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Title: What happened to OUCH???? Post by BarbaraD on Sep 25th, 2007, 2:21pm Another thread is about to get into a name calling, free-for all, so I thought I'd start a new thread, so everyone can get their "opinions" out (again) and get it over with (again). As one who actually KNEW lcbob (for those on the BOD today - he was the guy who actually thought up the concept of OUCH), and as one who was in on the beginnings of OUCH, I feel I can say what I darn well please and the devil take the hindmost. What happened to OUCH was that politics got involved as well as personalities. That'll mess up anything. Everyone KNEW best and things got argued to death and not much got done and it was always this one's or that one's fault. If someone actually did something and got credit for it someone else got jealous and the *&&^ would hit the fan. So many people have had such good ideas, but they've gone by the wayside because they were "their" ideas and someone else didn't have them. Then we came to the point that if you "told" your idea it got picked apart to the point that you just didn't want to share it, so things got secretative and that didn't suit anyone either. Right now, I don't even know who's running the organization or have a lot of interest in it anymore. And that's a shame cause no one had more enthusiasm about OUCH than I did at one time (or put as much time and energy into it - not to mention a lot of money). I hear that OUCH is doing great things, but I don't hear much about WHAT it's doing - just bits and pieces. I don't know how much money it has (although I've asked for a financial - even sent money for copies of it) but have not received one (although this is supposed to be public information), so I don't feel like donating to it anymore when I don't know where the money is being spent (and I'm not putting anyone down - I'm sure it's going for something good - I just don't know where). I guess what I'm trying to say is that OUCH was originally set up as a MEMBER organization and today members just don't know what's going on and don't have any say in anything. And that's my dollar's worth (inflation ya know). Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Jimi on Sep 25th, 2007, 4:34pm I never, Never get involved in these discussions about OUCH because everytime something is posted about it, there appears to be some that are just waiting to get their digs in. I have ALWAYS supported the people who made up the board. My thoughts are the same as Guissepe(wait, I know I spelled that wrong).Those that volunteer, with no pay, have my undying appreciation. I DO know whats going on because I sit in on the Board Meeting in Virginia this past summer and I am just a member. I also know how much money they have and I know it's not a lot. But what I did observe is that there may have been political posturing in the past (and I know that there were Barb) geez we both seen it, but what I observed were those that came into the room took their egos and threw them in the corner. They had one thought and it was for OUCH. I came away impressed with the knowledge of all those present and their motives. They certainly appeared to have nothing to hide from me. Heck, I even took their picture. OUCH BOD. Keep your head up. Keep plugging at the projects that you are so close to finally seeing the reward. You and any who come after you, will always have my support. Snip away. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Mosaicwench on Sep 25th, 2007, 4:49pm on 09/25/07 at 16:34:18, Jimi wrote:
I seem to recall hearing a loud "BOOM" when your camera exploded after that . . . . ;;D ;;D ;;D ;) |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Kirk on Sep 25th, 2007, 10:48pm Hi Barb ;;D I'll tell ya the same thing I told ya back then. "Hi Barb. God bless you and all who sail in you". [smiley=smokin.gif] |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by DonnaH on Sep 25th, 2007, 11:17pm I feel that there is no complaint about the people who are in office, but that there is little information about what is in progess. When Barbara and I were on the BOD, everything was public information. Whether right or wrong, people knew just what was going on. Our only problem was that we allowed people to influence or criticize what we were doing. We should have made our decisions, made them known and followed through. Admittedilly, the input was overwhelming and critical. We were not as strong a board as we should have been.......but we were totally open to our members and allowed all input...pro or con. It would be nice if we knew now what was being done, financial reports made available as stipulate in the by-laws and progress reports as they happen without taking away the powers of our elected officials. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by KingOfPain on Sep 26th, 2007, 2:20am The "problem" today with O.U.C.H. is the same as it has been in the past...some people using their time/efforts belittling, nitpicking, & disparaging those that try to make a difference in the organization rather than pitching in to help. You don't like the way things are going with O.U.C.H.? It's time to put up or shut up. Volunteer. Isn't it ironic some of those previous O.U.C.H. BoD members &/or officers are now [& have in the past] questioning everything O.U.C.H. is or is not doing to their standards when they didn't have the character or personal integrity to complete the term they signed up for. Several of the quitters never did the work required while in office &/or were there for self-serving reasons. If more people would complete a term they signed up for instead of being a bunch of quitters...maybe, just maybe the organization would have run [& will run] much smoother. Volunteer & at least stay the course. At least a few have had the integrity to do that. *Understandably, a few have had to leave O.U.C.H. for situations beyond their control...but at least they gave their all [or tried to] while in office. Those few are not the one's to whom I am referring. To those that have served a complete term & are serving now in the O.U.C.H organization...I say thank you. Not everyone is a naysayer as some have shown themselves to be around here. Keep up the good work O.U.C.H. crew. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by chewy on Sep 26th, 2007, 7:41am Quote:
LMAO! Did you conduct a survey? I didn't get mine. Please PM it to me. Leave out the drama. Quote:
I offered. Grant Team. Got no response. After all your thorough research I figuered you'd know that to. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by nani on Sep 26th, 2007, 9:53am on 09/26/07 at 02:20:14, KingOfPain wrote:
Steve, given that you've never served on the BoD, and no one else has access to the private boards... how do you know all this? Rumor? Gossip? Insider info? Just curious... nani |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Brewcrew on Sep 26th, 2007, 9:58am So many self-appointed experts, so little time... |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by chewy on Sep 26th, 2007, 10:22am on 09/26/07 at 09:58:02, Brewcrew wrote:
ROFLMAO! Aint that the truth. I'm going fishing. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Kevin_M on Sep 26th, 2007, 11:35am on 09/26/07 at 02:20:14, KingOfPain wrote:
Steve, if I was new here today and read this as your first statement on the subject, it would seem you are airing a gripe about the OUCH of "today" having people within the organization "using their time/efforts belittling, nitpicking, & disparaging those that try to make a difference in the organization rather than pitching in to help." But because they may complete their term in this manner, you go on to refer to as "integrity". You express differently otherwise. However, if I was new today without knowing anything previous about OUCH, I might be confused as to the direction of the conjecture. If you are talking about the nature of aired OUCH opinions, your's has been one also, remarking of these volunteers, "quitters" from within, "never did the work" and "self-serving" while a part of OUCH. I wouldn't know about any of that but your opinion, as like others, all find themselves in the mix here. :) It seems well that Batch and Wildhaus have taken initiative here for communication from within. |
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Title: 3Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by wildhaus on Sep 26th, 2007, 11:50am I like the dreams of the future better than the history of the past. (I think it was Thomas Jefferson) I am not going to engage in discussion, who did (or didn’t), what, why, and how much! I can only try and learn from the successes of the Past, (and the mistakes). and dream ( and not only dream, but do) about the future…………. Michael |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by purpleydog on Sep 26th, 2007, 11:55am on 09/26/07 at 02:20:14, KingOfPain wrote:
Steve, I also wonder how you came about this information, as the business boards at OUCH are accessible only by the BoD. Also, the meetings are private too. You say several of the quitters never did the work required, or were there for self serving reasons. Who are the quitters? Who never did the required work? Who was there for self serving reasons? How did you come by this info? I'm interested to know. As nani posted: Quote:
Or maybe pillow talk? Let me know, please. I'd like to know how any private info from OUCH got to you. Or who twisted the words to say these things you are apparently quoting. Please, enlighten us. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Tiannia on Sep 26th, 2007, 1:11pm I tired a few times over the years here to be a part of OUCH. To take the time and try to volunteer, and got no response to inquires, so without having the time to hound OUCH to be a part of it, I sat back and figured I was not needed in the workings of it. I know that I do not have the time to attempt to be a part fo the BoD, so I am not dumb enough to put my hat in. Over the years I do spend the time to try and read the OUCH boards, but get little info from them and end up back here beacuse I feel more at home here. Now back to the posts above.... My only thought is, HERE WE GO AGAIN. From a personal standpoint. The problem with OUCH, is nto the organization. The issue is that the very nature fo the beast (pun intended) is that Ch'ers end up as very strong personalities. If we were not, then we would lose the fight against the same beast. So as such, it does not matter what is done in the boards, how well they are doing, how bad they are doing. Each and ever person sees it as a different way then they would do it. And problems start. Even if every memeber of the current BOD is playing nice and they did everything that was required per the by-laws there will be some that find exception to thier work. I will not open this thread again, which is sad because a thread about OUCH here should not be a bitch fest, It should be a simple info summary so that the people who dont have the time to delve thru the OUCH boards can feel a part of it, and if something really triggers with them, then they can go tot he OUCH boards and get more info. I wish everyone who works as a part of OUCh the best. Because of your work, I have learned info that I would have had difficulty finding on my own. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Bob P on Sep 26th, 2007, 1:37pm Quote:
Now I'm confused. I completed 4 terms that I signed up for .... but I did leave one of my BoD terms early. I don't know if I have integrity or not? (I know Chewy doesn't). |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by chewy on Sep 26th, 2007, 1:59pm He was voted out 3 of those 4 terms but we let him stay cause he had the only set of keys to the yacht. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Bob P on Sep 26th, 2007, 2:12pm The heck you say! The one term I left early was when you were in charge. If that ain't a good enough reason, I don't know what is! Beside, you had your own personal yacht (but it sinkded). |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Sandy_C on Sep 26th, 2007, 2:14pm I think OUCH is a great organization, trying to make a difference in our lives by increasing the knowledge and awareness of CH, by trying to be in forefront of educating our medical community as to what CH is and how to treat it, and by being a foundation where we can go for help, and learn about our affliction. I too, submitted my volunteer application, and did not receive a response. I believe this is because, at the time, I was not needed, however, a polite "thanks but no thanks" would have been nice. I have not been disappointed with the information I have received through 0UCH, but can agree that a little more information would also be nice. I think OUCH has kept us fairly well informed through the monthly newsletters, and at the annual conventions. I was not able to attend Richmond, so did not hear any financial information, or successes/failures of grants, research, etc. That is my problem. I wasn't there. But, many of us cannot attend the convention, so I would like to see the newsletter include financial info, where we stand on grants, etc, each month. I also think that CH.com is not the place to air our grievances against OUCH. Not everyone on the CH.com board is a member of OUCH. If you want to ask a question, air a grievance, make a comment to OUCH, there is a way to do this on the OUCH website. This is not the place. I bless the people who have volunteered their creativity, their knowledge, their expertise, and most importantly, their time to the OUCH BOD and committees. Thank you for your good work. Sandy |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Ghost on Sep 26th, 2007, 2:19pm on 09/26/07 at 10:22:33, chewy wrote:
Can I go too! ;;D Doest the new Chewy yacht have foam filled hull? Mike |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Batch on Sep 26th, 2007, 4:41pm Hi Folks, Your friendly O.U.C.H. US Spokesperson a.k.a. "Batch" and also Pete Batcheller here. As I'm still the new guy on the block, I don't know what happened to the offers to volunteer in question, but as all O.U.C.H. Officers and BoD members are lifetime members of the recruiting committee and no offer to volunteer should ever be ignored.... PLEASE SEND YOUR OFFERS TO VOLUNTEER IN SUPPORT OF O.U.C.H. TO ME AT THE FOLLOWING LINK: o2help@ouch-us.org WITH A CC TO MY HOME EMAIL ADDRESS AT: pete.batcheller@verizon.net AND I WILL PERSONALLY MAKE SURE YOU RECEIVE A RECEIPT RESPONSE, AND THAT YOUR OFFER WILL BE SHARED BY ALL O.U.C.H. OFFICERS AND MEMBERS OF THE BOD. With that important public announcement out of the way, if any of you have volunteered to help O.U.C.H. and did not received a reply, please send me a copy of the email or link to the post that you used to make your offer to volunteer. If we've a broken or malfunctioning link in communication that causes important offers like this to become lost, it needs to be fixed tut suite. On the need for O.U.C.H. to be more transparent and forthcoming with more frequent announcements about it's doings... not to worry, the stack of announcements in my incoming queue is growing fearsome, and I suspect there could come a time when one or more will say "enough" but somehow I doubt that will happen... One last observation on something I learned long ago that applies to a few posts on this tread and elsewhere on the boards... Never wrestle with a pig... you both get dirty and the pig likes it... Now mind you, I'm not accusing any of us of being a pig (well... I do eat and drink too much) and a healthy debate on any number of topics can be very stimulating and at times even productive. However, when the barbs start hitting individuals and not the ideas under debate... chaos theory and the law of unintended consequence come into play. At that point, all the fun and excitement is lost and the whole thing becomes a turn-off and slippery slope. If saying this makes me out to be a Bull-Goose Loony, and I don't think I am (save for making comments about socialist liberal politics and its politicians - I know I'm clearly guilty here), I'll offer my closing thoughts... I've been shit at, shot at, and hit by folks with far more skill and determination to take me down than anything I've seen here on the boards. So if any of you perceive I've crossed over the line and offended you... please let me know... and if you feel so inclined, take your best shot. After all, I am your friendly O.U.C.H. US spokesperson and I keep my Klingon Deflector fully charged and the "good idea" filter fully open... In the mean time, lets all lighten up and do the things we do best as cluster headache sufferers and supporters... and that is love and care for each other while joined in a common battle against the beast... after all, no matter who or what we are, none of us are getting out of here alive... So lets enjoy each other for what we are and all the wonderful PF time we can share with one another. Take Care, V/R, Batch a.k.a. your friendly O.U.C.H. US O2 Pusher |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by BarbaraD on Sep 26th, 2007, 4:43pm on 09/26/07 at 14:19:31, Ghost wrote:
Nope -- that's just his blow up toys..... ;;D |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Ree on Sep 26th, 2007, 5:07pm What we need is someone who won't fall victim to the nit pickers and take control... just my two cents... I wanted to volunteer one year and that year they only wanted people with CH to volunteer... I lost interest when I watched all the fighting on OUCH... and never understood any of it. I don't even know what is going on there now and can't decipher any of it anyway. Not for your every day reader. I don't even go there anymore. it seems like a great idea... just cant get anyone to agree on any thing ... ree |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Jimi on Sep 26th, 2007, 5:22pm Pete.....great commentary, diction, and well thought out response. I am glad you are a part of OUCH. Good luck with the wrestling of the pigs. They love the dirt and the slinging of mud. So folks who submitted resumes in years past and have a new inkling to pick the oar back up, it appears all is ready and a response will be given. Forget the past, try again. Modified to add................but you better have a thick skin and focused on the product. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Linda_Howell on Sep 26th, 2007, 5:30pm http://bestsmileys.com/cheering/7.gif Here-Here Pete. Very well said. !!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by alienspacebabe on Sep 26th, 2007, 5:34pm on 09/26/07 at 17:22:06, Jimi wrote:
Ah. I've got brains, initiative, creativity, excellent problem-solving skills. I'd definitely be an asset to OUCH. Unfortunately (as most of you already know), I'm far from thick-skinned, embarrassing as it is to admit. (but it's not in the least embarrassing for me to be thin-skinned - it's part of what makes me a compassionate, loving person). just my 2cents.... Lizzie |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Jonny on Sep 26th, 2007, 5:40pm I love the new guy on the block!...... :-* :-* :-* |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Kevin_M on Sep 26th, 2007, 5:42pm on 09/26/07 at 16:41:24, Batch wrote:
Well damn, I was going to say there's a spot on your tie and your shoelaces are undone but... I really have nothing to say now. on 09/26/07 at 17:30:48, Linda_Howell wrote:
;) ummm, I didn't include your cheerleader, Linda. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Lotus on Sep 26th, 2007, 6:37pm I had intended to never speak out about my experience with OUCH but seeing how this is an opportunity to share so that things might get improved I will. Last year soon after I joined Ch.com I also joined OUCH US and volunteered. No response, so I figured I was not needed. Later when I started to learn about oxygen and the effectiveness aborting CH I wanted to learn all I could about it and started my own research. I talked to anyone and everyone who were knowledgable about it including Jonny, Pete and Chuck. Then I thought of doing a video teaching people how to use oxygen properly. I spoke to Pete and Jonny at length about that. Michael ( Wildhaus ) contacted me saying that he and Pete and Ben were going to write and publish the oxygen paper and invited me to help. At OUCH request, I sent off all info of my medical qualifications to Donna. We then joined forces to produce this paper. At the end of it, I told Michael and Pete that there was no need to include my name in the paper as at that time I was being attacked by Pink Floyd and many people here had doubt whether or not I am really a doctor. I didnt want my name to cause problems for OUCH. Michael assured me that there was no such problem and so my name was added. At that time, I was told I was part of the Oxygen Team. Michael and Pete asked me to prepare an online survey to get data on how people use oxygen and their experiences. I spent some time doing it and submitted it and was told that it was very good. The last I heard about this was several months ago that the webmaster was trying to figure out how to get it live on the OUCH website, since then I heard no more. Once the Oxygen info was added to the OUCH site, I was asked by Michael and Pete ( on behalf of OUCH ) to be on the panel answering questions about oxygen and to help minding the chatroom on Oxygen. I was also told that Donna wanted me to join the medical board within OUCH. I was happy to say yes to all requests. Pete again took all my personal info to submit to OUCH so that I could be "signed in". However, soon after I ran into some personal conflicts with a couple of people here on Ch.com, all of them were current members or past members of OUCH, and changed my user name to Lotus. It again was about whether or not I am really a doctor ! From then on I heard nothing more about any of the above. I waited for a while then I asked Pete about it. He told me that Donna was not available and all the informations were forwarded to Helen who was acting as President and that he did not know what was going on either. I PMed Helen a few times and never got any reply from her. That was the last I had heard from OUCH. I did not want to ask Pete or Michael any more about it because I didnt want to bother them. They have enough on their plates. Having worked with Michael and Pete, I can vouch for both of them that they are the most dedicated and most hard working people I have ever met. OUCH is very very lucky to have them. The same goes for Tony. However, I cant say much for the rest of OUCH BoD. I never wanted any "position" or "fame" or anything of sorts, I am quite happy to donate whatever time and work I could anonymously. But I have to say that the way my case was handled by OUCH, is less than professional. I am posting this not because I wanted to stir troubles, but I hope that whoever is/are running OUCH take a serious look at how the organisation is being conducted, so that it can be improved, especially when it comes to volunteers and their work. Annette |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by LeLimey on Sep 26th, 2007, 6:56pm on 09/26/07 at 18:37:13, Lotus wrote:
ONE. I have not at any time been acting president of OUCH. TWO. You have not pm'ed me as Lotus or emailed me ONCE since you deleted yourself after that fracas when you were posting about should you stay or should you go and I commented on the alumni board that stuff from up there should not be brought to the general board. For the rest of you - if you spent as much time working FOR people with CH as you do obstructing those who fucking well try then we might have FUCKING well got somewhere. I hope you're all FUCKING proud. You make me sick. I have spent hours and hours of my life, more than I dare count on OUCH. I have cried over not being able to do enough. I'll never be able to do enough and nor will anyone who ever serves on any BOD now or in the future. I'm sick of all this, I'm sick to the eyeballs. I'm hurt beyond belief and I'm out of here. Find someone else to stick the knife into, my back is gone. Helen |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Jonny on Sep 26th, 2007, 7:01pm http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/images/smilies/Props/munch.gif |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Bob P on Sep 26th, 2007, 7:12pm I can't speak for why current volunteers aren't used but I do know that during my term(s), we had more volunteers than we knew what to do with. I'm not saying there were a lot of volunteers, I'm saying we lacked ideas of what to do with them. It may help if volunteers asked first what Teams, ideas, Task Forces were in the works and then volunteered for a particular job. It may help if OUCH posted what they needed volunteers for, specifically, rather than just saying 'volunteer'. All of this may already be happening and I'm just too dumb to know it! Who knows. My hats off to those who throw barbs (she's nowhere near as tiny as Linda). |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Lotus on Sep 26th, 2007, 7:21pm on 09/26/07 at 18:56:01, LeLimey wrote:
Firstly many people here including myself were concerned about your health Helen when we were told that you were acting President or at least doing the work of the President for OUCH while you were very unwell. I am sure I am not the only one with that impression. Secondly, no I didnt PM you under the name Lotus because I had given up by then. You were swearing and upset and "ordered" me not to post things from the Alumini Board to the General Board, even when this is DeeJ's Board and he had not made such a rule. I did delete the whole post very quickly though as soon as I thought about the problem it could cause. However, prior to that, I had sent you emails and messages without ever got a reply from you. Please do not say to me that I havent done anything but obstructing OUCH's work. From beginning to now I have wished nothing more than donating my time and work for the benefit of others here. I did so anynomously for a long time. I never asked for or wanted anything in return. It was OUCH for whatever reason denying the offer. I have no doubt that you have done MUCH for Ch.com and OUCH and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for that. I have always treated you with respect therefore I request that you refrain yourself from swearing when speaking to me. I hope that we can discuss things as grown up adults. You say your main interest is to serve CHers. That is also mine. Why cant you put aside personal differences to do that? Sincerely, Annette |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Peppermint on Sep 26th, 2007, 7:41pm on 09/26/07 at 18:37:13, Lotus wrote:
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Kevin_M on Sep 26th, 2007, 7:51pm on 09/26/07 at 19:12:42, Bob P wrote:
Well Bob, a message in a bottle will be sent on a current some whales use, the green crayon was missing though. Hoping to reach your atoll 2008 or so. It's best this way rather than sending Chewy to deliver, the Coast Guard has a tether on his boat, only 300 yards from shore, that's it, and must have permission slip. Be checking the lagoon around the yacht. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by chewy on Sep 26th, 2007, 8:21pm on 09/26/07 at 16:43:43, BarbaraD wrote:
Those babies are double hull with a commercial bilge pump. And Bpb. It didn't sinkded. It sunkded. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Jonny on Sep 26th, 2007, 8:30pm on 09/26/07 at 20:21:13, chewy wrote:
I can back that up, I was with him when he got the call that it was sinkeding! |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Kevin_M on Sep 26th, 2007, 8:40pm on 09/26/07 at 20:30:30, Jonny wrote:
Yeah but remembering where he parked was another thing. http://www.commercialsihate.com/superbowl/40/images/tacoma.jpg |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by chewy on Sep 26th, 2007, 8:48pm We were already parked. In a wafting field of clove on a warm summers eve watching the gentle setting of the sun. Jonny. I miss you. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Kevin_M on Sep 26th, 2007, 8:53pm rolling in clover LMAO. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Brewcrew on Sep 26th, 2007, 8:53pm on 09/26/07 at 20:48:12, chewy wrote:
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Kevin_M on Sep 26th, 2007, 9:02pm It's a staple crop grown by neighbors downwind of Chewy. Summer's gone, buying a new refrigerator can be put on hold with the winter months coming now. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Jonny on Sep 26th, 2007, 9:07pm You can ask Bob G, we parked to go meet him and Chewys boat was sinking........he did not bat an eye about it. Chewy said "lets have seafood".....LOL ;;D |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Kevin_M on Sep 26th, 2007, 9:26pm on 09/26/07 at 21:07:20, Jonny wrote:
Acted like it wasn't the first time, ey? ;;D How often could meeting Bob happen. Besides, with fishing season down the drain, never too soon to start having to buy fresh seafood now. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Batch on Sep 27th, 2007, 12:09pm Oh kind and gentle people of O.U.C.H. US and CH.com, what have I wrought? My attempts to oil the troubled waters with the assistance and support of many to bring calm to a rather messy thread have served to ignite a mother of all flashback fires of near biblical proportions. Sadly… this was neither intended nor hoped for. As I sincerely hope this too shall pass with time and we can once again move forward arm in arm to accomplish the O.U.C.H. mission and bring its vision to reality, I’m reminded of the newly graduated architect, who set out with the best of intentions to design and build a replica of the Sistine Chapel only to end up erecting a fornacatorium. I say this with no malice, forethought, or disrespect, but rather to contrast the cathartic barbs in this thread on one hand, with all the good each of you do on a daily basis on the other. With respect to the embroglio presently ensnaring Helen and Annette… Ladies… Please Cease Fire! Cease Fire! Cease Fire! After you’ve read my following explanation of how all this came about, you can shift your aim points from each other to my shiny pate and fire when ready if you feel so inclined. After carefully perusing my email in and out boxes and Skype logs containing hundreds of exchanges between Annette and me coordinating the drafts of the Supplemental User’s Guide and O2 Questionnaire, it’s become painfully clear that it is I who am responsible for the present case of friendly fire, and that it was clearly caused by a breakdown in communication on my part. I did receive the needed information from Annette that would have enabled Gator to add her to the distribution of questions and comments from the O2 User’s Support Team portal. It is also clear from the email and Skype exchanges between us at that point, that I was obviously confused over Annette’s name change on ch.com, her ouch name, and that both of us were confused on how to use ouch mail. Accordingly, I sent an email to Annette in an attempt to clarify the situation so I could bring up adding her to the O2 User’s Support Team portal during the June 07 BoD meeting. Here’s where the law of unintended consequence, poor housekeeping in my email address book, and my failure to follow up, all combined to jumped up and bite me. I have three addresses for Annette in my email address book. Two that were added automatically in earlier replies and one that I phat phingered in by hand incorrectly. As chance would have it, I clicked on the bogus address and failed to notice that my email to Annette had bounced, and that she never received my message. When I received no reply from Annette, I assumed the terrible mauling she’d receive in successive flame wars had taken their toll, so did not bring up her role on the O2 User’s Support Team to the other board members. The rest is history. As Walt Kelly would have said “I have met the enemy… and he is me. I love the two of you dearly and would never knowingly say or do anything to cause you grief. On top of that, O.U.C.H. US needs you both operating at full capacity more than ever, so please let me offer a short story in the hopes of healing the wounds my failures inflicted. The Batcheller clan gathers at the family’s summer home on Mattapoisett Neck, MA near the Southern shore of Cape Cod on Buzzards Bay for one week each year to renew family bonds and share our family heritage. At the completion of the evening meal we would all retire to the screen porch and engage in discussions, sip an aged cordial, box wine, or bottled beer well into the wee hours. http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m236/petebatch/Mattapoisett_EdnAnn.jpg There’s a carved plaque on the inside wall of the of the porch bearing an inscribed phrase often used by my great grandfather Commander Oliver A. Batcheller, the great grand son of Elder Brewster, in quelling family disputes. Elder Brewster was one of the Pilgrims that stepped from the Mayflower onto Plymouth Rock. The plaque has hung on that wall in the screen porch for over 80 years for all to read and heed… In essence it proclaims that no matter how spirited the conversation or how heated the debate on whatever the topic, the evening will always end with a hug and a kiss. http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m236/petebatch/Affability.jpg Please take care and give me a chance to make things better. V/R, Batch |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by BarbaraD on Sep 27th, 2007, 5:50pm Goodness -- I think we need Batch in the Mideast right now!!! Great post Batch... hope everyone was paying attention. Chewy -- go get Tucker -- he just went for the neighbor's hot dogs (again!) ;;D Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Guiseppi on Sep 27th, 2007, 6:07pm The Mideast?????? Hell, I'd follow Batch into hell!!! I wish I had your gift of eloqunce sir, thou waxeth poetic with the best of them! Very well said. Guiseppi |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Bob P on Sep 27th, 2007, 6:33pm I bet he's really evil inside. I mean dark, black hearted evil! I used to be well practiced in this same MO that Batch is using. Lull them to sleep with sweet talk, them smack 'em in the back of the head with a 2 by. |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Guiseppi on Sep 27th, 2007, 6:37pm [i]Lull them to sleep with sweet talk, them smack 'em in the back of the head with a 2 by. [/i] Hell that's standard MO in our business...only I use a sap! ;;D My daddy told me, "treat every man you meet with the same dignity and respect you'd afford your mother.....and have a back up plan to kill them!" Guiseppi |
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Title: Re: What happened to OUCH???? Post by Not4Hire on Sep 27th, 2007, 6:54pm dang. I seem to have lost my dinasaurus... uh, thinganary ... whutza-nuther-word-asaur... aw, fuckit, you know. That deal that tells ya how to spell words ya can't spell... or define. Pete, yer a GOODGUY. Keep it up. Affably, notfer |
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