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(Message started by: B14CK5H33P on Sep 27th, 2007, 6:58pm)
Title: Stupid Expired Question
Post by B14CK5H33P on Sep 27th, 2007, 6:58pm
Just how long is Imitrex good after expiration?

I am out of Frova and Zomig... and my doc didn't even have samples yesterday. So today I did the whole 'stash search' and only found 3 vials, one expired march of 2005.
I have a few nasals expired july 2006.

This is all I have to work with atm, and just wondering how long does this shit actually stay good?  :-/

I thought I was going out of cycle, but the rollercoaster of clusterfuck has sped up.

Peace,
Carl
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by Rosybabe on Sep 27th, 2007, 7:04pm
A Doctor told me once that the only bad effect that a expired med can do to you is not working at all...and some meds can stay active long after the expiration date.

           Good Luck , hope they still work  :)

                                       Rosy.
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by Jonny on Sep 27th, 2007, 7:14pm
I ditto Rosy on that!
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by Kevin_M on Sep 27th, 2007, 7:35pm
Carl, hate to say it but, only one way to find out for yourself.  Perhaps depends on the temperature range they've been kept in.  I've recently used nasal trex expired Oct. 2006.  It may be though that the temp range has not been maintained, I turn the air off while at work and have come home to 82ish or so.  In old age it could be they are affected more easily.
 Knocking it down to a K4 or 5 was no problem in the usual time but there was a persistent lag with the last N/S box with compete aborting.  That may not be due to its resiliency length but possibly other neglecting factors with weather.  

I'd imagine samples from a doctor's office would not be affected by out of range temperature fluctuations, previously I've used doctor samples over expired over two years old successfully.


Let us know please, k Carl?   :)
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by midwestbeth on Sep 27th, 2007, 7:43pm
I've used trex that was 18 months past the exp date and it worked fine for me.

Beth
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by B14CK5H33P on Sep 27th, 2007, 7:49pm
Ahhhhhhhh. The oldest dose worked.

I guess there really IS only one way to find out, either choose a good thrashing or try to stop it.

Peace,
Carl
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by assaultme on Sep 27th, 2007, 7:55pm
Since Carl asked, it made me think of a question for y'all.
And that is: do you keep Imitrex refrigerated like other medicines Insulin etc?


I have just kept mine in the cabinet in a dry cool place.
Thanks in advance.
Regards, Dave
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by Charlie on Sep 27th, 2007, 8:09pm
It's gonna be okay Carl and it will work.

Drugs last a long long time after expiraition dates from my experience.

Goddamn beast.

Charlie
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by Kevin_M on Sep 27th, 2007, 8:21pm

on 09/27/07 at 19:55:14, assaultme wrote:
I have just kept mine in the cabinet in a dry cool place.


Yes Dave for me, full supply in a dark cooler-than-room-temp closet but oldest supply, the next to be used, in dresser drawer in bedroom, a few in nightstand drawer, but many times these are not used for lengths of time.  Only when oxygen aborting persists all night and I've had enough of constant waking from sleep.  Or the one's brought to work daily and the one's constantly with me but not used for quite awhile sometimes, which may affect these oldest dated by temps in the hot summers and cold winters of MI.  Otherwise the rest are safe and always been effective.
 I use oxygen most exclusively these days at home.
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by 2late on Sep 27th, 2007, 8:43pm
I'm workin on a batch of imitrex that expired in 04 works just fine.
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by Ray on Sep 27th, 2007, 8:48pm
I've used past dated injectables and they were fine.  Heat and sunlight would be the worst offenders.


Ray
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by assaultme on Sep 27th, 2007, 9:01pm

on 09/27/07 at 20:21:53, Kevin_M wrote:
Yes Dave for me, full supply in a dark cooler-than-room-temp closet but oldest supply, the next to be used, in dresser drawer in bedroom, a few in nightstand drawer, but many times these are not used for lengths of time.  Only when oxygen aborting persists all night and I've had enough of constant waking from sleep.  Or the one's brought to work daily and the one's constantly with me but not used for quite awhile sometimes, which may affect these oldest dated by temps in the hot summers and cold winters of MI.  Otherwise the rest are safe and always been effective.
 I use oxygen most exclusively these days at home.



Thanks Kevin. Lately I haven't even needed the Imitrex. Have been giving it to my fellow clusterheads. I'm gonna stock up on it just in case my condition changes or my friends cant get the Doc. to prescribe them more. So far, like you, I use the 02 a lot.
Cheers, Dave
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by Kevin_M on Sep 27th, 2007, 9:17pm

on 09/27/07 at 20:48:59, Ray wrote:
Heat and sunlight would be the worst offenders.


I've recently found this to be a factor, otherwise I think the date is only there to move product faster by marketing.  Properly maintained supplies have seemed no problem past an also personally used two year expiration, evidence points to beyond too.  Just take care.
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by Linda_Howell on Sep 27th, 2007, 11:53pm

 Carl,  I just used a NS as well as a jab that were marked ....exp. date  2003   Worked fine.

 No,  I waited at least 4 hrs. between them folks.

Give me your address in a pm Carl.
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by DennisM1045 on Sep 28th, 2007, 7:37am
Hey Dave,

I think you meant


on 09/27/07 at 21:01:03, assaultme wrote:
Thanks Kevin. Lately I haven't even needed the Imitrex. Have been giving it to finding my fellow clusterheads Imitrex and have been giving it back to them. I'm gonna stock up on it just in case my condition changes or my friends cant get the Doc. to prescribe them more. So far, like you, I use the 02 a lot.
Cheers, Dave
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by alienspacebabe on Sep 28th, 2007, 5:45pm

on 09/27/07 at 19:04:02, Rosybabe wrote:
A Doctor told me once that the only bad effect that a expired med can do to you is not working at all...



Some, but very few, meds can be come dangerous after the expiration date - for example, tetracycline. And liquid medicines can increase in potency after the expiration date.

Just FYI....
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by B14CK5H33P on Sep 28th, 2007, 5:48pm

on 09/28/07 at 17:45:38, alienspacebabe wrote:
Some, but very few, meds can be come dangerous after the expiration date - for example, tetracycline. And liquid medicines can increase in potency after the expiration date.

Just FYI....


Well, the Trex hasn't killed me, but having to use it is a real bummer - since now I am getting hit left and right.

I do know that with Verapamil, if you have the greenish-blue ovalish tabs that, if you see cracks down the side of the pill it isn't any good and should be thrown out.
;-)
Title: Re: Stupid Expired Question
Post by assaultme on Sep 28th, 2007, 6:24pm

on 09/28/07 at 07:37:53, DennisM1045 wrote:
Hey Dave,

I think you meant



Yeah Dennis...Kevin was kind enough to pm me and tell me about the incorrect sentence structure there. He's right, I do often get my words all mixed up  ;;D I'll get it together, you guys will keep me in line !!! :-X

Cheers, Dave


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