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(Message started by: UN solved on Sep 11^th, 2007, 6:45pm)

Title: Metal Heads Only !!
Post by UN solved on Sep 11^th, 2007, 6:45pm

Thought you may like this Jonny ... (?) I've just discovered them.

Check out : Five Finger Death Punch - The Bleeding

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHME5_qP3SE

Whatchya think ?

UNsolved [smiley=headbanger.gif]

Title: Re: Metal Heads Only !!
Post by Jonny on Sep 11^th, 2007, 7:42pm

Thats sweet, Mike!! [smiley=headbanger.gif]

I love these dudes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fX6hV1kuWg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2ROdiXi2BU

Title: Re: Metal Heads Only !!
Post by assaultme on Sep 11^th, 2007, 8:15pm

The pedals on the 16th note double bass fill looked like Iron Cobra Tamas like mine, but it went too fast to be sure.

Yeah, I liked it.
Ever hear of Cradle of Filth?

Type O was good too Jonny. I liked the short fill finished off with a flam (both sticks hit, but slightly apart in time) on the snare. It sounds really clean that way.

Dave

Title: Re: Metal Heads Only !!
Post by Jonny on Sep 11^th, 2007, 8:55pm

What do ya think of this dude, Dave?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jBnK7fC4yj0

Title: Re: Metal Heads Only !!
Post by assaultme on Sep 11^th, 2007, 9:42pm

Oh man !!! I've seen Portnoy several times on film & CD. Dream Theatre is awesome. Mike does stuff that is...well...outrageous !!!

He has this kit he calls something like the monster or whatever. It is like 3 or 4 drum kits all kinda lined up. He moves around playing everything. Will blow you away!!

What Mike does takes many, many years of solid dedication.

Sure there are prodigy's, out there.
But it takes years of practice. to get where he is at.

Portnoy has something that many so called "fast" drummers do not posses. That is technical accuracy.
See, even a schmuck like me can learn a 16th note double bass groove and play a paradiddle (r, l , rr-- l, r, ll) over the top of it.
Looks kool, but really isn't anything but fluff. But having the technique and even some of his own original stuff is what separates people like him from the rest.
Check out the thing he does on the bells. Much like Neil Peart of Rush. Plays a fast and accurate double bass groove and plays a pattern on top of it on the bells. Kinda Chinese sounding eh? read: Train to Bangkok

Neil Peart does a solo called "Darkness & Light" saw it live in 78, 79 & 80. Does the bell thing in a similar way. It's 6 minutes of excellence !!!

Yeah, he's right up there !!!!
Cheers, Dave

Title: Re: Metal Heads Only !!
Post by Jonny on Sep 11^th, 2007, 9:52pm

on 09/11/07 at 21:42:58, assaultme wrote:

He has this kit he calls something like the monster or whatever.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=M7TWDNqSeFE

Title: Re: Metal Heads Only !!
Post by assaultme on Sep 11^th, 2007, 10:12pm

Exactly Jonny. Look at the way he approaches a simple 8th note groove. Instead of playing straight 8ths on the ride cymbal, he changes it up and leaves notes out in alternating measures. "rests" as they are called give a subtle texture to the groove.

I try to work on these myself as much as possible.
A simple example of swung ostenatos (ones with rests ) is "Smoke from a distant fire" by Sanford Townsend band.
It gives such texture and a "jazz" feel to the melody of the tune.

Another interesting groove is the shuffle.
John Bonham of Zeppelin is (was) a master of it.
"Fool in the Rain" has a kickass shuffle. If that tune was played straight notes, it would be boring....just another reason Bonham was a drum God !!!! Not to mention the fact that he made up grooves that no one ever thought of.

Cheers, Dave

Title: Re: Metal Heads Only !!
Post by assaultme on Sep 11^th, 2007, 10:31pm

Another of his kits. He plays Tama drums too. http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee223/assaultu2/MikePortnoyDreamTheater_hiskitInher.jpg

Title: Re: Metal Heads Only !!
Post by Saffy on Sep 12^th, 2007, 3:54am

:( [smiley=huh.gif] :-/ :'(

Oh well serves me right I suppose I took the speakers off the damn thing to stop the daughter wasting so much time and now I can't sneak a little listen when I want to can I!!! Ggrrr

Its probably a bit tooo heavy for me anyways.

Saffy

Title: Re: Metal Heads Only !!
Post by ski2k on Sep 12^th, 2007, 4:46am

Nice pick. I like it, UN.... Kinda reminds me of Vermillion (Slipknot).
Type O has been a fav of mine for a long time too, Jonny. Here's (one of) my fav's from them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ntvORezIQ4&mode=related&search=

Kickass drummer too... Him I'm not familiar with. The second one you (Jonny) posted of him sounded a LOT like Dream Theatre (to me).

Guess I'm lucky to have a good radio station around here. They'll play everything from Led Zep to Pantera, and then some...

Keep 'em comin. I'm always lookin' for shit I ain't heard yet...

Adam

Title: Re: Metal Heads Only !!
Post by Saffy on Sep 12^th, 2007, 10:57am

Still can't listen but enjoyed looking at other poeples kits especially ^ that one wow!!! shiny hardware ;;D

Must go polish mine.

Saffy

Title: Re: Metal Heads Only !!
Post by clusterwife on Sep 12^th, 2007, 12:42pm

Sounds like the local band here called Pull-Back-Fully. Rock On!!!!