrote:
It's actually hallucinogen(s). Hallucinogenic(s) is an adjective. ::) Bobw Yes, I believe education IS the answer. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by chewy on Oct 12th, 2007, 9:45pm You know the old saying "If you have nothing good to say about something then say nothing at all" ? Dear Bob, The end. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Charlie on Oct 12th, 2007, 10:39pm This is a thoroughly unpleasant thread Charlie |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 13th, 2007, 8:49am It's funny how some people are so partisan that they are blind. The evacuation of N.O. was the most successful evacuation of any US city, ever. But because Ray Nagin had negative things to say about the inept federal government, he gets dragged through the mud. Mrs Dumbass Landreau also had negative things to say about how the federal government failed to follow guidelines, and she got dragged through the mud. Mr Vitter helped the least during Katrina and didn't really do much of anything, however, he did not have negative things to say about how the federal government failed to to respond in the pre-described manner which had been done dozens and dozens of times over the last 10 years. He is not dragged through the mud, though. It's yet another example of today's American: buzzwords and bumper-stickers. Most are too dumb to realize it, and then parrot some of the dumbest shit I have ever heard. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by chewy on Oct 13th, 2007, 10:59am Quote:
Wasnt it also the only evacuation of a US city? Evacuated ? How do you explain the Superdome and Convention Center? |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by nani on Oct 13th, 2007, 12:14pm Imagine... a minister asserting that rescue and recovery efforts from a natural disaster were thwarted by the moral poverty of the people involved. Kinda like Falwell's assertion that 9/11 happened because of gays and feminists. ::) There are no easy answers or soundbites to solve the issues surrounding poverty, and the issues that are rampant in our minority communities. It will involve lots of dialogue and a cessation of blame and finger pointing. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 13th, 2007, 12:22pm on 10/13/07 at 10:59:19, chewy wrote:
Areas are evacuated almost every year for hurricanes. Those places have designated places like the Superdome or Convention center or other places where it is thought to be safe. A steel reinforced concrete structure which was built 10 feet higher than the original ground was thought to be a place to get out of immediate danger. In my neck of the woods, we have designated places to go to for a tsunami. Back in the day, we had designated places to go to for nuclear fall out. Of course, a big tsunami could still wash over a hill, and radiation will still affect you if you are in your basement, and the roof of a superstructure might begin to fail at 125mph winds when it was thought to withstand 150mph winds.......but its normal, and there have been designated places to go to for decades. Just cause Ray Nagin spoke negatively about the federal response doesn't mean this US emergency action plan is bad. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 13th, 2007, 12:24pm I dont think it has just to do with poverty. Some people just dont want to leave. What was the name of the dude that stayed at his camp site on Spirit Lake on Mt St Helens? He was told to leave, and he chose not to. Now he is buried under 80 feet of mud. It was not cause he was poverty stricken. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by chewy on Oct 13th, 2007, 12:40pm Quote:
True but not on the scale of New Orleans. Lets face it. Nagin hightailed it out of there and left a good proportion if his flock to fend for themselves. The Super Dome was safe from the elements. Unfortunately the inhabitants were not safe from each other and there was very little infrstructure planning to control and provide for that number of people for an extended time. Thats on Nagin to. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by tanner on Oct 13th, 2007, 1:33pm on 10/13/07 at 12:14:38, nani wrote:
"One of the most horrible features of war is that all the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting." —George Orwell, Homage to Catalonia Hi, nani [smiley=wave.gif] I find your quote to be true on many levels ;) ..... :-* Tim |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Charlie on Oct 13th, 2007, 9:01pm Just to keep things on an even keel: The only way you can give George Bush credit for anything relating to this disaster is to thank him and his ilk for developing the most ineffective Federal agency in history. Aside from the fact that Homeland Security sounds too German for my tastes and that it is about as effective as the DEA, it is run by the biggest gaggle of morons ever to occupy an office in D. C. It needs to be disbanded so all the once effective departments can get back to work. Too bad Rudy wasn't in charge. No matter his politics and many foibles, at least he is competent. Still, George Bush and this cabal in Washington have a lot to be proud of. Haley Barbour, the Governor of Mississippi, is getting along just fine with his disproportionate share of FEMA and other Federal cash. Haley has the right credentials for George & Co. Biloxi gets more help than it needs because it is in a red state. It's not surprising. Omaha, Phoenix and Montana got a significant extra shot of Federal cash to fight terrorism in the southwest and the plains. New York's and California's percentage went down in proportion. George Bush deserves to be impeached for using the Federal Government to punish Blue States. It's exactly what he is doing. The bright side is that this moron has managed to lose even more ground for the GOP in Louisiana...for decades. Bush continues to whittle away at the GOP. He is a horror story for them. The Republican Party now is a place for Puritans and people that raise their hand in debates when asked to do so if you think the jury is still out on evolution and science. Incredible. There is some truth in a lot that's been said but true to neo-con dogma: Blame the victims. I have to say though that I will never understand why people move back to flood plains in the Midwest. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Maffumatt on Oct 13th, 2007, 9:40pm on 10/13/07 at 21:01:59, Charlie wrote:
And the Democratic party is now the place for depravity that mock Christianity yet praise the virtues of all other religions. And their science is only true if it agrees with their own agendas. Incredible indeed. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 13th, 2007, 10:50pm on 10/13/07 at 21:40:33, Maffumatt wrote:
I disagree, Bro. I think the Democratic party is now the place for those that are uncomfortable in their own skin, talk politically correctly while cowering in the corner, and think learning about 'feelings' is more important than getting an education. Thats just my opinion. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Maffumatt on Oct 13th, 2007, 10:52pm that too Brian.....that too |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Kevin_M on Oct 13th, 2007, 11:12pm on 10/12/07 at 20:53:43, Maffumatt wrote:
on 10/13/07 at 21:40:33, Maffumatt wrote:
While using different words here, depravity can mean immorality, which is moral poverty said differently. Between these two statements, are you saying that moral poverty is not well judged as any inclination of race but can be divined more accurately in certain ways by political routes? I am not much politically minded, just saw it as denoting of moral depravity by political disposition and displayed in the agendas of each party. Considering though I am naive politically, I would have only assumed it would be an element of each party but in different ways, just as each party could possibly have moral integrity in different ways depending on the issue, which people can feel strongly about. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Maffumatt on Oct 13th, 2007, 11:27pm If the shoe fits. http://worldnetdaily.com/images2/folsom.jpg http://www.washingtongop.net/images/DemocratChristianHaters.jpg |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Kevin_M on Oct 13th, 2007, 11:30pm on 10/13/07 at 23:27:28, Maffumatt wrote:
;;D I wouldn't know. |
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Title: Re: Guess who wrote this................. Post by Charlie on Oct 15th, 2007, 1:20am quote]And the Democratic party is now the place for depravity that mock Christianity yet praise the virtues of all other religions. And their science is only true if it agrees with their own agendas. Incredible indeed. [/quote] Funniest thing ever posted. Compared to the moral shining stars displayed by the Republicans this year, the Democrats have been behaving like monks. The level of hypocrisy in the GOP is stunning. Today's Democrats are not the party of the wide stance difficulty....and that from one of the biggest gay-bashers in the Senate....not to mention the rubber diaper wearing, New Orleans Congressman, David Vitter, who is a darling of the Christian Right. :o I think I'll stick with Bill Clinton. At least he was pretty "straight" forward." When the GOP goes off the rails, it does so in a spectaclular fashion. Mocking Christianity? It could stand it. If Jesus were to return and see the gang of larcenous criminals preying on the poor, that profess to speak for him, he would never stop vomiting. There is nothing wrong with Christianity so long as it keeps its nose out of our government. No party has more hypocrits than the GOP when it comes to dealing with them. They use the Christian right to get elected and then drop them until the next election. Very little of their political agenda has been realized. It's amazing just niave they have been. The Democrats are not the ones intolerant of other views. The GOP is the party that gets in the way of reason to gather votes from Bible-thumping purveyors of 17th Century thought. Charlie |
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