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(Message started by: lashultz on Oct 10th, 2007, 12:42pm)
Title: Property tax
Post by lashultz on Oct 10th, 2007, 12:42pm
Well I am off to the town boards open book sesion. The friendly assessor was at my house and the bottom line was a 54,000 dollar increase in value. That is a 40% increase. I know they have not re-assessed in quite a few years, but 40% is a big hit.


                                      Lee
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by Karla on Oct 10th, 2007, 12:51pm
Man is that outragious.  I would be doing alot of talking and making some heads roll.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by 2late on Oct 10th, 2007, 12:52pm
4o % is a huge hit, and the problem is there aint much you can do about short of choking the not a very nice person,best of luck to you.
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by Brewcrew on Oct 10th, 2007, 12:53pm

on 10/10/07 at 12:42:06, lashultz wrote:
Well I am off to the town boards open book sesion. The friendly assessor was at my house and the bottom line was a 54,000 dollar increase in value. That is a 40% increase. I know they have not re-assessed in quite a few years, but 40% is a big hit.


                                      Lee

Just another reason that we are seriously contemplating a move out of this state and westward.

Last one out turn out the lights.
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by seasonalboomer on Oct 10th, 2007, 1:00pm
but think about all you get for that money........

:-/
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by BarbaraD on Oct 10th, 2007, 1:08pm
Protest the hell out of it.

Ours was in June -- Got mine lowered about 100K by just being my sweet loveable self. Don't think they want to see me again for a LOOOONG time to come. My taxes were cut in half from last year. For some reason, they just don't like a lot of noise in their quiet little offices.. ;;D

Hugs BD
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by lashultz on Oct 10th, 2007, 2:16pm
I just got back and have to fill out a form as to why I feel the assessment is flawed. My only prayer is that I have a earth berm home that has limited market appeal. One guy in front of me has his house for sale for 449,000 and he was assessed at 446,000. His argument was he would never sell it for that.The guy does't have a leg to stand on.
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by Tiannia on Oct 10th, 2007, 2:26pm
In Vegas they really hit us hard.  The only saving grace was that we got enough people at the Board of COmmissioners meetings  to complain and they passed that if it is your primary residence they can not increase it more then 3% a year.   All the people with rental / investment preperties got a 20% increase.  It was still hard to make those payments and we got a discount because Shuan is a vet.

Good luck.  Go to your County Board meetings.  They will have an open time for people to have questions, you cna speak there and get it read into the record so that it is on the books what they say.   If people dnt make a fuss then things just get swept under the carpet.  Could be that your neighbors are getting hit hard to and dont realize what that means.  
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by vietvet2tours on Oct 10th, 2007, 3:49pm
Taxes on the cabin at Finley Point on Flathead Lake are twenty four thousand bucks a year.
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by artonio7 on Oct 10th, 2007, 4:00pm
Isn't it interesting though how the religious organizations can own soooooooo much property and get away without paying a penny on it?

Perhaps you might consider becoming a ordained minister of the church of Lee and using your home as a cathedral.


with warm regards,
Tony
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by Mosaicwench on Oct 10th, 2007, 4:08pm
Lee - does your community now assess at 80% to 100% of estimated value?

Our community used to assess 60% of estimated market value (with that 40% wiggle room on top for them to raise the assessment if necessary, which is exactly what they did).  We are now assessed at 90% of value . . . but with the housing market down about 12% there is no way we could get what it's assessed at.

Westward ho!!!
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by lorac on Oct 10th, 2007, 4:12pm
you all must be talking about new york state!!!!!

the taxes there drove me out...(and the snow)

                                            Lorac
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by Mosaicwench on Oct 10th, 2007, 5:26pm

on 10/10/07 at 16:12:40, lorac wrote:
you all must be talking about new york state!!!!!

the taxes there drove me out...(and the snow)

                                            Lorac

Nope - Wisconsin - TAX HELL USA

(And the snow gets old but it's better than unrelenting heat in my book.  Besides, we're on the West side of the big lake so we don't get the lake effect like NY does.)
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by zwibbs/Scott on Oct 10th, 2007, 7:19pm

on 10/10/07 at 16:12:40, lorac wrote:
you all must be talking about new york state!!!!!

the taxes there drove me out...(and the snow)

                                            Lorac

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Yes !!!!!!!!!! My Senator !!!! My taxes a year-----grab your o2 tanks-----------------22,000.00-Absolutely ridiculous----2 kids in college-------68,000.00/year----Are you f**king kidding me ?????????????
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by Charlie on Oct 10th, 2007, 8:56pm
What a horrible story.

Everyone in my western NY town is going postal over the latest hikes but to show you the dump I must be living in, my taxes went down $100.

I'm not asking any questions.

Charlie
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by lashultz on Oct 11th, 2007, 1:48am

on 10/10/07 at 16:08:23, Mosaicwench wrote:
Lee - does your community now assess at 80% to 100% of estimated value?

Our community used to assess 60% of estimated market value (with that 40% wiggle room on top for them to raise the assessment if necessary, which is exactly what they did).  We are now assessed at 90% of value . . . but with the housing market down about 12% there is no way we could get what it's assessed at.

Westward ho!!!
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by lashultz on Oct 11th, 2007, 1:50am
Lee - does your community now assess at 80% to 100% of estimated value?

They tax at 100% give or take 10%.


                           Lee
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by nani on Oct 11th, 2007, 2:09am

on 10/10/07 at 12:53:49, Brewcrew wrote:
Just another reason that we are seriously contemplating a move out of this state and westward.


You know... New Mexico does have one major thing going for it (besides the weather)...
...all residents who graduate or get their Equivalency test can go to any state college on a lottery scholarship. If they keep their grades at a 2.5 or better, I think, they can go for 4 years. I figure that may be something you'd want to consider for Roy.
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by fubar on Oct 11th, 2007, 1:38pm
All of you who complain about the taxes need to take a hard look at your political party, their platform, and the voting record of yout representatives.

Bitching about it here is pretty useless.

It f'n amazes me that the people who vote these money hungry, self-serving, tax you from cradle to grave politicians into office are the SAME people who complain about their taxes or what the government *won't* give them for free.

Look at this idiotic SCHIP program... if you want higher taxes for less medical care, this is it.  Every time I see the damn "it's the right thing to do for the children" ads, I want to throw up.

You don't get what you pay for, you get what you VOTE for.

-Fu
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by Kevin_M on Oct 11th, 2007, 1:55pm

on 10/11/07 at 13:38:11, fubar wrote:
You don't get what you pay for, you get what you VOTE for.


That's true.  Last year absorbed a 35% increase due to past elected officials embezzling over 3+ million, and deciding to build a new city hall so the offices are more comfy for taxpayed workers while I work in a cubical and wear a sweater because of a tinch of company heat conserving.
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by Brewcrew on Oct 11th, 2007, 4:52pm
So, if you stop voting, you get to bitch until the cows come home!
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by lashultz on Oct 16th, 2007, 10:14pm
I just got my reply today from the open book session.
Believe it or not  the assessor reduced my value by 22,100. Still a big increase but it will save me money for years to come.
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by Charlie on Oct 16th, 2007, 10:28pm

Quote:
All of you who complain about the taxes need to take a hard look at your political party, their platform, and the voting record of yout representatives


In Jamestown, the consensus it that both parties promise to keep us solvent by raising taxes. It's a puzzlement that the city went from 47,000 years ago to about 32,000.... Everbody moved across from Walmart.

Charlie
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by deltadarlin on Oct 17th, 2007, 8:05am

on 10/11/07 at 13:38:11, fubar wrote:
Look at this idiotic SCHIP program... if you want higher taxes for less medical care, this is it.  Every time I see the damn "it's the right thing to do for the children" ads, I want to throw up.


Actually, the SCHIP program is one of the few programs that I actively will support (not the proposed expansion that Bush vetoed).  There are quite a few *working poor* that cannot afford healthcare.  Then you have all those employers who do not provide the option of getting health care to their employees.

As long as the powers that be don't try to get a huge increase in the SCHIP program, I will continue to support it.

'darlin
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by Paul98 on Oct 17th, 2007, 8:51am
Try a 79.8% increase in one year then 2 years later a 115% increase on top of the first!!!   I bitch about taxes for a reason!  That aside, I know how you feel because anything above infaltion is wrong...period.

It used to be that a property was assesed at the time of sale and rarely reassesed between.  Not any more.  When the towns and countys realized they could get away with almost yearly reassesment they went nuts doing it and they are driving families from their homes.  Don't plan on retiring in your home folks, you woun't be able to keep it!

-P.
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by Paul98 on Oct 17th, 2007, 8:55am

on 10/10/07 at 16:00:09, artonio7 wrote:
Isn't it interesting though how the religious organizations can own soooooooo much property and get away without paying a penny on it?

Perhaps you might consider becoming a ordained minister of the church of Lee and using your home as a cathedral.


with warm regards,
Tony


Good point Tony.....Welcome to Paul's Church Of The Poison Mind.  Sundays sermon will be "the evils of high property taxes" ;;D

-P.
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by Linda_Howell on Oct 17th, 2007, 1:38pm

Quote:
It used to be that a property was assesed at the time of sale and rarely reassesed between.  Not any more.  When the towns and countys realized they could get away with almost yearly reassesment they went nuts doing it and they are driving families from their homes.  Don't plan on retiring in your home folks, you woun't be able to keep it!



 SSsshhhh Paul.  You're talking too loud.  I don't want the powers that be in California to hear that.  My taxes have remained virually the same each year since 1987

 You may want to think about that Bill and Pat.   ;;D  no snow either.  In the winter time I shovel sun.
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by Jimi on Oct 17th, 2007, 2:43pm
I guess living where I live has it's advantages. From what Linda and Jim and Bill and Pat tell me, a $150,000 house here is worth around $300,000 where they live. Plus, out taxes are at 1% so my property tax is $1,500 per year. Of course, now that I have indoor plumbing, that possibly could go up.
Title: Re: Property tax
Post by fubar on Oct 17th, 2007, 2:44pm
Linda,

As long as you stay put, you shouldn't see a big increase.  California, with prop 13, can only reassess a property when it is bought or improved, and in the case of improvements, they can only increase your assessment on the basis of the improvement.  In other words, if you upgrade your 50 yr old kitchen, they can reassess that improvement, but the basis of the house remains the same no matter what. (technocally, tiny increases are allowed every year)

This has created a weird situation in California where properties of the same current value right next door to each other are paying wildly different amounts for property taxes.

But this is a weird state.

In the old days, you could depend on your party (mostly) to follow the principles in the party platform.  No longer.  Dems are tax-and-spend, like always, but Republicans have gone totally off the reservation spending wildly.  Big tax cuts have generated huge increases in tax revenue (let's argue about that) but spending is out of control so it doesn't matter.

The situation in California has given rise to new stealth taxes like Mello-Roos.  Mello-Roos let's a city define a tax district carefully in which the developers get 1 vote per parcel, not one vote per person.  So, the developer who is holding 100's of parcels gets to have an unfair advantage in voting in a new parcel tax that covers specific things like schools or other city projects.  The undeveloped parcels all count as a voter, so by the looks of things, more than 66% of the voters (parcels) are all for a new tax, when not one of the 'voters' even lives in the district!  This new tax does in fact get applied to every parcel in the district, so if you lived there already, welcome to a new property tax increase.

My Mello-Roos tax in Tracy, Ca was an additional $800 per year.

Bottom line is we are all going to die and pay taxes.  Hopefully in that order.

-Fu


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